Balta1701

The other potentially worth while point, on top of the point NSS makes, is that torture historically is great at 1 thing...getting the person you're torturing to give you the answer you want. It is in virtually all cases regarded as quite ineffective in getting information out that is actually correct or in getting information that is useful. We can even give examples from recent years to support this. We had an Al Qaeda high up guy, rendered him to Egypt, asked Egypt to let us know if he had any information about contacts between Iraq and Al Qaeda, and viola, within a few weeks, the guy confessed all sorts of connections between Iraq and Al Qaeda. Colin Powell referenced his information during his speech to the U.N. It was all obtained under torture, and it was all lies to get the beatings to stop. Similarly, we've had "orange alerts" triggered by information from Gitmo that were called off after a couple days because the information was deemed unreliable after a few additional days questionning. We don't have all the details on those, but the pattern follows quite well. Torture a guy, get info about your terror plot, then try to confirm it with a polygraph later. On the other hand...the interrogation of Saddam Hussein, which the FBI has hailed as an example of how to actually do things, was a slow process, took a year or two, but recovered virtually every bit of information we could have asked for about his relationship with other leaders, how his government worked, where the bodies were buried, and what happened to his WMD's. If you torture someone to find out a piece of information...you will get that piece of information whether it is true or not. That is what torture is effective at.

Can I nominate the speech involving the phrase "Fool me once, shame on...shame on you...10 second pause...fool you can't get fooled again."? Solely from video clips, I have to nominate a couple of speeches by JFK. His Inaugural address and the Moon speech @ Rice university.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 11, 2008 -> 07:14 AM) Do they honestly think this "poor Hillary, look how she's misstreated" strategy is appealing? Americans hate whiners. When Saturday Night live did their Obama/Clinton debate sketch and she referenced it, suddenly there was a week or two of the Media trying to "Vet" Obama and trying to find as many negative stories as they could about him to try to create some measure of balance. And on top of that, there's plenty of other times this campaign that Hillary has used the media's insane urge to pounce on her for anything off kilter to her advantage. She may well have won the New Hampshire primary and saved her campaign by waving the red cape at Matthews et al., and having them go absolutely nuts for 2 days. (TEARS! OMG! TEARS! WHAT DO WE DO! OMG!)

LOL.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Apr 10, 2008 -> 06:54 PM) Oh come on balta, that video is clearly fake. You should know better than that. You know what? You got me. Checkmate.

The Lakers hav eto be so unhappy about that video

QUOTE (BearSox @ Apr 10, 2008 -> 05:40 PM) It is a scary thought to completely leave Iraq, leading it wide open to Iran and Al Quieda(sp?) to take power there. If they do, gas prices would seem cheap as to what they would then eventually be, if the wrong people get their hands on that oil. So, Iran basically gets to decide whether or not to declare cease fires in the war there, and yet we're worried about them "Taking over"?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 10, 2008 -> 12:40 PM) Not to sound like a broken record, but I firmly believe that Joe would put Boras in his place should he get a fair offer from the White Sox. The White Sox can't even make an offer. They're prohibited by union rules from approaching Joe without going through Boras, they've approached Boras and tried to make an offer and were rebuffed. What else can they do?

DiGiorno's is excellent but is slighly pricey compared to other ones on the shelf. For something real quick, cheap, etc., if I'm careful with coupons I can sometimes pull off a Tony's pizza for about $.75.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Apr 10, 2008 -> 09:13 AM) Just remember, you are raising the IQ in two states by moving to Chicago Don't worry Tex, next January, any positive change in Texas from this move will be more than offset.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2008 -> 10:08 AM) Exactly. Having the true CF, and a defensive wiz who can play all three OF positions is more important, because we have at least 3 guys on the roster now who can play 1B if you include Thome. The only real thing left that could be done to improve the bench would be to have Alexei be a left handed hitter if possible. Or...as I'm starting to think we should do...swap him with Bourgeois, since JB is listed as a switch hitter. Gives you the left handed versatile bat off the bench, and gets Alexei the AB's he should be getting.

MLB and the MLBPA seem to have tentatively come up with an agreement to turn over the management of their drug testing program to an outside administrator.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2008 -> 09:59 AM) With the way our roster is made up today, Anderson. The big benefit of having Gload on our roster when we did have him was that he was the only guy we ever seemed to carry who was a legit backup 1b who could give Konerko extra rest or extra days at DH. The difference now is...if we ever use it, we have the ability to do that anyway with Swisher, who can play some 1b as well as the OF. In other words, Gload's role is now covered. Especially since Ozzie seems pretty determined to keep his main guys in there right now every day (See my sig) Gload would be even less useful than BA.

Great, emergency alerts in limited letters. "RUN!"

QUOTE (Texsox @ Apr 10, 2008 -> 08:06 AM) I'm guessing Oz will be deducting from his $100,000 set aside . . . Still, the next time that same ump ejects him...don't you think MLB's going to at least start taking a closer look? Especially after the NBA's last offseason, I'll guarantee you the MLB doesn't want their umps putting themselves in a situation where people start thinking they're going after specific teams for personal reasons.

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Apr 10, 2008 -> 08:59 AM) is jose a free agent at the end of the season or does he have another year left? ( at the end of this year ) Jose has another year left, FA at the end of 09.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Apr 9, 2008 -> 10:30 PM) I was just reading the article about that on the Sox site. Even if the guy does have a vendetta, I don't think any good can come out of talking about it. You don't think that the MLB keeps an eye on these sorts of things and takes steps to try to avoid hearing these statements out there?

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Apr 10, 2008 -> 08:19 AM) Things not to say in an interview. "What is your weakness" "I guess if I had a weakness, its that I work to hard, and care too much." It works if you're running for President though!

John Cleese wants to volunteer as a speechwriter for Obama.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Apr 9, 2008 -> 07:01 PM) weird cub game...cube up 2-0 in eigth, marmol looks like he will blow it, but only gives up 1...bot of 9 wood gives up a HR to Bay, game goes to the 14th without either team getting a hit...cubs get a 2 r Hr in top of 14 from aramis, LaRoche answers in bot of 14 to tie it...going to 15 Didn't they go 14 the last time they played?

Is there any way for the team to hold on to him next year if he's on the DL, or at this point should we just cut him??

Josh Ashcroft is a wise man.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 9, 2008 -> 05:19 PM) that won't happen....we're living or dying with this starting 5. The only one that I think it makes any sense to try to move is Contreras. If someone will take his contract, then it makes sense to try to find a replacement. It doesn't make sense even medium to short term to move Danks or Floyd, because even if all they do is learn a little bit, their value will keep going up the next few years.

An AP reporter that the U.S. has detained in Iraq for nearly 2 years without charges has been ordered freed by an Iraqi court and had the charges against him dismissed by them. No word on whether the U.S. will actually abide by the ruling.

QUOTE (Wedge @ Apr 9, 2008 -> 02:22 PM) dumb question: can I hear sox games on the Score website? No. You can access the games if you pay the $15 or so for MLB.com's Gameday Audio. If you're at a computer during a lot of games, it's worth it. Especially with Stoney.