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QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Feb 15, 2013 -> 09:17 AM) I would think a giant turtle would take forever to get from Russia to North Dakota. You should be good. The Giant Turtle is just sitting there, waiting for The Nothing to consume it. It isnt going anywhere

QUOTE (knightni @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 11:40 AM) Why? She's the sexiest woman in America right now. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 15, 2013 -> 08:21 AM) http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/21703459/ Cuz thats the way these things go.

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QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 10:09 PM) It is different. Each character has a unique level that you play for them where their skill is needed. The time travelers level almost drove me insane. I know that you are saying. I knew what I was supposed to do with the rock to roll it out of the way so the well would appear, but I wasnt rolling it far enough up to the right. The game is really fun though. The twins level I really enjoyed

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 04:19 PM) Ok, so that's a good example of how dumb NBA GM's are. How the owners and the commissioner negotiated with the NBAPA recently isn't. Well, Jenks mentioned the amnesty clause in the most recent CBA being included to relieve GMs of some of their previous stupidity

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 10:43 AM) Once you witness a live birth, your life will never be the same. Truth. Last one in May. Unless something really crazy happens

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 04:01 PM) NBA GM's don't negotiate with the NBAPA. No, but their Owners do, and I am sure the owners dont like seeing picks and money being wasted on the Leon Smiths of the world

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 01:28 PM) I wish there was a little more story behind the characters. I think when you replay it with different characters the game changes. At least a little bit. I just beat it with the Twins, Knight, and Time Traveler. I missed two cave paintings though, so I want to go back and try it again. It was pretty funny when the Dragon ate the princess and king

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 02:36 PM) otoh this works well for big-name, super-star athletes but probably not so well for late-round or UDFA level players. And those are the players that really dont fit into our discussion, because the likelihood of them skipping College for the Pros is pretty slim. Those types of players would probably recognize that going to college would benefit them a lot. Lets be honest here, our discussion pretty much is about Elite high school athletes that everyone recognizes huge potential in.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 02:29 PM) I have reviewed agent agreements, but it was not free. Sure if RGIII walks into the office and says he wants to retain our firm, wed do it. But the problem is that no one is giving a lot of these kids advice. They just do not have access to a lot of independent people who dont have something to gain from them. The school wants them to stay so they can make money. The agent wants them to leave so they can make money. This type of stuff there is nothing you can do to change. But due to all of the inequalities all of the potential issues that even the most successful student athletes face, Id just rather give them the benefit of the doubt about being able to enter the draft and not lose eligibility, etc. If Im going to err Id rather err on the side of the players. Nobody said these attorneys and agents will work for free. THey will work under the premise that their star client will get drafted and paid well, and THEN they will get paid, which is why the previous post said delay payment. There are players that come from a poor background, and of course they cannot afford good representation at first, but the people that want to represent them know that it is a gravy train if they have a great athlete as a client. Its not like they are going to ask for all their payment up front before the draft happens. And these kids surround themselves with their posses. The advice they get is family and friends. That is their own choice, if they wanted independent advice I am sure they could seek out someone like World Wide Wes

Maurice Clarett lost to the NFL trying to get in early, didnt he?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 12:29 PM) Totally applying to work at Hooters as a part-time server

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 12:25 PM) Steve, Even private employers cant discriminate based on race/religion/sex. http://www.eeoc.gov/employers/coverage_private.cfm http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/qanda.html Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII), which prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin; So that law is basically saying that a woman can play in the NBA, and a man can play in the WNBA?

I just want to say this is a fascinating thread to read, and lets try and keep tempers down if we are gonna argue for many more pages

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 11:41 AM) The Cave is a pretty fun side scroller / puzzle game. By the same guy that did Maniac Mansion and Monkey Island. I think it was only 10 or 15 bucks to download. Im halfway through, I agree it is pretty fun. I love the narrator

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 11:44 AM) What if he doesnt get drafted in the first round? What if his knee gets infected and his leg is amputated? Its really easy to say "Oh who cares" and give the BEST CASE SCENARIO. There was a pretty famous Wisconsin player named Lee Evans who came back to school for another year. He had a devastating knee injury. It hurt his draft stock. He ended up still playing in the NFL and things worked out. But I will never forget the moment when I thought that this poor guy had given up generational wealth over a stupid college game.And I love college sports, its just not worth it for some of them. Was that his choice? Or was this because he didnt have 3 years under his belt?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 10:43 AM) That's a whole other discussion in itself. I dont think it is a completely different discussion though, I think it somewhat dovetails into it. Say these kids are finally getting a cut of the pie, are we still complaining it isnt fair? Say Noel is making, i dont know, a couple hundred K at Kentucky, getting his degree(right), and his surgery and rehab is all covered, does the age limit to enter the NBA seem to be not as big of a deal?

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 10:39 AM) I also believe that baseball allows for a player to be drafted multiple times and not lose eligibility. Im fine with some restrictions. I just think that they should be in favor of the student, not in favor of the professional league. Are they able to hire an agent though? I think that is the kicker with NFL/NBA, once they hire an agent they remove their amateur status

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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 10:26 AM) Because people dont seem to like this conversation I wont go any further because it seems to be a wall, so this is my last post. HS diploma and college diploma are MERIT based criteria. Age is not merit based. If the NBA criteria was you had to have a COLLEGE DEGREE, then it would be comparable. But that is not the requirement, nor is the requirement a HS diploma. Either of those requirements would potentially limit the NBA from getting the best basketball player. People keep mentioning govt age requirements. As if just because the govt does something it means its smart, right or good. And regardless no one has tried to explain how the NBA age limit is for PUBLIC policy. The age requirements on President, Congress, etc, is so that REGULAR people dont get hurt. But that is enough of this conversation. It is unlikely going to change, I just feel bad that the NCAA/NBA dont care about these kids. They make rules to screw them at every turn, and for what? Just so that they can make a little more money. Greed like that makes me angry. I can split this conversation. I dont think people dont like it, I think they want more College BBall talk in this thread.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 08:37 AM) I'd imagine if I had a half-living human protruding out of my body after stealing my nutrients for 9 months I'd rip that f***er out too. Also, Jake, a link would likely work next time. Ha! Stealing, thats a funny way to put it.

QUOTE (Jake @ Feb 12, 2013 -> 04:36 PM) My impression is that we never extended a contract offer to Mark, since we were not willing to come anywhere near market value at that juncture. I am talking about previous contracts, all negotiated and completed in good faith from both sides. Tell me this, do you think if Mark went to the Sox and wanted to work something out in order to stay, that they would have rejected it? To me, he said he wanted to test the market, they said go right ahead. He got his offer, came to the Sox and told them, and Reinsdorf said "you better take that, we cannot offer you that." It is what it is. I do believe if Mark wanted to stay at a more reasonable paycheck(for the Sox budget), it could have been worked out.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 07:57 AM) Plus Senator and Representative. Most elected bodies have age requirements. Government doesnt count in his argument. only private companies To me its simple, it is a private company, there are alternatives for the players(foreign leagues, college). Is the NBA taking advantage of a situation? Sure, but any successful company would take advantage of a situation like that in order to protect its employees from being dumb with their assets.

Is that considered a dirty hit/action by you guys? Im just starting to come around to hockey this season, and to me it didnt look any more intentional than any other rough-housing on the boards, but reading some of the reaction to it, it seems like because of who did it(Cooke) and his reputation that it is something that might get reviewed by the league