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QUOTE (pktmotion @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 02:19 PM) Do you part ways with Danks or Floyd? (I think if they keep one of Liriano or Peavy; they lose Danks or Floyd) John Danks is flat out unmovable right now.

QUOTE (daggins @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 02:12 PM) You mean beyond the fact that even when healthy he has been hammered by AAA teams, repeatedly? Also he is going to be 25 next year and has had two down years in a row? Yes, considering that he hasn't really had a down year this year, he was solid at AA, he had a short DL stint, he's started 5 games at Charlotte total, 2 of which gave up 6 runs and 3 of which gave up 0 runs? Yes.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 02:11 PM) If he is gone, he'd likely be traded for another change of scenery player that could possibly start at 2b or 3b We're not yet sitting on a prospect beating down the door to replace Beckham (or 3b) though. Might be the case a season from now with Saladino or someone like that, but we're not there yet.

SOMEONE GOT TROUT OUT!!!!

FWIW, Youk's been worth just over $5 million so far this year in fWAR's world. $16 million the 2 previous years...but you just can't guarantee he'll stay healthy for a year if that's the kind of performance you'd expect. You can probably decline that option and still be able to sign him for something in the $8 million range.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 02:04 PM) And that's exactly why Jerry and the FO is just sittin' back and chillin'. Because Bulls fans are going to play that card for eternity. If you can't see how Miami just totally thrashed OKC and recognize that the Bulls, even with Rose, would've suffered a similar fate, I don't know what to say. And yet...that same Miami team barely eeked out a 7 game win against a Celtics team that is simply not as good as the Bulls would be if they hadn't lost Rose. The real problem for the FO is that even if they made the hypothetical "Big move" that somehow they're supposed to make, they can't really make it for 2012-2013 if they won't expect to have Rose. Which means...it better be for something that helps after 2013 as well.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 02:01 PM) Brent Morel is pleased. Unless the Sox work out a deal with Youk. As one of Morel's biggest defenders...right now I would have zero confidence starting the season with him at 3b next year. May as well trade away some of your bigger contracts like Konerko if you're taking that chance. Here's the list of free agents.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 01:59 PM) 2011 by itself was fine. Nobody thought the bulls would get that far and they lost to a better team. The problem is they had the audacity to think that flipping bogans for a washed up Hamilton would be the difference this year. If Rose hadn't trashed his knee...can you say it wouldn't have been the difference?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 12:29 PM) Is Floyd worth $9.5 million? If we had to choose between him and Liriano for the same amount of money (or less), you probably go with the potential of Liriano. There's more risk on both sides, but it would be worth it. In the fangraphs world, Floyd's been worth $11 million to $20 million since 2008. Fangraphs isn't liking his peripherals yet this year, but otherwise, he's been worht more than $9.5 million by a lot.

QUOTE (daggins @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 12:56 PM) Sale/Quintana/Leeryanno/Floyd/Righty FA Castro is likely bullpen fodder at this point but maybe Molina can turn it around. I believe KW when he says he has the highest ceiling in our system. Zero reason to think Castro is bullpen fodder IMO.

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 11:20 PM) Who wants to hear that? They'd have to have a reason to be heard. Others are less likely to draw attention to themselves if they are in a region where Al Q may very well be able to eliminate them. They denounce AQ in those regions all the time. Here and there and everywhere. They've actually been key in helping marginalize AQ in those areas after the 9/11 attacks. His statement was made in sarcasm.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 11:14 PM) I can't disagree with that. The only people who should have that is military and police. And even then, you can get some nutjob to snap off. You can't possibly stop it. I know that. But it's not hard to make this kind of event less lethal. You go for the assault rifle for a reason. It works. It's designed to kill everything. If he walks in and starts shooting with handguns, even powerful handguns, it can do no where near the damage an assault rifle can do. The power in those rounds is ridiculous. They're designed for one shot, one kill. The only reason the death toll here wasn't 2 or 3 times as high was the 100 round magazine jammed. That means to me...get rid of the 100 round magazine and it becomes less lethal. Then of course there's the other issue one could raise...if a person is seeking psychological treatment, should they be able to buy multiple weapons? Clearly my answer is...that's the kind of thing you should have a background check for. I know you can't stop all of them. But that isn't a reason why we should pretend we can't prevent some.

QUOTE (Caesar @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 11:12 PM) For who? The guys is making a s***load of money. Who you gonna bench? That would be assinine to trade for him The obvious answer would be Viciedo, Pence is outperforming him. Plus, Viciedo would probably be required in the deal.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 11:08 PM) And this is the action of one nutjob... and while there are more nutjobs, you can't change the entirety of society based upon this. But don't equate this to "health care" costs. That's not what I meant and you know it. Eh, you're the one who brought it back to the costs of guns. If we rid every person in this country of semi-auto, military grade assault rifles, it wouldn't change society one iota, except for making massacres like this much more difficult, and vastly less lethal.

That was one Hell of a leg by Phelps.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 10:59 PM) I hope Robin learns that you pitch your best relievers at home in an extra inning game first. Not last. Isn't that exactly what we did? We got through 4 innings with no runs scored and 4.1 innings with 1 run scored.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 11:00 PM) Thanks. I believe under the new CBA they indeed do. (Learned that after Lee claim, one of the baseball guys on twitter said Philly has until Sunday to trade him etc). Ok, then I learned something too. One more thing to note...if he clears waivers, he can be traded at any point through the end of the season.

James Hansen has an op-ed in tomorrow's washington post and apparently a paper coming out on topic on Monday.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 10:44 PM) So Hawk reacted like it was out? The "It could be out" reaction. "Stretch", etc. Youk's HR's earlier were the "it's out" reaction. "Way back!" immediately off the bat.

QUOTE (Caesar @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 10:44 PM) Thornton throws like a girl to first base Ladies and gentlemen, Matt Thornton's wild and crazy left arm!

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 10:43 PM) A high high pop up. A popup caught 2 steps from the warning track.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 10:22 PM) Sure. I understand. But there is a basic question of what the government's role really is. I know, and we all know, that you think the private sector is so corrupted that it can't possibly make any rational decisions, and we all know that I think it is not the role of government to make decisions for us. Forget the cost arguements - solve it another way. This goes with gun arguments, etc. "Forget the cost of having military assault rifles available to people" in a thread about a case where the only reason why only 15 or so people died was because the 100 round cartridge jammed. Where people in the next room were wounded because the rounds were so powerful they penetrated the wall.

DRAT

QUOTE (Caesar @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 10:19 PM) 2,3,4 As long as Trout is 8 batters away...

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 10:15 PM) If AJ reaches, do you PR? At home you always play for the win. Tank killed that ball.