DrunkBomber

Id probably say running the country is different than being called to the principals office.

How 'Birtherism' became Hillary's Waterloo

lol alright. Sorry for the inconvenience

A copy of a post in the republican thread with sources.

Well there is plenty of proof to back up the things Ive been saying for months. We have the worst and most corrupt candidates of all time trying to run on the policies of one of the worst president in recent history. When I first posted the DNC leaks everyone thought it was a real joke and claimed "politics as usual." Now we see that one of the dozens of people Obama sold jobs too is not only purposely distorting facts to influence the Presidential election. Hes also so ill equipped for the job that the DHS accidentally granted citizenship to over 800 immigrants with forged paper work. Meanwhile our President is helping pay for Mexico to build a southern border wall FOR MEXICO all while calling Trump racist for wanting one on our border. We have the main stream media manipulating content to help Hillary in the election, including a total media black out about the DNC leaks. Yesterday our military ACCIDENTALLY bombed the Syrian Army who is fighting AGAINST Isis, which also is causing huge issues with Russia. We have our own state department telling us that the some of the 33 billion dollars we are giving to Iran will be used to fund terrorism and is also making Iran more hostile towards us. If anyone wants pretty irrefutable proof that even if Hillary won she would be impeached very quickly watch the 12 minute video of Jason Chaffetz grilling the FBI that I posted. There is proof of multiple crimes that absolutely cannot be denied and the House Oversight Committee has no intentions of letting it go. We still have whatever wikileaks is gonna release as well. Things are really, really bad for Hillary right now.

From 538

Im curious where is everyone who mocks me anytime I criticize Clinton or Obama? No response to any of this stuff?

I almost forgot some Clinton Foundation fun. More Clinton Shenanigans in Haiti Emails show the State Department and the Clinton Foundation collaborated on policy.

They found him and have him alive and in custody

More than 800 immigrants mistakenly granted citizenship Just some more handy work by Jeh Johnson's DHS. The guy who bought his job from Obama for 561K.

Also here is more about the implications of us bombing the wrong people in Syria I almost forgot to include the Iran deal that people seemed to think was a good idea. John Kerry: Some sanctions relief money for Iran will go to terrorism State Department Finally Admits: Nuke Deal Might Be Making Iran's Behavior Worse

QUOTE (raBBit @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 01:15 AM) CBS News edits Bill Clinton's comments on Hillary Clinton's health. Ya, its pretty ridiculous. The msm has become a joke.

This is an interesting watch if anyone has time. It looks like this investigation was handled very shadily. But this guy isnt going to stop, he subpoena'd every piece of evidence with no redactions from the FBI on tv.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 18, 2016 -> 10:04 PM) Lol no,to both parts of that if then statement To elaborate, there is pretty much no way Trump doesn't say or do something stupid for the next six or so weeks. Just within the last few days he pulled that birther press conference stunt that seems to have royally pissed off the press, and now they're openly calling him out on his lies and actually using the word liar. More importantly, Clinton is still up solidly in all of the state polls she needs to be. PA still looks very solid democrat, and without that state Trump has only a handful of increasingly unlikely win scenarios compared to almost a thousand for Clinton. The electoral college map is just really tough even for a generic republican these days m Ya Im not claiming that he isnt going to do something stupid, I have no idea. Im just saying if he doesnt cause any self inflicted wounds and doesnt get demolished in the debates I think he is going to win. But again, Im not claiming either will happen. Jason Chaffetz is also pretty ruthlessly pursuing her server issue too. We have some crazy bomb situation going on the east coast and also had an unvetted refugee who claimed allegiance to Isis go to a mall in Minnesota and stab 8 people and then was killed by an off duty cop with a concealed carry license. Thats exactly the kind of stuff that is going to push more people to Trump. People want to act like Trump doesnt have a chance but the polls are trending in his favor in an enormous way. The democratic establishment picked Hillary to be the candidate in 2008. They made a huge mistake. Edit: Also because of all the stuff I listed before that nobody responded to. We just bombed the Syrian Army fighting AGAINST Isis yesterday. Jeh Johnson buys position as US Secretary of DHS from Obama and then is caught fabricating evidence about illegal immigration to protect Obama and influence the election. Apparently we are spending millions to build a border wall on Mexicos southern border to protect them from drug trafficking and money laundering. Justin Cooper admitted to the House oversight committee that him, Chelsea and Huma all had open access to her private server and classified info while the other 3 people subpoenad did what most innocent people do, plead the 5th. She violated a subpoena and preservation order and wiped 33000 emails with bleach bitt. She has committed several crimes. If she doe win she is going to get impeached. How can anyone refute that she has blatantly committed numerous crimes? And then we still might have something from Assange. Who knows if it will be significant but he might have something that buries her. Theres a reason everyone is trying to preemptively discredit Assange. Me, and a lot of people like me couldnt care less if this info came from Hitler himself if its authentic. If our elected leaders are participating in blatant corruption we have a right to know. http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/electi...this-in-a-week/

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 18, 2016 -> 08:53 PM) Like I said, it's disgraceful, but media members just have to have a Democrat in the oval office. Hillary is pure despicable yet we've got to have her eight years, followed by eight more of you know who. I don't get it. Why cover for her?? Trump's not going to win. If he doesnt do anything stupid Trump is going to win.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Sep 18, 2016 -> 08:51 AM) DHS accused of sitting on damning border report as immigration issue drives presidential race So DHS security suppressing info on how many illegal immigrants are getting across the border. You might remember Jeh Johnson from the unreported DNC leaks as the man who bought the job of US Secretary of Homeland Security from Obama for over $561k. Obama Administration Is Spending $75 Million Securing MEXICO’S Southern Border In a program called the Mérida Initiative The Mérida Initiative (also called Plan Mexico by critics, in reference to Plan Colombia) is a security cooperation agreement between the United States and the government of Mexico and the countries of Central America, with the declared aim of combating the threats of drug trafficking, transnational organized crime and money laundering. The assistance includes training, equipment and intelligence. Our military just bombed the Syrian Army who is fighting against Isis on accident Last night Hillary gets interviewed about the attacks in NY/NJ/MIN, calls them bombings. Less than a minute later criticizes Trump for calling them bombings before the details come out. CNN realizes her mistake and covers for her by editing her use of the word bombings from the interview.

DHS accused of sitting on damning border report as immigration issue drives presidential race So DHS security suppressing info on how many illegal immigrants are getting across the border. You might remember Jeh Johnson from the unreported DNC leaks as the man who bought the job of US Secretary of Homeland Security from Obama for over $561k. Obama Administration Is Spending $75 Million Securing MEXICO’S Southern Border In a program called the Mérida Initiative The Mérida Initiative (also called Plan Mexico by critics, in reference to Plan Colombia) is a security cooperation agreement between the United States and the government of Mexico and the countries of Central America, with the declared aim of combating the threats of drug trafficking, transnational organized crime and money laundering. The assistance includes training, equipment and intelligence. Our military just bombed the Syrian Army who is fighting against Isis on accident

Sorry, Im not simply going to take the media or Clinton supporters word for it anymore. It might not have came from her mouth, but the entire rumor came from people involved in her campaign. Either way, her bringing this up again is laughable. She hasnt been able to talk policy in weeks. This is a person who the current popular President and his very popular wife are campaigning for. She has her popular rapist husband campaigning for her. She has establishment politicians from both sides backing her, including people involved in the Bush administration (like that is a good thing). She has unlimited money and the support of wildly popular celebrities. She is being shielded by the media to the point that not a single network has even mentioned that they have proof democrats were selling government jobs to the highest bidder. Every single news outlet is in the tank for her, including Fox News, besides Hannity. She has been in politics her whole life as a first lady, SoS and senator. All of this and she is still plummeting in the polls. Unless Trump makes an ass out of himself again or she hits an absolute homerun in the first debate she is going to lose to an orange reality TV star. The dems made a monumental mistake anointing her the candidate.

There are several people in the media and politics claiming that Hillary's camp started the birther stuff and also started the rumors he was muslim. There is video of both morning Joe hosts, who loathe Trump, saying it absolutely started in her campaign in 08. Her campaign even fired a scape goat for spreading around an email claiming Obama wasnt born here. James Asher ‏@jimasher 16h16 hours ago Maryland, USA #CNN says #Hillary team in 2008 never raised #Obama's birth in #Kenya. Who is closer to #HRC than #SidBlumenthal, who told me face-to-face. The Clinton camp is running the worst presidential campaign in our lifetimes.

In other news someone on CNN said that the GOP was hacked too so hopefully we will get to see that as well.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 14, 2016 -> 04:58 PM) I guess no. I don't see it as a problem, because I assume the way to fix it is that a new administration would not be able to appoint anyone who had raised or donated money to them. Are we saying any of these people are unqualified for the position? What is the solution that would make you happy? Do you think there are some huge pool of really deserving commerce secretaries sitting around that don't get a shot because they don't have money to pay to get in? For better or worse, fundraising is a huge part of our political process which we have decided is okay, and if that is the case, the fundraisers are a pretty large part of the political team that we vote in. Look at this guys resume: http://www.allgov.com/officials/s%C3%A1nch...fficialid=29202 Seems like a pretty appropriate choice. Changing our constitution would solve the look of impropriety here, but I would guess the outcomes we receive are minimal. We all would probably just move to HEY LOOK HOW CORRUPT THEY ARE THEY ARE APPOINTING PEOPLE WHO GAVE SPEECHES FOR THEM. I dont know what the solution is but I dont think everyone saying its fine and we shouldnt be bothered by it is the answer. People not caring is what let it get to this point in the first place and it is likely to just keep getting worse. I just wish people would be a little more consistent. If this happened to Trump or even just the RNC this would be dominating the news today. Instead were getting reports that Hillary is in perfect health, Trump is overweight and bought a statue of himself and that his foreign business ties may be a conflict if he is President. The only info theyve mentioned from these leaks so far is the funny stuff Colin Powell said. Whether you think the details in these emails is a big deal or not it is important enough to be mentioned on the news.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Sep 14, 2016 -> 04:53 PM) I guess I don't understand what would be scandalous about that then. I just meant that it may be why the msm hasnt picked up the hacked email story yet.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 14, 2016 -> 04:52 PM) It looks like standard pr of pushing your message, every organization political or not will try to do this I know, thats what bothers me. The lack of transparency has gotten out of control.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 14, 2016 -> 04:43 PM) I guess I'm confused what you are talking about. I thought you are talking about the DNC leak. The DNC is a political organization that raises money for party candidates. It can provide baseline strategy for party politicians. It polls and provides research available to its candidates. There is also OFA, which became a lot more powerful and has caused a split. You are saying there is something really bad about fundraising and then setting up high fundraisers with ambassadorships, and I don't think that there is. It is less threatening then lots of fundraising with the explicit agreement thta you would not actually pass a bill you promised. Or agreement that you would never raise taxes, to that like. But our patronage laws largely work to keep people out of important appointed positions. I would like if Clinton is elected and the country finally does implement a public financing system and amended first amendment to say that free speech does not cover political contributions. But it is not illegal or controversial for a political group to try and try to implement communication plans to media anymore than PR for any other group. Pay to play: Hey, man, I'll support and pass through this new hospital plan if you give me 2500 and fundraise for me Hey lady, I'll appoint you as new US senator if you drop charges against me Not pay to play: Hello, thank you for supporting my campaign, I think you'd be great at a posiiton as ambassador to Trinidad. Controversial communication plan: Hello, off the record, here are a bunch of complete lies showing this country has nuclear weapons and are threatening to use it. really urgent Non controversial communication plan: We plan to show off how our candidate is a champion of the working class. Context is important. Actions are important. Actual impropriety and not the optics of impropriety are important. Its not even just ambassadorships, huge donations also bought Chairman of the FCC, a Secretary of Commerce and deputy attorney general. Is that not a problem to you?

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 14, 2016 -> 04:38 PM) Honestly the most relevant part of this should be these questions: What is the motive of the hackers? Why are the so worried about Hillary winning or conversely why are the trying so hard to help Trump win? That really is what people should be asking. If this was happening to Trump I would say the same thing. I am not really a fan of foreign interference in American politics, and I am actually somewhat concerned that if these hacks are successful in influencing the US election what that will mean for future elections. Believe me I wish they could do it to Trump and the GOP but I also couldnt care less who got it or why. Our government is giving out high paying jobs paid by tax dollars to the highest bidder. Every citizen should be bothered by that.