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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 25, 2013 -> 06:55 PM) Bruce Levine ‏@ESPNBruceLevine 38s Hawk Harrelson "TWTW " T shirts already available in White Sox gift shops courtesy of VP of marketing Brooks Boyer . Hey, at least it will be easy to pick out the meatball fans walking around. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 25, 2013 -> 07:00 PM) If there are T-shirts, this was probably a set up from someone Not necessarily. They make T-shirts at 2 different spots (at least) at the park, so they could have done some there or even just had a rush order from a local place.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Apr 25, 2013 -> 05:32 PM) Now? But in all seriousness, this org is just really hard to root for right now. Appealing to the lowest common denominator pisses me off. Maybe he was known by casual fans for his catchphrases, but I don't think they all knew he was an idiot. Now they do.

Times Square was next on their list http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/25/us/boston-attack/index.html

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Apr 25, 2013 -> 05:17 PM) #MakeAnImpact And I just saw on twitter that they have TWTW on the CF score board right now. Goddamnit why does it have to be embarrassing to be a White Sox fan? Hawk's a national laughingstock now, so hey, let's get on his TWTW thing while it's hot! I'm sure the guys are all fired up during BP, I guarantee a win tonight.

QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 25, 2013 -> 04:32 PM) How would one calculate that? Size of penis divided by wins? You can't use any numbers to measure TWTW, go back to the drawing board.

40 years from now when TWTW exists we're all going to look like idiots.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 25, 2013 -> 04:17 PM) Please let this be available online. It was just replayed on B&B, surprised you didn't hear it. I'm sure it'll be somewhere momentarily if not already.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 25, 2013 -> 04:11 PM) Ugh. These arguments about metric analysis vs skill scouting are great, except when the extremists who think one way or the other is the ONLY way jump in. Sounds like Hawk took one extreme. Did the other guy at least leave some doors open? All he kept saying was TWTW, defense wins, and you gotta have the W, it's all about the W. Any point Brian tried to make, Hawk answered with something ridiculous like I just mentioned. Pure gibberish from an old man.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Apr 25, 2013 -> 02:45 PM) I'd have zero problem with Manti. LB is a big need going forward and Manti will be a good player. Title game says otherwise, as does his 40. Besides, Bears have a need at every position.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 25, 2013 -> 01:09 PM) But the Astros have better attendance by 2000 fans a game... Are the t.v. ratings actually more important now? Have they announced any early ratings for White Sox games in early APRIL? Where is that available? Arbitron? Nielsen? Because with the Masters, NFL draft, Bulls, NCAA basketball tourney, Blackhawks, nicer weather, school not out, spring/early summer movie season....there are a TON of reasons for fans not to be watching White Sox games, too. http://blog.chron.com/sportsmedia/2012/09/...low-for-astros/ I looked up the story Balta was referring to. When you're comparing an Astros team in the midst of a second season losing over 100 games in a row...in September....going head-to-head against a Texans game, it's not a complete surprise. I'm sure White Sox t.v. ratings the final two weeks of 2013 after it was obvious they weren't going to catch the Tigers were similarly bleak, especially on the weekend going up head-to-head against a Bears game. WTF?

As if we didn't know this already, Hawk is clueless. This is absolutely ridiculous, he doesn't even make any sense. You need to hear it, but for those that want a short summary... Some notes: Hawk saw the movie Moneyball but didn't read the book. Baseball is all about defense. Sabermetrics isn't ready yet and won't be for 40-50 years. Sabermetrics doesn't address defense, bunting, speed. TWTW is the most important stat. The Will To Win. Leadership is the most important thing, aka Peavy throwing 120 pitches or Konerko's leadership, not stats. Again, he emphasizes THE WILL TO WIN. That trumps all. The only thing that counts is a W. Wins are the most important stat for a pitcher. Gotta have the W. Pitching and defense is how you win. In case this hasn't been mentioned, TWTW is how you win baseball games. ********** He never addressed any good counter argument made, just kept spewing nonsense.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 25, 2013 -> 11:35 AM) "I think Moneyball is bulls***" Have you ever read it? "NO" /facepalmtoChina Moneyball is not ABOUT sabermetrics. Moneyball != sabermetrics. Beane USES sabermetrics IN Moneyball, but they are not one in the same. I feel like a broken record. Yup. Ex: Chad Bradford.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 25, 2013 -> 06:27 AM) Seven of the 27 previous President's Trophy winners won the Stanley Cup. Six of them failed to win a playoff series. Let's be part of the former not the latter please. Aka 91 against the North Stars...sigh.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 24, 2013 -> 09:22 PM) Who was Harrelson referring to about getting fired? The old-time Grady Fuson School scouts? Or the new wave GM's like DePodesta and J. P. Ricciardi? (Interestingly, both of those guys are now with the Mets and former A's GM Sandy Alderson.) That's exactly it. He just said it to say it. More guys have jobs due to sabermetrics than have lost them.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 24, 2013 -> 07:49 AM) The wife and I decided to order a Sodastream last week. It arrived yesterday. It's incredible - healthy, tasty, bubbly soda whenever you want. She had Diet Root Beer last night and I made Diet Orange. It tastes just like Crush. F*cking delicious. Healthy? I know nothing about it, but didn't think you'd use describe it using that word...?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 24, 2013 -> 11:03 AM) Those are all just terrible. They look like ClipArt Solution http://www.goodbullhunting.com/2013/4/23/4...ff-logo-problem

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-sat...359--ncaaf.html

I'll make you click the link to see what they named the new college football playoff: http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/...playoff-sources Jim Delaney: ""I'll be happy w whatever. Obviously I'm not great with names." LMAO.

Dogs everywhere are pissed. Both teams have July 1st open after the weekend series here.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 02:41 PM) My head is spinning from all these numbers. I always hated statistics. You can interpret them anyway you want. I just prefer to PLAY BALL! Holy s*** Hawk's been on the board this whole time and we didn't know it

No bad White Sox baseball tonight

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 09:47 AM) Hawk needs to go. He continually says Billy Bean wrote Money Ball.. which he didnt. He rips on B&B for always looking for ways to insult Reinsdorf... which is actually completely OPPOSITE of that they do. Hawk's buddies listen to imaginary radio

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Apr 22, 2013 -> 10:25 PM) http://www.getonhand.com/blogs/news/774333...ootout-pictures Incredible pictures of the gun battle between the cops and the brothers. That's incredible. Could you imagine watching TV or surfing the internet and suddenly you realize THEY are a few dozen feet in front of you? Holy s***, is this happening right now? I don't know that I would have been brave enough to watch/grab photos, and would have been beyond terrified that more bombs were about to go off right in front of my house. Also the whole time I thought the other brother drove away from the gunfight in the opposite direction. He drove at the officers, and was still able to get away without being killed or all the tires shot out or something. That's crazy.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 22, 2013 -> 05:40 PM) Sure, if you assume that everyone is at or below their averages. There is a lot of room for improvement for a lot of that line up. Keppinger and Dunn are so far under even their worst numbers it isn't even funny. Assuming they will stay there is just silly. There's not a lot of justification for some of these guys greatly improving right now. Dunn is basically a lost cause, even though his numbers will likely improve. Dunn is getting nowhere near a career average in anything important. Keppinger looks awful, hasn't walked yet either. Viciedo coming back from injury and swinging at everything that doesn't bounce (and some that do), Beckham same thing and not a good hitter when healthy unless he goes back in time. Just a bad lineup right now. Even if it improves a bit, which it will, it's still bad.

After all that...room for improvement on some, but not a whole lot. Plus age + injuries means a lot of these guys could get worse or stay as low as they are (Viciedo, Dunn, Konerko). Not a whole lot there.