Milkman delivers

QUOTE(whitesoxin @ Dec 9, 2006 -> 12:02 PM) Freddy. Won the division clinching game, ALDS clinching game, and World Series clinching game. I voted for El Duque. That inning was absolutely amazing. I love that poster they put in the Sun Times, the one with the timeline of each pitch he threw that inning. Still have it on my computer.

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Dec 8, 2006 -> 10:45 PM) Without him, we never win the WS in '05. That team was so special, because everybody did something that cannot be forgotten to help lead them to the promise land. I will never foget game four Freddy, bases loaded and you got out of it. Can Garcia rise up?

QUOTE(whitesoxin @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 12:27 AM) Thursday aka tomorrow. Well, then that probably means there won't be a follow-up to this trade until at least after tomorrow. Maybe it's time to call it a night.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 12:26 AM) After hearing how the Sox watched an hour of tape and decided they could fix some of his flaws, it reminds me of this great saying "Don't worry, Coop can fix him". An hour of tape swung their decision in favor of trading for him? Well, that's either incredibly good or extremely bad news.

When does the Rule V draft end?

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 12:18 AM) The Tigers are going to have some of the same problems with their rotation in 07 as we did in 06. There honestly wasn't/isn't that much out there to make this team better than it already was. If our pitching staff pitches close to what we expect then we're again the best team in the division. That all being said, we could have got more for Freddy and that's what pisses me off about this. So, because the White Sox rotation decided to take a year off of baseball, the same thing will happen with the Tigers?

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 12:16 AM) I still think the Indians are going to be a major contender next season. I doubt that, but we still seem set to finish behind the Tigers and Twins again.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 12:11 AM) We better not be trading anymore starting pitchers. I'm just very confused about our bullpen....it's arguably weaker now than it was to end last season. We need more depth in the bullpen, as it's crazy to expect MacDougal to stay healthy. Not to mention that the Tigers have gotten considerably better with Sheffield. We seem to be moving laterally, if not slightly forward/backward.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 12:00 AM) I've calmed a bit as well. Still not very happy with the overall deal, but I over reacted. We all overreacted, and we've all calmed down. But, that doesn't change the fact that this deal was terrible.

The next trade or signing that KW makes will have one of two effects on me. I will either be jumping for joy, or ripping the towel rack off of my wall and smashing my dresser with it. Don't keep me hanging on...make the move as soon as possible.

Aw, God. No Barry Bonds.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 10:50 PM) Cause at least we'd be getting a 4th outfielder that could help against LHP. This is a disasterous trade...Gavin Floyd stinks. I would have rather we keep Garcia and then risk losing him after this season. Maybe another GM is an idiot and thinks Floyd is worth something (You know, like the best available starter through trade)? That's the best I can hope for right now because this deal looks absolutely terrible. If Rowand isn't involved, we didn't get ANYTHING that helps the team right now. If he is involved, then we at least have a 4th OFer...unless they trade Anderson for a High A-ball closer.

What the f*** is the point of trading for guys that we already had? KW was supposed to rape some team this year, not bring back former players.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 10:31 PM) Well you haters got what you wanted. In my opinion it was a mistake to trade Freddy over Garland maybe even Vazquez because his trade value wasn't as high as their's because he only has one year left. What the f*** are you talking about?

Come on, this can't be all there is to it.

Whoever we get better be flipped for Carl f***ing Crawford, or KW is an absolute idiot.

f*** this, it better be wrong.

That deal doesn't seem as outrageous as I was expecting.

QUOTE(103 mph screwball @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 12:26 AM) I do think the Sox want Rowand back, but fortunately KW is not stupid. I'm sure the Phillies with try to use KW's aggressiveness to their advantage. We all know KW will overpay for a guy he really wants, but he values his pitching too much for this to be true. If that is what the Phillies' are asking for Aaron, I'd end the talks. That's one thing that most people seem to overlook with KW. I can't count how many times I've seen a post that shows mistrust in KW's decisions, but the guy ain't stupid. He really knows what he's doing for the present and the future.

QUOTE(103 mph screwball @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 12:35 AM) KW will do his homework before trading for Farnsworth. I do not know from first hand knowledge, but I'm pretty sure I've read things here at Soxtalk that would make me very concerned about bringing him back to Chicago. He allegedly used to party a bit too much. I plead ignorance to Melky. Would he be a nice addition to the Sox? o I don't know much about Cabrera. All I do know is that he's only about 22-years-old and that he put up pretty good numbers on a team that puts more pressure on a player than any other team in baseball. Not sure if he can play any position besides LF, but I don't think he's an overrated player like most players that come out of NY/Boston.

QUOTE(shoota @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 12:36 AM) The fact that Ozzie admits Mack is a poor choice in center indicates what we've been speculating for months, that Ozzie knew Anderson in center is the best option he had, yet he let personal bias trump what was best for the team's success. This guy's good^^^ Ozzie clearly let's personal bias take precedence over what is best for the team. It's obvious in the way he twists what McCarthy says to reporters. B-Mac says that he'd be more useful in the rotation than he'd be in the bullpen, and Ozzie says McCarthy is demanding that he start. Ozzie's basically just a douchebag that wants his way or the highway, but he's a douchebag that's won a WS, so I don't know.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 05:45 PM) A-rod plays 3B, Uribe plays SS. If A-Rod hadn't bulked up, as some on here have mentioned, I would have much rather had Uribe at 3B and A-Rod at SS. As we know, Rodriguez isn't the greatest 3B, but he was a damn good SS. Uribe is one of the best SS's in the game, but I think he'd be able to handle 3B much better than A-Rod could. So, instead of having a great SS and a slightly-above-mediocre 3B, we would have two pretty damn great defenders at both positions. That is, of course, if A-Rod hadn't put on weight.

Ozuna was truly one amazing signing before the 2005 season. And I am certainly happy he's still with us, as he's my favorite Sox player along with Iguchi.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 04:42 PM) I actually trust that Garcia will magically find his 92 mph fastball again during his FA year. On the other hand, unless the Phillies are offering Rollins, Howard or Hamels, I really hope KW puts down the phone. We can do much better than some crappy 4th outfielder and a medicore pitcher. I've been saying this for a while. I'm am, by no means, a Garcia fan. But, it looks to me like he's the guy most likely to put up a stellar year. If the team is confident that he has regained his fastball, I would keep his around. He has improved his control and added a splitter. Also, he might hit free agency at the end of the year, so he'll be pitching for a contract. All of that adds up, in my mind, to a big f***ing season from Freddy Garcia. And I'd like to ride out that hot hand.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 07:45 AM) Speaking of Russ Springer; Holy s***, I had no idea Springer was 38. I thought he was young.