Balta1701

He’s also a corner outfielder that you can’t really move to another position and he’s coming off a leg injury that also was associated with him having a terrible defensive year. Exactly the kind of guy who will probably spend some time at DH his first year to try to keep him healthy and significant time there if signed on a multi year deal.

The White Sox are $13 million below the tax line right now. $16 million was with the tiny increase the owners wanted.

If you go to the offseason thread, there’s a graphic of salary over the past 10 years, and I believe Seattle was just ahead of the White Sox having spent more than them.

I assumed they were replacing Milwaukee, and Milwaukee is a small market team.

I only now realize this because Manfred had to lie today. The owners’ proposal turns the luxury tax into something much closer to a hard cap with bigger penalties. If something like the owners’ proposal passes, the White Sox will have only about $16 million to spend next year. If they spend more than that, it would cost them at least a third round draft pick, along with a financial penalty. If they were to do something like Conforto and Rodon, it could certainly cost them a second round pick.

Seattle?

His attitude has been more of a thing with each successive year, but he's a helluva ballplayer when he's on the court and motivated. They were a healthy CP3 hamstring away from knocking off the Warriors with Durant. He adapted himself repeatedly to other systems and was able to have success doing so. He also seems like an excellent fit alongside Embiid, because he has been a successful ball distributor and shooter in the past. I'm not sure that he can stay healthy like he once did as I'm pretty sure he stopped taking decent care of himself after the Paul/Westbrook trade imploded on him, and yeah he's been completely unmotivated the last 2 seasons so?

This only happened now?

Milsap also to Philly according to the ESPN alert.

I feel like many of the bigger name guys who didn't sign yet were guys who were waiting to make sure this existed as it would change their markets. Schwarber, Castellanos, Conforto, Soler.

It will not be "accepted", but it will put the ball back in the PA's court to make their next counterproposal. That's exactly how things should work. The owners put something out that gives somewhere, the players put something out that gives somewhere. If we could stop with the "Wait 43 days to make an offer" and "remember when we said 2 days ago we'd give another counter offer, oops we won't be doing that, sit on your hands for another week and a half" bullshit, then there might be some actual progress. This was always going to take a lot of back and forth to get done when they started with actual issues they needed to deal with.

Let's spell this out in a single post. Bauer while in Ohio starts a relationship with a woman. It lasts a couple of years, but has several incidents. The police are called once when she says he hit her during sex without consent, police report is filed, pictures are taken. The woman gets a citation for underaged drinking out of one of those. A couple years later, that same woman takes out a protective order against Bauer in 2020, using texts/snapchats where he says he'd kill her. Bauer's attorney says everything was consensual, that the Washington Post went talking to all his exes to find one that would say something bad, that the woman had tried to extort him. However, interestingly enough, this isn't public enough for the Dodgers to find out about it, which is odd for an extortion case. His attorneys imply that the texts/snaps didn't from him, but the order is granted. Bauer signs with the Dodgers. Has a relationship with a Pasadena woman, eventually she also winds up requesting a protection order. This one goes much more public, he gets suspended, but his lawyers say the same thing and the case/order get tossed out. In the meantime, through his online persona, more than once he retweets something some woman said about him so that his hundreds of thousands of followers will go and harass the woman in question. He knows full well that he can get in trouble if he personally threatens to kill someone, but if he puts up a bat signal and a thousand of his followers threaten to rape and murder someone using anonymous twitter accounts, the police say they can't deal with that many threats and the victim should make sure that there is a semen sample left on the body if one of them goes through with it. At least one of these is a minor. While law enforcement hasn't figured out any way to deal with this type of organized harassment, "I can do this because the cops haven't figured out how to prosecute it" is about as terrible of a defense as one can offer. With all that said, 2 questions to everyone. First of all, put yourselves in the shoes of a GM. Imagine your team signed him. If there was another incident, this pattern of behavior becomes extremely relevant and an indictment towards you - you're putting yourself fully on the line for him. If Rick Hahn signed him, and next time he carries out one of the threats he sent, Hahn is out of the league for having trusted him. Are you willing to put your career on the line for this guy? And second, going along with that first question - has Bauer done anything that makes you think he has learned from these incidents and that they're unlikely in the future? I'm a believer in rehabilitation, and that if a person does their time we should give them a fair chance to get back to their lives afterwards. Has Bauer actually been punished? Is his online persona any different? Has he shown anything that suggests he won't get out of control again in his private life? Or has he kept up the same act, all the while having his lawyers aggressively go after these women? Is he a risk to do something substantially worse? If you're a GM, do you have any reason to think this will be the last incident with him? I'll hang up and listen.

Yeah, I think it’s clear this isn’t Garpax and Jimmy Butler any more. This front office is actually effective and putting together a roster that is good enough to make some noise in the playoffs, and LaVine isn’t going anywhere unless they think it makes them still better somehow.

What about the threatening texts he sent to the woman in Cincinnati that led to the first restraining order?

And when they do that...every single 6 inning outing he completes becomes a higher %age of the innings limit.

At least two different women in 2 states have requested protection orders against him (one of which was completely unreported until the second was filed) and he has a history of encouraging harassment of women through social media and it's inconceivable that he went repeatedly over the line? Extreme tastes?

In 1995 MLB saw a 20% reduction in per game attendance according to Forbes.

While you can do that to a point…the magnitude of fan anger and reaction is harder to calculate.

I don't get the connection?

Remember the time the Cubs traded for Aroldis Chapman and then fired the DJ who played “Smack my b**** up” when he was on the mound? https://www.businessinsider.com/cubs-fired-dj-song-aroldis-chapman-2016-8

Obviously some of these folks will be extended, but right now 2023 free agents include Tyreek Hill, AJ Brown, Calvin Ridley, Debo Samuel, Marquise Brown.

Ok serious question. In 2012 the White Sox traded for Brett Myers, who once punched his wife in public on a street in Boston. I don’t know and probably will never know everything that Bauer did with these women, but I have substantial trouble saying Bauer is dramatically worse, to the point where this is the right sentiment. Didn’t we all say “we don’t like this but we will come to terms with it” once already? If this is the standard and perhaps it should be, then we need to take a closer look at ourselves for that one and why we continued to be fans of the team after that.

Didn’t the case already end in civil court?

Something to think about - April attendance is pretty low everywhere, while playoff revenue is big time TV deals that are shared money. On the other hand, the players league wide are paid every game whether it’s April or September, and although there are playoff shares they’re small compared to the big contracts. Missing April and May, for example, hurts the players way more than the owners, as long as the owners get money from October (assuming no damage from loss of interest). A players strike starting towards the end of the season, on the other hand, would hurt the owners more than the players (at first).