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QUOTE(Heads22 @ Dec 29, 2005 -> 03:50 PM) Makeshift? I was gonna say something, but then I thought "naaaah, not worth it...."

And VAFan, how come you didnt read the last paragraph of my post? I said it wasnt likely. Not that it was impossible

QUOTE(VAfan @ Dec 29, 2005 -> 03:42 PM) Well, who turned out to be right about Garland????? I'm not sentimental at all. If Javier Vazquez were a better pitcher than Garland, I'd be thrilled to have him take Jon's slot in the rotation. Fact is, he isn't close right now, unless Cooper can work a miracle with him. ******************* So, that's two out of three. I don't expect Crede to sign, nor to I expect the Sox to extend him a deal. When I first wrote this I thought Crede was three years from FA. In fact, he's four years away, with 3 years of arbitration ahead. If I were KW, I would try to sign him for those three years and buy myself some cost certainty. But with Crede's back, I can understand not taking the risk. Even so, watch Crede turn in a great year in 2006. you act like our reasoning wasnt sound. KW issued an ultimatum and Garland responded before Contreras did. It doesnt change the fact that you are overly sentimental about players and engage into extended whinefests when you think one of your guys is going to get traded. and you still dont understand that noone here wanted Garland traded. Most of the people realized the situation the Sox were in and saw Garland as the moveable commodity because he had already turned down a contract and supposedly the contract talks were over. I never said I didnt want him, but I certainly could recognize what his value was and why the Sox would move him, something you still cannot grasp obviously. But thanks for the 20/20 flashback.

You would think that Fred Miller would have shown people not to f*** with Olin Kreutz

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Dec 29, 2005 -> 12:57 PM) Here's something I've always wondered about Raffy's story: I remember reading that Palmeiro said that Tejada gave him a vitamin injection of some kind. Steroids issue aside, WTF is Tejada doing with drugs and syringes?.....and WTF is he doing playing Dr.? The only reason I still have doubt that Raffy took steroids is that there is really no reason for him to keep up this charade anymore. Whats the point for Raffy? This guy has made his money and had a good career. And if his career was close to being over before this happened, it must be over now. Why does he want to keep pushing it? If knowingly he did it, you would think he would just come clean and say "Man I screwed up, I saw my career slipping away and tried for one more glory season.", and just walk away from the game. The most unfortunate thing for Raffy is the only proof anywhere is in his test that he failed. He has nothing on Tejada except a story. It just seems to not be worth it for Palmeiro to drag it out this long if he really did it.

Whether he warrants that kind of salary is moot. The market is set, and the Sox ponied up to make their guy happy. If a consistent underacheiver like Burnett is getting 11-12 million a year, then what do you think Garland would command? The Sox got him at a discount and protected themselves from an unhappy player next year if the market takes off again. There are plenty of players in the league that dont warrant their contracts, you just have to be able to set apart the ones who will rip you off from the ones who will (somewhat)earn their money.

I love this quote from K-Dub And he is like "Jerry is taking the risk, and I am to blame if we fail." That is a true leader.

QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Dec 29, 2005 -> 11:40 AM) But he's only holding up five fingers. eh, I found a good pic of the count and used it. I wasnt interested in how many fingers he was holding up

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Dec 29, 2005 -> 11:33 AM) And so it begins, like Chaveztalk, and Griffeytalk, and as recently as Garlandtalk, we are now offically Counttalk. Ah Ah Ah, I count 6 wonderful pitchers!

QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Dec 29, 2005 -> 11:32 AM) What do you think will happen with Jose? If I had to guess I would say that this thread will be repeated 5 times by tomorrow. Thats all I've got

QUOTE(wilmot825 @ Dec 29, 2005 -> 11:28 AM) Hey if Anderson is a stud, I will stand corrected and look like an ass Well then how about we actually let him play before we decide to trade him, what do you think?

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QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 29, 2005 -> 01:37 AM) i have never done this before but this is the first time I blame the refs. These jackasses were Sun Belt Refs. I have seen High School Refs call a better game. This was on both sides. Michigan played a very good game and they had the Nebraska QB on his ass all day. you have never done that before? s***, I do it all the time when I watch college sports. Its an impossible urge to deny. Still though, Nebraska? Michigan shouldnt have been in a position to have to come back with that ninny Callahan on the sidelines.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 11:13 PM) LOL...what's worse is I said the Lions should contend for the North. You werent the only one fooled by Millen and Mooch. Dont feel bad.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 29, 2005 -> 07:10 AM) In the same article, the Cubune was mooting Contreras being part of a deal for Miggy Tejada. Contreras and Uribe for Tejada, I don't know if either team would do that still. But I think both parties may still discuss it. I wish Tejada hadnt opened his big mouth. I dont want to hear these rumors anymore, let the Cubs overpay for him. The Sox already have their SS

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 10:51 PM) Heh, I'll even admit, as much as it pains me, that I was dead wrong about the Bears. It takes a REAL man to admit he is wrong, Heads

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 10:10 PM) Lose by 13 to the f***ing Bobcats? Yay for reaching complete joke status. No s***. Same script, they mail it in about midway through the 3rd quarter. And not only do they lose, but they look like 8th grade players when they are doing it. The first 8 minutes of the 4th quarter were absolutely pathetic. Tyson traveling, Gordon jacking, Kirk throwing them away, Deng stepping on the sideline while shooting a three, Sweetney getting called for a foul that he didnt commit, then committing a stupid foul 3 seconds later, Pargo throwing away an inbounds, getting another chance on a delay of game and immediately throwing it away again, Nocioni getting an offensive foul, you name it, they f***ing did it. Absolutely pathetic.

The audio from the conference call on MLB.com is very interesting. KW says the payroll is expected to settle in at 95 million, and he would prefer to keep all 5 starters he has now and give BMac time to develop and put on some weight and get situated with himself. some quotes -in regards to McCarthy's role next year

Happy Birthday Josh. Now own up.

And what is "The Owens thing" and the rumors about Owens?

QUOTE(SnB @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 05:35 PM) tejada is coming and going to play center AND be our 7th starter.

LOL, yeah we should trade some prospects for Rowand before the season starts.

I think this gives the White Sox a great opportunity for the first half of the season next year. Everyone is worried about the WBC taking its toll on the MLB players, so the White Sox get a chance to actually go with a 6 man rotation until the trade deadline if needs be, and move one of 6 pitchers to fortify the rest of the team. Kenny is awesome, no doubt about it.

QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 12:27 PM) At least he doesn't seem to pissed about sucking it up here. I dont really see what he would have to be pissed about. The guy fumbled the first time he touched a ball in a bears uniform, and he never stopped. He knows somewhere in his brain what he did wrong. He just cannot admit it.

QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 12:32 PM) Was this guy good during his playing years because i think i am too young to remember or know who he is. He was really nasty in his prime, but he hung around for about 4 years too long. He didnt have much left in his arm when he finally retired. He had a crazy slider IIRC, and a power change. drop down/sidearm delivery.