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Anibal Sanchez and Alex Avila both to the 15 day DL.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 07:25 AM) Back to Trayce, He is having a good enough year that the Sox will have to add him the the 40 man roster in the off season, or he will get picked up by some team. It's about the normal time for that for him anyway right? Gives him a shot at earning a callup in the middle of next season if he keeps it up and I'd be ok with that schedule.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 08:26 AM) A couple right-handed guys with losing records will pitch. It will be on WCIU--remember when people used to complain about games being on WCIU? Still hate WCIU. Will likely hear some of Bert tonight.

QUOTE (TRU @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 10:27 PM) This is going to be unpopular and will never happen, but.. I would offer Chris Sale to the Rangers for Olt and Profar.. Not a chance in Hell.

“@CST_soxvan: Peavy to have MRI soon, perhaps near end of road trip, to make sure displaced rib fracture is healing properly.” “@MDGonzales: Peavy says he hasn't been cleared for conditioning yet, hopes to ride stationary bike soon. Could get MRI within a week.” “@scottmerkin: Peavy used the verbs "boat-raced" and "ham-and-egged" in the same interview today. Highly impressive” “@scottmerkin: Peavy: "You could almost swallow these beatings if you just showed up and got boat-raced every night ...” “@scottmerkin: .... or if you didn’t have good pitching or you didn’t have this or that."” “@scottmerkin: Boat raced: To be beaten very badly at something, especially in such a fashion that you were behind from the start and never had a chance.” “@scottmerkin: That definition courtesy of http://urbandictionary.com ~” “@scottmerkin: Ham and Egger, courtesy of UD: Not possessing many spectacular qualities.” I feel like I just learned a lot about the Sox beat writers.

“@KnightsBaseball: Morel's single in the 1st gives him 59 hits on the season, passing Josh Phegley for the team lead. However, Morel was stranded on 2nd. 0-0.”

“@MDGonzales: Double-A Birmingham OF Trayce Thompson named Southern League Hitter of the Week for 6/10-16.Thompson batted .435 (10-23) with 3 HR, 9 RBIs”

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 06:12 PM) Why does it matter if they deal with the Tigers? As long as it's not Sale, I don't think there's anyone we'd be trading to them that would haunt us for a long time. With that said, Tigers have very little in their farm system to trade us. Sending Rios or Peavy to the Tigers might not be the best idea in the world since they're under contract for a while. Ditto anyone like Reed who would be unexpected.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 03:55 PM) are they big on mid-season promotions though? I don't really remember that. Playoffs, yes. Start of season, yes. Midseason? IIRC they emptied Birmingham of everyone I wanted to see right around the AS break last year so I got a very depleted 2nd half roster.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 04:00 PM) I don't see Alejandro having much value right now. Rios is the chip without a doubt. Alejandro is on fire with the bats lately, that will help somewhat if he keeps that up. Another good month before the AS break and teams could be looking at him putting up similar WAR this year to what he did last year despite worse defense.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 03:54 PM) I agree with most of what you wrote in that post up until this part... Do you know that your closer to having some of these answers? Or are you simply being bombarded with so much additional information, some of which may not be correct, or in proper context, that you're more confused now than ever before? I'm betting that some of what Snowden is saying is factual...annnnnd I'm betting that some of it's stretching the truth, at best. If people had an attention span, I may have a different opinion on this matter...but I know how people are. And in a few months, when this is long forgotten, and people are okay with being spied on (you're already see this), none of this will matter. Yes, I'd say I'm closer to having those answers...because people are acting positively based on his words. Even if he's overstepped reality on several issues, Google and Facebook now have to deal with the fact that they want to be international companies based in a country that has access to their entire network if it wants it. The rest of the world isn't going to sit around and let their citizens be monitored without taking some sort of action or at least trying to get public guarantees. And Google et al. won't want their business undermined, so they'll want to bring forwards more information about what they actually turn over. On top of that, there are the occasional senator who will keep focus on this (Merkey in Oregon comes to mind in particular), and finally...he's probably not the only person who works for one of these contractors who doesn't feel right about what he's doing, and that's going to continue dragging this program into the light. I read this somewhere about the drone strikes but I think it applies here too. If every terrorist knows that the NSA is out there spying on their communications and taking steps to protect their data, as you say...then who is the secrecy aimed at? If this leak hasn't told a terrorist anything useful...and I'm not sure it has...then this secrecy is to protect the program from us. It's not to protect the program's effectiveness, it's to protect it from evaluation. There was no reason for the U.S. government to deny that drone strikes happened for years. It's not like an Al Qaeda militant couldn't see the crater in the ground. Those denials were to try to protect the program from being evaluated by the people, and the secrecy here seems similar to me. That, perhaps, is what troubles me the most.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 03:45 PM) I doubt they move Erik Johnson to AAA. They've historically not been afraid to call up pitchers straight from AA and I believe if we see him in Chicago that's where he'll come up from. Also, Thompson should spend the whole year in AA. He's just 22. No need to rush him, especially since he hasn't exactly been tearing the cover off the ball (although he has played very well in the last month). I'd like to agree with you, but this is the White Sox we're talking about. No matter how many times I think they should give a guy an entire year at a level, they push him upwards aggressively.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 03:35 PM) I'm probably being a bit harsher than necessary, but seriously...did anyone here not already know this was going on? I'd use the word assume, but it doesn't seem proper to use post Patriot Act. I assumed the NSA spied on citizens BEFORE the Patriot Act, after they legalized it, I knew. Otherwise they wouldn't have made it legal. I just find it extremely arrogant and hypocritical that a person that actively spied, suddenly turned over a new leaf to "save the people from the evil government", and now he's saying companies like Apple should risk everything and deny court orders, despite the existence of the Patriot Act...because they're so big...they should be able too! Like I said, it seems a bit presumptuous. Apple's legal team alone is probably so massive that I'm sure they looked into every caviot of these court orders, and if they thought they could get away with fighting it, they would have. But I'm betting the Patriot Act (multiple times revised) is pretty bullet proof. Here's another of my problems...I don't know exactly what I knew. I knew that the Bush administration started vacuuming up enormous amounts of data in an illegal fashion prior to 2006, and that much of that was then legalized (with, I note, Obama voting for it), but I don't know that I knew what was legalized. I knew the NSA had grown, but I really didn't know how big the web of contractors had gotten. I knew they were sifting through data, but I had no idea they were building a data storage center out West that will make Google look small. I didn't know there was such a thing as a "yottabyte". I've learned some stuff about what they're actually doing thanks to this leak in particular, but I'm not sure what I've learned...I don't have the information to put it into context, and perhaps that continues to be what's troubling me the most. I can't make a judgment about whether or not the program is appropriate because I don't know its extent. I can't judge whether or not the program is appropriate because I don't know what the safeguards are. I don't know what would happen if something was done wrong (here's a report on the NSA listening in on phone sex from 2009). Perhaps most troublesome, I can't evaluate whether it's a good use of skills and money or not. Maybe it has thwarted a dozen 9/11 style attacks. Maybe it prevented a Boston bombing. Maybe if we took the $10-$20 billion its spending per year (or more) and put it towards police on the streets or health care we'd save 100x as many lives. I don't know. I do know that I'm closer to having some of those answers today than I was before this guy came forwards, and I think that's positive.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 03:37 PM) The best comparison I can come up with off hand for a Rios deal is Hunter Pence for Seth Rosin, Tommy Joseph, and Nate Schierholtz last deadline. Rosin and Joseph look like mediocre prospects (though highly drafted, 4th and 2nd rounds respectively) and Schierholtz left in free agency to the Cubs (and is having a great year). All I'm going to say is that dealing Rios is risky. Didn't Pence only have 2 months remaining on his contract at the time?

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 03:27 PM) The payroll expansion was a result of scheduled contract increases/arbitration increases. And $15 million for a front line starter.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 03:21 PM) Then why didn't any of them do it? I have to assume their legal teams understand and explained the consequences. They're not banks. (I can't tell if I'm being sarcastic).

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 03:07 PM) I agree he's not as bad as the others, because at least he had some insight on this, but the way he's trying to come off as a savior via his interviews is making me sick. He also jumps to conclusions as to how business works in the US, simply because he worked for the NSA. The way he's talking, and it bothers me greatly, he's basically saying, "Apple or Google should have denied participation DESPITE the US government having court orders backed by the Patriot Act." The stupidity of that statement goes above and beyond naive. If people could ignore valid court orders or summons or warrants that easily, they'd probably do it all the time. Unfortunatly, doing so results in very bad things, no matter how big of a company you are. So, I do have one problem with the logic in your initial post. Only 1 of these things can be true...either, as you state, everyone already knew that the NSA was able to do stuff like this and was actively doing so, or this leak is very damaging and has exposed behavior that embarrasses the companies and the US gov't. Both of those can't be true simultaneously. If everyone knew that this was happening, this disclosure wouldn't be hurting those companies.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 03:03 PM) You should check out /r/circlebroke if you love to hate the circlejerk. It's the only thing I am subscribed to on Reddit. Anyways, I just don't think he can be equated with Assange or Manning. Certainly a lot more noble than those buffoons. I dont necessarily disagree with the rest. There's definitely a lot to this story...he's clearly thought a lot more about what he's doing than Manning did, which isn't really surprising given their respective circumstances...of course, that raises the valid question about why there are so many people in the intelligence business in this country and whether that alone is a security risk (it obviously is).

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 02:55 PM) I've removed such references. Forgive me, what I've been reading from "posters" on Reddit have pushed me...it was like wading through peoples drool in order to have a conversation about this guy. False hero worship sickens me. Thank you. Now I can actually read. And to your surprise I'm sure, I'm not certain I disagree with the original post.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 02:53 PM) Then don't read. If a writer can't go a sentence without referencing bodily fluids as an insult, the writer should be embarrassed.

I can't bring myself to read beyond the first 2 paragraphs. It's disgusting and insulting and I'm not even interested in seeing what the point is. Come back to me when you can write like a human being.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 02:43 PM) Last year in AA: .800 OPS, 10 HR, 12 3B, 13 2B, .240 AVG/.370 OBP There was some hope there. BA a little low, but at 23 he still had time to sharpen that up. He was looking at least like a serviceable MLB backup with his speed and defense. This year...there's no explaining that. Some have said he is a release candidate, but at age 24 and with a little bit of track record I'm going to try to find a level/batting approach/position/something where he can succeed and hope something clicks back into gear. IIRC He opened last year with a major hot streak and finished out the season on a major slump. The hot streak brought some hope, the end of the year didn't bring much.

Think they'd be interested in Peavy?

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 11:34 AM) Ventura is falling on his sword taking this team through its rebuild. No reason to run him out of town for the mess of a roster that the Sox are throwing out there. The results of KW's handling of the farm system are coming to roost now and there will be a little bit of a dip as the Sox burn off their overpriced contracts and produce quality players from the farm system. Hahn is doing a great job of adding talent into the farm system, the development of that talent is obviously a big question mark. You could tell in free agency this year that this was the direction the team was heading, Keppinger was nice player last year but is really more of a utility guy that will not block any prospects. Hahn really needs some players to start performing to their norms so that he can make some moves, otherwise there isn't much sense in making a deal. I would like to see him talk to San Diego about Amarista and Blanks for some pitching, two guys who dont have a starting role and could play a role for the Sox. If Ventura was actually doing any of this, I could agree with you. The team isn't. The White Sox expanded their payroll by somewhere in the range of $20-$30 million this year depending on how the bookkeeping is done. What is really happening is they tried to field another competitive team this year and it has absolutely blown up in an explosion of stupid play, poor focus, poor preparation, and a few injuries to boot.

QUOTE (staxx @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 10:06 AM) A change of scenery player like Smoak might work too for a lesser player. Just remember, he's arbitration-eligible next year, so he'd cost several million dollars to keep.