Balta1701

QUOTE (joeynach @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 04:45 PM) You know I said the same thing about Peavy to Matt Spiegel and Bernstein on 670 The Score. I tweeted at them the other day and there were talking about it on both their shows. Peavy in pitches 76-90 has a BAA of .440 and in pitches 91-105 has a BAA of .420. My point was that while I looked that up on Yahoo Sports, you could tell Peavy has problems from about the 5th on by just watching, he looses it and apparently everyone know it accept for Peavy and Ozzie. Spiegel said that this really points to durability issues with his arm (obviously from all the injuries) and this type of trend really points to a converted reliver or closer...see Kerry Wood!! Though I do feel for Ozzie, can he really have 2 starting pitcher who cant pitch after 75 pitches, wtf is anyone supposed to do about that. What can he besides hope they can somehow get through their 5th/6th inning struggles, you can have 2 of your 6 starters pitch 4 innings every single time out, that would destroy the bullpen and cost more games in the end. Though that being said I do agree if you see Peavy and Humber out there in the 5th or 6th innings without someone warming in the pen, bad things are going to happen, guranteed. Having 2 starters who can only give 5.1 ish innings really isn't that bad...if you're throwing out a 5 man rotation and a 7 man bullpen. That's where the 6 man rotation is really hurting us...we don't have the extra bullpen arm to throw out there to cover that extra inning. Of course, someone will reply to this "Thats why Humber is going to the bullpen", which kind of would miss the point. Even if this is just a temporary thing, if he can give you 5 great innings and an iffy start to the 6th every time out, then he's building up his arm for next year and giving you good innings for this year. Skipping 1 start I don't mind, working him out of the bullpen seems to miss the point of skipping a start.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 04:40 PM) Peavy worked out of the bullpen and still made his next start. And 2 weeks later he was complaining about his conditioning and seeing a physical therapist.

Skipping a start should not mean that a guy works out of the bullpen.

This is how we treat people who put up the best ERA on our staff. The only way they'll learn not to do that is if we send them to the pen. Slightly more seriously, yeah, he's thrown 113 innings this year and never thrown more than 140ish if you count the several years of 100+ innings in the minors. So there's something of an innings issue here. The more realistic answer though is that he gets through 5 innings expertly, but starts to lose it when he gets to 6 innings/90 pitches. Ozzie doesn't seem to have the ability to process that some pitchers aren't conditioned for 110 pitches, so he leaves Philip out there to struggle when his arm starts wearing out with no backup in the bullpen, and Philip winds up taking the loss because of it. Peavy is getting the same treatment.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 04:25 PM) Lol, I can't think better word to describe this game than being a gift. Masterson was masterful against us. Our offense was bad, and Edwin somehow skated by hanging pitches all day and having bad control, yet allowed only 2 runs. If not for that terrible error in CF by the Indians and O-Cab's error, it's a 2-1 Indians win. We were handed this game, and luckily Sergio did not give it back, because he had NOTHING today. Masterson was no more masterful than Jackson was. Both of them gave the other team plenty of pitches to hit, but neither side really took advantage of them.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 04:08 PM) You mean like the Giants were last year? This team hasn't pitched anywhere near the level of the Giants. The Giants had a crappy season from Linecum last year and still threw up the best ERA in the league.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 04:05 PM) I would prefer we kept our starting pitching intact, but certain that just won't happen This 6 man rotation has been stressful on the rest of the roster the whole time its existed.

Cleveland against the White Sox = White Sox against Twins = Twins against Tigers

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 03:49 PM) Get ready. This will NOT be an easy 9th for Sergio. Hafner will be all about the walk and Cabrera will be clutch. Chris Sale would like you to note that he doesn't give a crap about Hafner.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 03:32 PM) Trade Ohman then He ought to be a Yankee by this time next week.

Maybe I'm an old Asian immigrant.

I have no use for 6 day a week delivery/pickup, especially if I can drop something off if desperate/in a hurry. I could get by on 2 days a week or less at home if I had to.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 03:29 PM) You have to wonder why a team would give up a guy like Rasmus if he was anything near a sure thing. Usually young hyped up guys who get traded wind up be dissappointments. See Young, Delmon. We already know that he didn't get along well with Tony LaRussa. There are supposedly some attitude issues with the talented youngster.

Wow, Sale made Cabrera look AW-FUL.

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 03:24 PM) Yeah, Rasmus has so much value based on age? What has he done or proven to have so much worth? Why do many here have him in so high regard? And to be clear if we got him I wouldn't mind but even if Jackson is a rental for them you still have to play them being desperate Put up an .864 OPS while playing CF.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 03:13 PM) And what percentage of total funding is that? Health care in total is a $1.7 trillion-ish industry in the U.S. $500 billion-ish goes to Medicare, MEdicaid is about $380 billion. Then there's some additional monies tossed around by the uninsured. Basically, that tax credit winds up covering somewhere around 40-50% of the cost of private health insurance in this country.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 03:05 PM) Because the private system isn't funded by taxes, then again that is the whole point for you. Except for the $300 billion+ a year the Feds chip in through the Health Insurance Tax Deduction?

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 03:02 PM) This is the benefit of a minor league system worth a damn. They develop Rasmus, who was considered among the league's top prospects, then several years later produce another player to supplant him. And now, they have the luxury of dealing a player they don't need for several pieces to help them contend. GMAB man, the Cardinals have been thought have a bottom of the league system almost every year. They occasionally pull out a couple of pieces but then they're gone before they get to the big leagues, a-la the Mulder trade or the Holliday trade.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 03:03 PM) You guys don't think he'll be back for one more inning? Crain is now up.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 03:01 PM) The private market will go insolvent? Really? Makes as much sense as saying that Medicare will.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 03:00 PM) Yep, which is odd considering his great performance in our home opener. IT's not all that odd. He's a fastball/slider guy. Think Sergio Santos. If that fastball and slider are both well located in a game, then he will come out as basically unhittable. He will destroy people. However, if he's missing either of those 2 pitches, either in control or in break, then he'll be a 1 pitch pitcher. That 1 pitch can still be a solid pitch, a 96 mph fastball can get you a long way through a game, but he won't dominate.

Well, 6 IP, 2 ER, not terribly bad.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 02:59 PM) since 2005 Well clearly he knows who Will Ohman is, so he's watched something.

Thanks guys. So if the Cards have already pulled him out of the starting spot, that ought to impact his trade value as well.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 02:56 PM) Ohman coming in? We'll lose this game. I assume you haven't watched White Sox baseball in what, 2+ months?