Balta1701

The only way I think the owners would block things in 2028 is if they were staring an almost certain expansion plan in the face and Reinsdorf was somehow going to block that.

Today? Oh yeah Reinsdorf dropping "We're moving to Nashville in 2029" today would have the owners screaming. That would take away their expansion fee options so it would take money out of their pocket, and they'd legitimately be able to say that the White Sox owners were acting irrationally and hurting their brand as a whole in the process. Reinsdorf announcing anything today would clearly be him saying FU to the state and White Sox fans, and the owners won't hurt the league like that. It would be completely arbitrary and out of no where. The owners held onto their power for a reason, they have the power to say no and they'd use it. The White Sox have to let this play out through negotiations, and they know that. It's almost certainly why Reinsdorf started things right now, in 2024, because trying to negotiate for years and getting no where will be part of building support among the owners for allowing him to move. Whether it happens or not, it will make the threat of moving real, and JR clearly thinks he needs the threat of moving to Nashville as part of his negotiating strategy based on the fact that he's already threatened to move.

I believe they would probably block it today, but that watching these stadium sagas drag out will change the equation just as it did in Oakland. I think the owners will act as a break on anyone moving a team irrationally, I don't think they will block it in general just because a team has been in a spot for a century once every option for public-funding has been exhausted.

See that's the thing, if the White Sox genuinely can say "We tried to get a stadium deal done for 4 years and the city and state would not play ball", is MLB going to tell the White Sox no? Are the other owners? They want to be able to leverage the threat of moving for their own stadium deals, if MLB were to block that, it reduces the leverage of every other owner in the future when they make crazy demands of taxpayers. If they were arbitrarily trying to move this year, fine right now there's no stomach for it, the league would say no today but there's literally a gulf of $1.5 billion between the two sides. I don't see how we are anywhere but right here in 2028, with the White Sox telling the league that they tried for 4 years and their stadium deal is expiring, and the league saying "fine if you have money elsewhere we won't block you".

I can't find all the details because Google is now terrible, but Oakland gave the A's a serious offer for a new stadium as a partnership with a whole bunch of public money involved.

I don't see a way that this gets resolved without the same sort of brinksmanship that it took to get the deal done for new Comiskey. Reinsdorf isn't going to offer up his own money if he can threaten to leave, and the only thing that might make the state offer anything is a 100% serious threat to leave. And if the politicians don't fully cave with a massive offer for him like last time...I don't know how this ends other than the A's approach.

I believe they should retire his throwback jersey.

Given our history with this ownership, presumably this is an effort to find and fire the leakers rather than to improve the identified issues.

“No one wants to win more than Reinsdorf” is one of those things he loves hearing about himself, which is why the yes men around him repeat it constantly.

January of 2020.

You have to remember, he also surrounds himself with guys like Chris Getz, Rick Hahn, and Tony LaRussa, who tell him that things are great and they love his feedback because they know they can have high paying jobs forever with no accountability, so they become yes men forever, or in one case they’re just completely nuts. If everyone is telling him he’s doing a great job, why would he need to change? And meanwhile, he’s terrified about being told that he’s made a mistake, so he won’t even interview GM candidates outside the organization.

We have a 50/50 player.

...So they've been using the same plane for at least 10 years?

…not Getz though.

Mine’s better.

A Rick Hahn apology thread should feature an apology from Rick Hahn.

A quick search suggests that the average age of an A320 in United’s fleet is 25 years, and this one seems unusually low in the size of the first class area.

One of the things that stood out the most over the past decade is the high ground ball rates. It’s not just one guy, it’s everyone, and the longer they’re here the worse it is. Eloy, Vaughn, Anderson - these are guys who should be hitting line drives and fly balls over the wall, but they gradually become more and more ground ball heavy. Do we seriously think this is an accident, and anything other than the coaching staff telling them to hit the ball on the ground and put it in play? Theres a line in the article about how Reinsdorf wants guys who get em over and get em in. LaRussa comes in, and these guys turn into ground ball machines. Thats a coincidence? Naw.

I don’t have it in front of me but I don’t remember seeing it stated that Haber refused to comment as they did with Hahn. Did they?

No one hates White Sox fans more than…well we know.