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Keith has this actually been confirmed somewhere? I keep seeing conflicting reports that it's done/not done, that King is/isn't included, etc. I'm still waiting on official confirmation somewhere...? Edit: Versus just reported it done as a conditional 2nd round draft pick... Also here's a quote from the brief blurb on tsn.ca "In addition Vancouver added veteran centre Bryan Smolinski from the Chicago Blackhawks for a conditional 2nd round pick."

I went football, especially thinking about college football

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Feb 26, 2007 -> 08:33 AM) I think you need to explain more than that. Not the second part, but why you think Blackhawks is not offensive. I don't see how it could be offensive: "McLaughlin had been a commander with the 333rd Machine Gun Battalion of the 86th Infantry Division during World War I. The division was named after a Native American; Chief Black Hawk, who was a prominent figure in the history of Illinois, and is one of many sports team names using Native Americans as icons. McLaughlin's wife, Irene Castle, designed the original version of the team's logo, which survived with only minor changes until 1955."

QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 25, 2007 -> 10:44 PM) I watched and cried as the Penguins skated on Stadium ice with Lord Stanley's Cup. Was there as well, doing the same. Remember the Roar

I was at the game again today, Smoke played well. After the game he sure sounded like a man who thought there was very good chance he was on his way out. Dale better make 2-3 moves by Tuesday, there are tons of team looking to add pieces. Smoke would get us the biggest return, too.

I can't believe this thread hasn't been deleted already due to pure stupidity.

I don't have the Oscars on, but you are probably wrong seeing as how Gene Honda wasn't done with the Blackhawks game til about 4:30.

Multiple U of I bball games Hawks pregame show during the 2002 playoffs Sox/Cubs game a few years ago

QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 23, 2007 -> 04:41 PM) Great article, I had no idea how many games they worked If I were a ref making that much money, i'd figure out a way to ref 2 games in a night And Welmer makes some good points.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Feb 23, 2007 -> 04:25 PM) I'm going to ask LCR this, since he went to U of I and made these comments; How is it racist for a University to use a mascot dressed up like an old tribesman and half him dnace to cheer up the crowd with the intent of cheering up the crowd (lord knows the football teams need it) and not mocking the actual members of the Illiniwek tribe? Now how isn't it racist for Michael Richards to call a bunch of black people "n*****s" repeatedly with the intent of hurting or insulting the individuals? Using a gimmick based off an old tribe with the motive to cheer up people and NOT insult native Americans = RACIST!!!! Using a slur with the motive to insult people of color = not racist. go figure. Excellent point. Response doesn't surprise me.

QUOTE(fathom @ Feb 23, 2007 -> 03:37 PM) The spin job by the Illini fans is amazing right now. Besides for many thinking that all charges vs Jamar will be dropped, some have even mentioned this will help recruiting because Weber will be looked at as looking out for any African-American athlete who gets in trouble. I couldn't even make up something as stupid as that. Certainly aren't getting that here. IB perhaps? Anyway, there's no way this helps recruiting, spin it however the hell you want.

QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Feb 23, 2007 -> 02:15 PM) LMAO! Thanks for sharing that! Emery was just chomping at the bit to get into a fight. And then coachest get into the act?! HA! I cannot stand Lindy Ruff (he was a b**** coach last year when they played the Canes). And if i'm Ruff i would have been going nuts as well, and would have put the same guys on the ice.

Interesting article on how much CBB refs work. http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/6495276...CP&GT1=9131

http://www.pjstar.com/stories/022307/ILL_BCFAESNC.083.php

I went with basketball as well. Though the most judgment calls are made in baseball, the vast majority of them are ball/strike judgments, most of which are not controversial. Additionally, most of them are 'correct' and don't have as much of an impact on the final score. A lot more baseball calls are black and white, in theory. In hockey the penalties, while also a complete judgment call, are usually pretty apparent and there are usually only a few calls each game that could have gone the other way, only resulting in a power play (or absence of a power play), and teams only score on those 15% of the time, roughly. A lot of calls in hockey, also black and white (offsides, icing). Football you could 'call holding on every play.' But besides that and pass interference or what not, there isn't a lot of things that aren't black and white in football (and they have the use of instant replay on many really big calls. If there was no replay, i might go with football on this). Basketball there COULD be fouls called every single possession, and there seems to be so much disagreement on calls or no calls from fans, coaches, and players alike. A lot of foul calls aren't exactly by the book calls, it's a lot of judgment. Good or bad refs, they definitely impact the game every time down the floor, in theory. Their calls result in free throws, possessions, or easy buckets depending on what happened. Even if the refs in college basketball (or otherwise) were amazing at their job, they still have the most impact on the final score based on the nature of the game, IMO.

I agree you don't turn your back on him, but no way he should he be no the bench, period.

Who wants to drive when parking is 20 bucks anyway?

Watching the Hawks listlessly lose 2-0 to the Sharks at the UC is not a good bang for the buck. In Toews/Skille we trust. Also, check this out from Buffalo/Ottawa tonight. Full out brawl including goalies: 05:07 NEIL, C. : Fighting (maj) - 5 min 05:07 STAFFORD, D. : Fighting (maj) - 5 min 05:13 VOLCHENKOV, A. : Fighting (maj) - 5 min 05:13 EMERY, R. : Fighting (maj) - 5 min 05:13 EMERY, R. : Fighting (maj) - 5 min 05:13 EMERY, R. : Goalie leave crease - 2 min 05:13 EMERY, R. : Game misconduct - 0 min 05:13 PETERS, A. : Roughing - 2 min 05:13 PETERS, A. : Instigator - 2 min 05:13 PETERS, A. : Fighting (maj) - 5 min 05:13 PETERS, A. : Game misconduct - 0 min 05:13 MAIR, A. : Instigator - 2 min 05:13 MAIR, A. : Fighting (maj) - 5 min 05:13 MAIR, A. : Misconduct (10 min) - 0 min 05:13 BIRON, M. : Goalie leave crease - 2 min 05:13 BIRON, M. : Fighting (maj) - 5 min 05:13 BIRON, M. : Game misconduct - 0 min 05:13 KALETA, P. : Misconduct (10 min) - 0 min 05:13 PHILLIPS, C. : Misconduct (10 min) - 0 min

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Feb 22, 2007 -> 05:14 PM) That is definitely a great tradition. Especially when they have special guests dot the "i." There are great traditions everywhere. I remember talking to people from other colleges at U of I games saying how cool the Chief was. And there was never booing coming from the opponents section, at least not that I ever heard, during halftime. College sports are nothing without all the tradition and history. Oh and for the record, i think the dotting of the "i" is indeed cool. And i have zero reason to root for OSU.

Then make em play 5 sets.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Feb 22, 2007 -> 05:01 PM) You may be right -- maybe I was over the top (and I agree that Downey is generally a hack). I'm just angry, and I do think Illinois needs to change. Anyway, I should probably should stop posting about this until the whole story comes out. I can't wait for the baseball season to start. I'm as angry as anyone around here (although it's tough to match 101), and I haven't been one of those ridiculous apologizers you have seen or heard the past few days. I'm pretty pissed off about everything the last week (and it seems like with each passing hour it gets worse). I just don't appreciate that hack having so much misinformation and inaccuracies in his article. The Chicago media has never really done a good/fair job covering the Illini, so I don't know why I'd expect anything different now.

Ok, any lawyers out there wanna field this one? When does the money become the property of the strippers? When he puts the bag on the floor?

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Feb 22, 2007 -> 04:17 PM) Reading what the media is reporting I have to think most people would agree. The mock funeral thing was just one more example of terrible judgement that reflects poorly on the University of Illinois. Bill Self made a great decision to leave for an institution with some integrity. I normally consider Mike Downey a hack, but I have to agree with his column The University of Illinois is an embarassment. Something needs to change. I have to wonder if you take yourself seriously. There was some pointless stuff in that article, such as Zook having to defend himself from recruiting rumors. Well gee, anyone could accuse any other school of stuff, and that's supposed to reflect poorly on them. Furthermore, i'm sure illinois it the only school to recruit a player with possible problems, have a recruit drop from the team and/or have off the field problems. Oh, and no other college has had a basketball player get in a scrap with a bouncer at a bar that has a brutal repuation for their bouncers anyway. No other school has given a player a "second chance" after he broke any sort of rule or law. And then there's this amazing gem from that hack: "NCAA rule enforcers aren't outsiders. They are the guardians of scholastic sport, committed to equality and justice for all." Oh btw, Downey, the NCAA did tell us to scrap "fighting illini" originally. I've jumped all over this program for what's happened recently, but that article went over the top, as did your comments. He tried to paint Illinois as the most corrupt program in the history of the NCAA, and that's just a joke.

I don't know how this happened, but I've never played Monopoly. /enter SnB yelling

It's possible none of them called 911 because they all believed he was dead and they were possibly trying to figure out a way to make this look like an accident to the police, which is just unbelievable. This story gets worse every day.