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QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 05:25 PM) oh, my mistake. Anyway, I agree that the Heat have a really good defense. But so do we. Ours is arguably better than theirs. It is impossible for you to admit that the Heat are better, I understand this. But it is all moot when the Heat can put Lebron James on Rose and shut him and the rest of the Bulls offense down immediately. It is what it is. The Heat are top heavy, the Big 3 are far greater than the sum of the Bulls current parts.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 05:20 PM) You know what making moves just to make moves reminds me of? It's what Orlando's spent the last 5 years doing or what Cleveland was doing trying to make James happy. They had a roster that was a step below championship caliber, and if they stayed pat they had an outside shot at things. But that wasnt' enough to keep their star happy or really push themselves into a championship team. So what did they start doing? They started gambling...taking the assets they had and trying to turn them into something that could help. That's why Cleveland wound up with Shaq. That's why Orlando wound up trading for Turkoglu again. Thats' why Orlando wound up trading for Arenas. That's why Orlando traded for Vince Carter. They had to make a move somehow, but they didn't have assets to trade...so they did the big contract for big contract swap. That's right where the Bulls are now. They simply don't have the assets to make a major deal. They won't have a top 10 pick until 2015+, the would have difficulty coming up with an expiring deal (although they could hypothetically do so if they packaged Hamilton, Korver, and Watson), and if they tried to turn the expiring they have into something, it'd involve taking on something like Joe Johnson's awful contract. Whoa whoa, wherever did I say anything about making moves just to make moves. I said the FO needs to put a STAR next to Rose and quit f***ing around. Im not talking about adding Hedo Turkoglu and Vinsanity and calling it a day. The team needs to make a team, not piecemeal together around Dwight like Orlando did. They need to get creative and stop letting everyone else pass them by waiting for a handout. Every one of those other GMs did so and benefited from it, they didnt wait for it, they LOOKED for it.

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 05:19 PM) offenses dismantle defenses, and defenses stop offenses. You said the Heat offense dismantled the Thunder offense, which didn't make sense to me. The Thunder could not guard the Heat well enough, and the Heat did a very good job guarding OKC. Simplistically speaking, that was the difference in that series. This is my point though: people bemoan the fact that we don't have 3 stars like OKC does and they bemoan the fact that our offense isnt as good as theirs. But for all the "Grass is greener" talk, OKC couldn't do any better against the Heat than we did! really? I said the Heat Offense? Read it again, I said the HEAT

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 05:13 PM) When someone offers them the kind of silly deal that the other teams got? Sure Balta. whatever you say

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 05:09 PM) The Heat did not dismantle the best offense in the NBA, they dismantled their defense. Big difference. OKC had 3 stars but they could hardly do any better against the Heat than we did! Think about that. Maybe this team isn't as bad as people think. I'm sure of it, infact. I'm just trying to convince you guys of that fact. Are you kidding me? Harden completely disappeared! Perkins and Ibaka couldnt stay in the game long enough to make an impact, in almost every game, Kevin Durant was constantly bothered and even though he was scoring, he was taking tons of shots to get points. Westbrook was good, but even he was doing some stupid things and making mind boggling turnovers The Thunder offensive rhythm and fastbreak offense was completely thrown off by the Heat

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 05:02 PM) These are great comparisons. In almost every one of those cases, someone helped a team out. The Lakers got Gasol for Scraps. The Heat put themselves together so that titles wouldn't be so hard. Prokhorov only gets a championship team if Orlando helps him out...he can't possibly do so otherwise. The only one that didn't...was the assembly of the Celtics...where both Minny and Seattle got pretty fair deals, with AL Jefferson and Jeff Green as the centerpieces along with a lot of cap space. The Bulls really can't offer either significant cap space, young cheap talent, or a top 10 draft pick in the next draft. I think that makes the case pretty well that the Bulls need some other team to help them out if they're going to be able to take another step. If you arent looking, then nobody will be there to help you out. When will the Bulls actually pull off a deal? Please, let me know when it happens.

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 04:59 PM) I think Bulls fans right now have a very fatalistic mindset, that just because it didn't work last year, that it can never work as constructed. I do not believe that. I belive in my team. I think we were damn good. No we don't have 3 superstars, but we had a great team, a tough team, the best defensive team. Everybody is so high on OKC and their 3 stars and how great their offense was. Well, what happened to them? Tell me about it. What happened? Yet you sit here and say the Bulls would beat the Heat, when you just watched the Heat completely dismantle the best offense in the NBA. The fans dont have a fatalistic mindset, they see that everything right 2 years ago and it wasnt enough. Last year everything went horribly wrong and they got bounced in the 1st round. It is reality, RZZZA, the Bulls have to restructure this team, and Derrick needs some real help, not a 36 year old corpse of a former championship team.

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 04:52 PM) I agree with GarPax then. You act like there's no such thing as chemistry in the NBA. This team, as constructed, was good enough to beat the Heat had it stayed healthy. I firmly believe that. A punchers chance, nothing more. the Bulls would have had to be absolutely perfect to take out the Heat this season

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 04:54 PM) How are the Celtics NOT a team that found a core that works? Rondo/Allen/Pierce/Garnett is their core, they've been together for many years, enough time for chemistry to form. Chemistry is a huge part of why they're such a good team. I don't want to be like the Knicks, who destroy and rebuild their team every single year, chasing the next big FA acquisition or big name trade. Stability in an organization is very important Again, this chemistry you are talking about wasnt developed. It was put together. The Celtics won in their first try together, they havent won it since. If this core keeps getting better, why havent they won more titles since then? Because they are getting older. Which is exactly what this bulls team will be when Rose is back to being himself(hopefully), two years older.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 04:49 PM) My biggest problem continues to be...I can't see a mechanism where if the Bulls start tearing this thing down, they have any real path to get back up unless someone helps the team out. And frankly, most of the "save us" trades that people can complain the Bulls didn't pull off (Teams taking on Deng's entire contract and passing back the 7th pick or something like that) fall into the category of "Why is this team helping the Bulls out". Amnestying Boozer and trading Noah and Deng for a fair return doesn't make the Bulls that much better...because both of those guys are between quite well paid and over-paid. If you want to clear their contracts to play free agency...you have to take very little back. If you want to take back contributing players...then you're not going to clear the kind of salary you'd need to play free agency. At some point the Bulls FO is going to have to stop being p*****s and waiting for something to happen. Danny Ainge made it happen. West always made it happen, and so has Kupchak. Riley made it happen. Popovich and Buford made it happen. Right in front of our eyes, Prokhorov is making it happen. The Bulls are a top notch franchise. The fans always come, Reinsdorf never has problems at the gate like he does with the Sox. Sometime he is going to have to say "Do this Paxson, I want a championship." And that time needs to come soon. You cannot wait for another MJ to will the franchise to multiple titles.

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 04:48 PM) I don't think it is nonsense at all. This team in 2010 was not as good as it was in 2011. We were ranked 18th in offense in 2010 and 5th in offense in 2011. Things just started to be much crisper and quicker after that chemistry started forming. Noah and Boozer barely even played together with eachother in 2010. In 2011, they were the highest assisting big man duo in the NBA, second only to Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum! There is a lot to be said for chemistry. I want us to be like the Celtics or Spurs. Find a core that works, leave it alone for years, and let it mature. Garpax approves of this message

So I have pretty much resigned to the fact that I wont be seeing Danks anymore this season. If he comes back, fine, but this "strain" seems to be far more than just that.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 02:11 PM) Okay, this may be old news, but it's the first I've seen of it. Tom Cruise has been cast as Lee Child's Jack Reacher? If you've read any of the books you can clearly see that Reacher is 6'5" and over 250 lbs. Tom Cruise is nowhere near that. I read an article about the writer saying casting a guy close to Reacher's size would be difficult, and while that may be true, Tom Cruise is pretty much the last guy I picture when I read about Reacher. Maybe Joe Mangianello, but we both know they are going for the starpower with Cruise

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 04:15 PM) That still leaves me unable to figure out how he kept silent for near a decade, including having Sandusky around PSU events. The godfather told him to shut his mouth, and so he did

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 04:08 PM) I mean, replacing one or two guys is not that difficult. But once you start talking about removing or adding major pieces...thats when the chemistry is gonna take a hit. Say what you want about Korver but he's had 2 years with this team, he knows how to come off those screens juuust right, with juuust that perfect timing. The next 3pt shooter we get might not know how to do it that well, at least not right away. Thats just one example Stop it, this chemistry you are talking about is nonsense. This exact same team you are complaining about tearing apart was put together on the fly within a few weeks after the Decision, and managed to work together just fine. And you far overvalue the players on the roster. Korver is a good 3 point shooter, and a huge defensive liability every time he steps on the floor, and he also choked bigtime when needed(re: 2011 playoffs). Just like Ronnie Brewer is a good defensive player, and a huge offensive liability when he is on the floor(despite what he did at the beginning of this season, that shot is not reliable and he doesnt need to be constantly taking midrange jumpers). You keep talking about needing to match Houstons offer on Asik, that makes me ill just thinking about not being able to add someone around Rose because of Asiks large backloaded deal. Yay for 50 percent free throw shooting. Talking about the need to keep this team together is exactly what GarPax is doing, and it drives me nuts. The team is flawed even with Rose at 100 percent. Does that mean they couldnt take out the Heat? We will never know, it will never happen with this team. By the time we get back Rose, hopefully management has begun to assemble a championship roster around him that wont sit back and wait for Rose to do his thing and will rather work with him while he does his thing.

QUOTE (YASNY @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 03:34 PM) I've got mixed thoughts on this. While looking out for the health of his players is a good move on a certain level, he also sent a message to his entire team that this particular game was not that impopstant. While in the grand scheme of things that may be true, it does set a bad precendent and put questions in the mind of his young ballplayers. You have to think all of these players can recognize the difference between this game and a game that really means something like an actual Major league ballgame though. I understand what you are saying, but I really dont think any of them understood that message as "It is ok to lose a game" as much as "holy crap we ran out of players and this game has no sign of ending"

a whole bunch of "That is f***ed up" happened at Penn State over the past decade

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 10:49 AM) After LBJ and Dwight I just want to give a big hug to Rose and Durant. How about management gives Rose a metaphorical hug and quits f***ing around and gets him some legit help

Andy Griffith at 86 years old

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 08:47 AM) If Howard goes to Brooklyn, I really hope D-Will signs with Dallas. From all i have read, Dwill and Dwight are attached at the hip

Starting to sound like Dwight is going to get what he wants.

I didn't realize Glen Perkins could get it up to 97. Great night for the Sox, gain .5 on Tigers and Cleveland

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 2, 2012 -> 05:16 PM) Is that because of the cap...or is that because the authors are assuming that Brook Lopez + whatever other assets they'd have left wouldn't be enough to get Dwight? I'm not counting on the latter. Cap. I cant imagine Joe Johnson, Dwill, Dwight, plus Gerald Wallace's shiny new contract will be something any team can afford

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 2, 2012 -> 04:37 PM) Well clearly, but when he's demanding to be traded to the Netropolitans...usually those things have an annoying habit of happening. I'm not certain whether they can swing it to make the contracts work after this deal, but starting with Lopez they can send $5 million in salary to Orlando with him and a couple rookies and they're currently sitting on a fair amount of space even after signing Wallace. It is already going around that Dwight is really not possible should this trade go through. I just dont get it.

Cillian Murphy now confirmed to be in the movie.