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QUOTE (kapzk @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 01:33 PM) But wouldn't you rather have Alexei than Rios with runners on hitting infront of or behind our sluggers. Right now, Alexei will just GIDP.

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 01:33 PM) False. 2011 Alexei has a 8.7 BB%, Rios has 6.3%, this year. So pretty much 2.4% difference, Kind of off from 40%. 6.3% * 140% = 8.8%.

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 01:23 PM) Yea Alexei has possibly shown more patience at the plate however both players ability to draw walks are pretty much similar (Alexei draws 2% more walks that Rios) I would rather have Alexei hit farther down in the line up in a Run producing role rather rather than Rios. It all comes down to who would you rather have when you need to score some runs I would rather choose Alexei (eventho he has been frustrating to watch with all those DPs) Alexei draws 2% more walks than Rios if you don't think that the current Alexei is any different than the 2008 version when he never walked. This year, Alexei's drawn nearly 40% more walks than Rios.

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 01:02 PM) Rios did lead off in Toronto in 2006 where he hit .302 that season, so I think he is very much capable given that task however this is not the same Rios from the past, until he shows that he is out of his crazy season long funk then we could experiment him in the leadoff spot. Even while hitting .302, he still only put up a .349 OBP. His OBP is incredibly base-hit heavy. Alexei is, quite simply, a more patient hitter than him (yes, let that sink in, then go check his 2009-2011 numbers.

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 10:19 AM) is there even gonna be a season? sure sounded pretty grim. At this point it is pretty grim. The NBA labor/owner situation makes the NFL one look cozy.

Good luck finding that paper trail.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 10:27 AM) I have no urge to even see Alexei at the top of the lineup. Alexei needs to bat 6th or lower, there is no stat that can convince me otherwise. He doesnt need to do anything but think about hitting, he doesnt need Ozzie telling him to draw walks and try and lay down bunts If we're unwilling to put Ramirez at the leadoff spot, then I think we're better off trying to trade one of our starters to find a better fit than we are going with anyone else currently on the team.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 10:25 AM) There's two posters on this site that have proven time and again they have inside sources. One of them said the master plan is for Rios to lead off next season. Well, I guess if you look at the Sox's lineup this year and think "Man, Pierre's been bad, but if only we could have less prodcution from the leadoff spot, that'd make everything great."

Eventually you have to report those on your taxes.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 10:23 AM) I hate to say it, but I think Rios is the solution to Viciedo coming up. If Rios continues his resurgence, I would lead him off and bring up Viciedo to play OF. Rios has done it before in Toronto, he is capable. The only question is whether Rios figured it out or if he is just having a lucid moment in a season of insanity I have no urge even to see the good Rios leading off. Alexei Ramirez has a .360+ OBP on this season and if he's leading off that cuts the chances of him GIDP which has been his worst sin so far. Alexei's playing like a leadoff hitter.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 10:21 AM) [/thread] Ok, in that case, the 2011-2012 NBA thread is closed.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 10:20 AM) Yeah, that was totally what I was referring to, and not the thing that isn't provable. You're the one who wrote that when Pierre came back, Viciedo would get sent back down.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 10:17 AM) Phil Jackson couldn't have coached that mess, and you know it. When I look at that 2001 or so Bulls Roster, I'm constantly surprised at how many guys from it actually made something of themselves. Brand Artest Crawford Hoiberg Miller

Any chance they just released them?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 10:17 AM) I love your hypothetical world where we just make up stuff to fit our agenda better. Yeah, the hypothetical like "Juan Pierre is still playing almost every day."

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 10:15 AM) they didn't recover the first year after their team was dismantled. I could take the easy out here and just reply to that with "Tim Floyd." In fact, that's what I'm doing for now.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 10:13 AM) Versus being in the lottery in two years and be stuck in limbo for half a decade while their fanbase walks away? Yes. That is better than the lost decade that the Bulls had when their superstars left, and we tried to "rebuild". And yet, the Bulls only really finally recovered once they hit the Lottery.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 10:06 AM) Um, that is exactly what people want to do with Pierre. He has stopped hitting, so we want to send him out. You misread. Right now, we're rewarding Pierre for poor play. In your hypothetical, we're punishing Viciedo for hitting. That's how we do things in this org.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 10:08 AM) Which is making my case why the best thing for Orlando is to deal him. Why would that be the best thing for them? So that they can have enough talent to take the 7-8 spot and be stuck in limbo for half a decade while their fanbase walks away?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 10:03 AM) Laugh all you want...that's the reality in the NBA for a team like the Magic. We saw the same stuff on the Cavs before Lebron left. They have a team that is a playoff team, with a star, but a star who has the ability to leave as a FA in a couple years. They start gambling...everything...to try to win while that star is there to make him willing to stay.

The UK Defense Ministry is now warning the politicians that they won't be able to sustain the Libya operation past the end of the summer without breaking other commitments.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 13, 2011 -> 10:23 PM) I see the Brewers continue to have an idiot for a manager. Playing Kotsay in CF, and then not walking Aramis with a base open? I feel sorry for Milwaukee fans. Maybe next year we'll get to see Adam Dunn in CF for the Brewers.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 09:45 AM) PS. I hope Viciedo does come up and just platoon Rios/Lilli in the outfield and have them leadoff. How do you platoon 3 right handed hitters?

Can you explain how you afford film?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 09:15 AM) It will go a long way towards making the point. If Viciedo succeeds, you find a way to get rid of Teahen or Pierre. If not, you can send him down and have made your point. Yeah, that's how we send the message. Pierre is struggling, Viciedo came up, filled in, and murdered the ball. But hey, Pierre's back, the only way Viciedo's ever going to learn how important it is for this team that he stops hitting the ball is if we send him down.