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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 01:41 PM) One thing I want to say that can't be said enough, cutting the projected rate of growth, isn't really cutting. I'd be curious to see how much of the cuts fall into each category. Between January 93 and 01 the debt went up but fell from 40 to 30% of GDP. Does that not count?

If the clock ever starts, here's how the alarms go.

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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 04:56 PM) SOunds like maybe this is the roster move I heard about. If its hurt to the point where its accumulating fluid, that may be a 15 day DL retroactive. Again, the Tribune this morning said that any attempt to DL Dunn regarding his knee would be "Suspicious".

A judge has blocked an attempt in Michigan by 100 landowners whose land was spoiled by Dioxin spills from Dow chemical to qualify for Class Action status, citing of course, the recent Supreme Court Decision in the Walmart case. Their reasoning? The level of pollution on each plot of land varies, and therefore the damage done to each varies, thus they can't qualify for Class Action status.

QUOTE (WHITESOXRANDY @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 04:30 PM) Well, if Dunn's knee gets a little worse then they're all set. The Tribune this morning applied the word "Suspicious" to describe any effort to put Dunn on the DL.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 04:34 PM) You pretty much have to be a d-bag to not vote for him. The guy is the very definition of a Hall of Famer. Would you say he's the single most deserving hall of fame candidate in baseball history? If not, then he shouldn't be unanimous.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 04:25 PM) For the science nerds: Large Hadron Collider Sees Tantalizing Hint of Higgs Particle 130-150 GeV is where it was supposed to be, I think, so yeah...

Somehow I think this one belongs in this thread.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 04:06 PM) Which is easy to see in 20/20 hindsight, but what if the US doesnt get involved and Gaddafi massacres 100,000 people, would that be okay? Because to me its not, so Id rather err on the side of protecting civilians and see what happens. But every person is entitled to their opinion. As of now the US has really not lost much besides for money, and i think people's lives are worth more than money. And as I've pointed out...those expensive bombs kill people too. Dragging out a civil war an extra 4 months kills a ton of people too. You're not protecting civilians. You could try to make that stick when you could still suggest this was going to be over quick. The civilian population is going to take a lot of casualties either way.

If the default option when you don't know is getting involved in a many month long war with seemingly no sign of letting down, progress whatsoever, or plan for how to accomplish your goals...then you've got your policies wrong.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 03:48 PM) The real question would be, how much was gained for how much was sacrificed, and Im not sure how you can really tell which is the right answer in Libya. Because the people who are killed as collateral damage in the bombings and the 4 month Civil War will never be counted.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 03:46 PM) Beltran is also going to cost a team a lot more than Q. In what sense? Would you give up more talent for a guy who is a FA at the end of the year and won't be offered arbitration like Beltran? He'll be more expensive this year, but Quentin is on the book for 2 years. Quentin should be more expensive in both total dollars and in talent cost.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 03:42 PM) That last part is confusing since they both have the same first name. Hence the "Well".

MSL (which you may someday know as Curiosity) has a landing site! Disclaimer: I may or may not have gone drinking with the guy doing the narration. Repeatedly.

Well, he's better than President Camacho.

If I had to guess...the biggest issue with Quentin on the trade market right now would be Beltran. Beltran is more certain to be moved and teams that think they're in on him won't be in on Carlos until, well, Carlos is moved.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 03:39 PM) I didn't think it was the smartest idea to get into another expensive battlefront with the current state of our economy. In this case...war would actually be a decent thing for the economy if we weren't dumb enough to try to cut the budget elsewhere.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 03:36 PM) I don't know if this is sarcasm but he did not deserve to be in the ASG in my opinion. 4th highest OPS of any AL outfielder.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 03:34 PM) You can go back and quote me as much as you want, I cant imagine that I ever said that bombing would 100% work. Just because something doesnt work, doesnt mean that it couldnt have been a clear and attainable goal at the time. There have been plenty of military operations that have failed in the past, and there will be plenty that fail in the future. And the people who said that it will be a complete mess at the start will continue to be right. I'm building up a pretty solid record on this, actually.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 03:30 PM) Or maybe we're overvaluing him. We didn't put him on the All Star team this year.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 03:24 PM) Or its just the reality of the situation. At the beginning people were hopeful that a resolution would be quick. It turns out Gaddafi is going to do whatever he can to stay in power. There are plenty of news outlets that report on this subject every day (Al-Jazeera) but for the most part its a civil war with a constant ebb and flow. The US Civil War took years, hopefully Libya can be quicker, but this was the reality from the beginning, you never know how long it will take. Do I need to go back and find our original discussion on the Powell Doctrine when you told me that forcing Qadaffi to step down using only airpower was a clear and attainable goal?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 03:04 PM) He doesn't even save them that much money this year. If they really want to deal him, they can wait until this winter and do much better for him. Why would they be expected to do better for Quentin this offseason? He's cheaper now for a team making a run right now, he's healthy now (which you know is a risk 2 months down the road)...and most importantly, he doesn't have to compete with a bunch of other FA outfield options next offseason, there are only a handful of available OF bats right now. I'd think you can get a lot more for him now than in 2 months. Unless he goes crazy and puts up a 1.200 OPS for August and September, which he can do but...

Oh God No, please God not another impressionist...I don't want to see more of another Impressionist appearing on Fox during Football...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...