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QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 01:41 PM) I'd say Floyd gets moved and Sale gets inserted into the rotation. But that becomes less likely if Thornton gets dealt for Rasmus. I hope Sox are f***ing up with Sale's development and stashing him as a setup man of the future which would be really stupid. Hell, moving Sale into the rotation would require removing 2 starters.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 01:36 PM) He looks awful out there. Made a nice pitch to Cabrera to strike him out after hanging tons of pitchers prior to that. Masterson made more awful pitches to Rios than Jackson has made this whole game.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 01:38 PM) That would be amazing. Still need to remove another starter after that.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 01:32 PM) So move him over and put Rasmus in CF, I would prefer that anyway. Fangraphs actually thinks Rasmus is a below average CF, slightly worse than Rios.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 11:41 AM) The White Sox haven't drafted well in recent years, so you have to go outside the organization if you want to win. Beckham and Sale were 2 guys anyone on Soxtalk could have drafted. Its about time the White Sox scouting department comes up with a 5th round gem. The Sox picked up 3 guys in 2008 who are already at the big league level. That's actually really good. With 6-7 years before guys hit FA, if you get 3 guys from every draft, nearly your entire roster will be people who are arb-eligibile or earlier. And there are still a handful of guys still on their way up who might make something of themselves. 2009 hasn't produced a major leaguer yet, but guys like Phegley, Thompson, Holmberg are working their way up, and we'll probably get at least a reliever or two out of some of those extra pitchers. The other thing that hurt us on the 2009 draft was being repeatedly snakebit by injuries.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 01:28 PM) Hawk sounds like he's just about had it with Rios. Hawk thinks he could hit a couple of those pitches.

QUOTE (docsox24 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 01:26 PM) we need a cf and he was a pretty productive hitter as a 23yr old This sounds like an exact description of Alex Rios.

The strategy on Alex Rios is obvious. Throw ball right down the middle, as easy to hit as humanly possible, and he will do nothing with it.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 01:22 PM) What are you talking about? Keeping Rios in CF would not be a change. But it would still be a weakness.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 01:17 PM) Replacing either of our corner outfielders with Rasmus would be a significant defensive upgrade. Keeping Rios in CF wouldn't be though.

Lance Bass apparently supplied this.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 12:25 PM) That isn't totally true. Yeah. Horrible, horrible things like banning pre-existing conditions and allowing 25 year olds to stay on people's insurance have already taken place.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 01:12 PM) Yeah WTF happened to Dunn's power? You remember that ball that Carlos Pena murdered right around May 1 that went to the warning track? We were both watching that game, against Arizona I think? Suddenly right after that his power came back. Just hoping for a similar Dunn recovery.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 01:09 PM) I really like Colby Rasmus. If the Sox acquire him, I think there must be another deal in the works because that leaves them with too many outfielders this year and next year. Quentin and Viciedo could make a pretty studly offensive OF, but Rios & Rasmus would really improve the OF defense. Rios hasn't been very good at defense in CF this year. He'd be above average on the corners probably...but he'd need to be back to focusing on it, and I'm not sure he's there.

That ball off of Dunn's bat would have left the park last year. This year it was a moderate fly ball.

My word, that was an awful bunt attempt.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 12:22 PM) Humber is at a record number of IP for his career and is showing signs of having his arm fall off. Too f***ing bad. If he's annoyed, then he can take his frustration out by throwing better curve balls.

Viciedo 1/3, 2 R, BB, RBI. De Aza 2/5, D2 2/3, Phegley 1/4

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 06:31 PM) Jackson is a little over two months away from free agency. And he's league-average to begin with. Nobody is raping their farm for him. If you want to get a steal like that, you can't target an MLB-ready guy.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 07:36 PM) That the Sox may have someone waiting to take his position should not affect what we get for him. Quentin's value on the open market is what his value is to other teams. If that logic held, we should be able to get some really good players from other teams cheap, when they have prospects waiting behind them. But we never do. Heck, we should have gotten Thome for salary alone from Philly, because they had Ryan Howard ready to go. But we gave our best pitching prospect and our starting CF who went on to sign a massive contract on the open market (still a good trade, but we gave fair value). In that case though, there were other teams potentially after Thome. Minnesota was possibly in on that. Cleveland possibly too.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 06:20 PM) Winehouse was very talented, but her perpetual problems stopped her from being a "mainstream" name. I'd say the only reason I've ever heard of her is her tabloid problems.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 05:42 PM) Yes, and it could be much less if the Sox and Twins take care of the Tigers and Indians. If I had to put a number on it right now, I think 86 wins gets it done. Someone from this division is going to make a move at the deadline to push to 88. They're so bunched together at the top that a moderate sized move could be the difference easily.

Oh, and since you referenced Germany... The evil socialist horrible worst thing ever tax rates that Obama wanted the top tier marginal rate to return to is 39%, the rate during the Clinton years, from wonderful capitalist best economy ever Bush years 35%. Here's the German tax rate. The marginal tax rate 45%. Similarly, the German corporate taxrate is ~30% as well, which is higher than most industries pay in the U.S. And then there's the whole socialize medicine thing. And the fact that a big part of ther eason why their economy is working right now is that their government has heavily invested in green technology manufacturing, and they're still the world's top producer of solar panels. Oh, and they're involved in Europe's cap and trade system. I agree. Our system would work a lot better if it were closer to the German system, higher upper tier tax rates, higher corporate tax rates, a solidly designed health care system, and a cap and trade system for carbon emissions.

So the U.S. government should use tax dollars to actively subsidize heavy manufacturing to create jobs?