DrunkBomber

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 16, 2008 -> 05:37 PM) Yes. You've pretty much made it clear what your problem with it is and you've said it about 5 different ways, so I was just chiming in Thanks, I thought I was being pretty clear as well. Tex you may disagree with me but are you honestly not going to admit that youre wrong about my what my problem with the system is? YOU interpreted what I said terribly wrong, it wasnt even a confusing statement and you ran with it and even used it to say that I am a criminal in all aspects of my life. Are you a big enough man to admit you were wrong about it or are you going to keep trying to say you KNOW what I meant?

QUOTE (Texsox @ Aug 16, 2008 -> 05:32 PM) So what did you mean Mr. Clinton? How many times have I said its not about speeding and that Im not worried about it because I care about the actual ticket. Im NOT worried about it because I care about the actual ticket. How the hell do you come up with this meaning all I care about the fine is?

QUOTE (Texsox @ Aug 16, 2008 -> 05:29 PM) I quoted you. Twice. It is funny you didn't even know they photo the driver. And I really wish I had paid as much attention to your posts as you have mine, I'm flattered. You seem to know so much about what I have posted and I honestly can't remember any of your posts. Where I said I go around speeding and thats why Im upset about this? No you quoted something that you completely misinterpreted. The only thing they use on the pictures is the license plate so they know where to send the ticket. Do you honestly think someone is going to sort through the pictures and compare them to a picture of the owner of the car before they send out the tickets? Like I said, I have only really thrown my hat into about 5 or 6 threads passionately and youve been in every one of them and have always had a different view than me, thats how I remember. You on the other hand chime in on everything, even stuff you know nothing about, so I wouldnt expect you to remember what everyone posts. Are you going to find where I said I go around speeding and Im upset because I dont want to pay fines or admit you were wrong about that?

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 16, 2008 -> 04:55 PM) No. Out of curiosity, youre saying that Tex interpreted what I wrote incorrectly and thats not what that meant right?

QUOTE (Texsox @ Aug 16, 2008 -> 05:25 PM) Really? Would you feel better if there was also a picture of the driver? If they had a camera that could not only take a picture but identify who was driving the car and that person got the ticket even if it wasnt their car then yes I would feel better. Since they cant, no it doesnt make a difference. Did you give up trying to justify your bs lies about what I said?

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Aug 16, 2008 -> 05:15 PM) How many times have I said its not about speeding and that Im not worried about it because I care about the actual ticket. Understand? The issue I have with this isnt because I care about the actual ticket. Is this seriously what youre using as the basis for your argument? Also, the cameras take pictures of the license plates not the people.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Aug 16, 2008 -> 05:13 PM) The camera will have a picture of you. That's why it is important what you look like. Of course in an ideal world everyone that goes to court will be guilty. But in this country, some people have to go to court when they are innocent. It's what you wrote. Care to explain what you meant? You said you don't care about the speeding, you care about the ticket. And I'm still reeling from being called a cowboy, and the Tony Robbins comment. That cut deep. How many times have I said its not about speeding and that Im not worried about it because I care about the actual ticket. Understand? The issue I have with this isnt because I care about the actual ticket. Is this seriously what youre using as the basis for your argument?

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Aug 16, 2008 -> 04:58 PM) Nice try but no. That means its not the specific law or fine that I personally am concerned with. Its the flaws in the system. Just so you know, I guarantee you that you were the only one who might think that, which I doubt you do. I would assume its a ploy to try and justify your bs.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Aug 16, 2008 -> 04:50 PM) Right here. It's not about the speeding (crime), you care about the actual ticket (fines because they go to a corrupt governor). Nice try but no.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Aug 16, 2008 -> 04:47 PM) Perhaps if you loan your car to someone that looks exactly like you and who would not go to court and admit they were the person driving. I don't have any friends like that, perhaps you do. What does what the person looks like have to do with it? WHy should you have to go to court if you werent speeding?

Tex, another great example of skipping over things. Id like you to find where I said I speed and Im upset about it because I dont want to pay fines and get caught. Since you based your argument on that, please find it or shut up about it. I wasnt using the lady in California or illegal immigration to justify anything about speeding. I was using it to show how much of a hypocrite you are and basically point out how pathetic your argument was, and still is. Considering I never said speeders shouldnt have to pay fines did I?

QUOTE (Texsox @ Aug 16, 2008 -> 05:35 PM) I THINK SPPEDERS SHOULD BE CHARGED AND PAY A FINE! Thats it. You wont acknowledge it because its a good point and I would actually like anyone reading this to tell me whats wrong with it. So far your case against this simple concept involves california car buyers and illegal immigration. For the record, my firearms travel in cases and locked in my truck, a seat belt would be redundant. Did Tony Robbins teach you that?

QUOTE (Texsox @ Aug 16, 2008 -> 05:35 PM) I THINK SPPEDERS SHOULD BE CHARGED AND PAY A FINE! Thats it. You wont acknowledge it because its a good point and I would actually like anyone reading this to tell me whats wrong with it. So far your case against this simple concept involves california car buyers and illigal immigration. What if youre not driving or what if your car wasnt even the one speeding genius. Thats the flaw in the system. Give up already, you got nothing

QUOTE (Texsox @ Aug 16, 2008 -> 03:50 PM) Basic so I can understand Speaking of dazzling, look what you have brought to this conversation. The lady in California. My bottom line position was that con men get people to do things to take their money. I said the lady could have been a victim of a con. You mentioned this as why I should not support enforcement of speeding laws. When some widow is bilked out of her life savings by a con man, you say hey, the old lady had it coming, personal responsibility, I believe the government should bail her out. Again, why did you bring this up? Because in the car salesman case I don't think someone should be responsible, I should never think anyone should ever be held responsible in any other area? GMAFB I said we need a guest worker program, tied to jobs, instead of rounding up millions of workers are crippling our agriculture industry. You twisted that into I shouldn't be in favor of any laws being enforced? Whoa, dazzling I agree corruption is a huge problem in Illinois. Hell, for the sake of this discussion, I'll say it is the worst, most corrupt state in the Union with your Governor is the worst, most corrupt Governor ever to hold office in the history of mankind. Now tell me how that has anything to do with enforcing laws and paying fines? And I understand you don't care about speeding, only if you get caught and receive a ticket. QFT: That tells me a lot about your ethics and morals. You don't mind breaking the law, you just don't want to get caught and pay a fine in the worst, most corrupt state in the Union. And since you are so consistent in your life, this must mean you don't mind breaking other laws, as long as you don't get caught. Parking tickets are a great analogy of the owner of the vehicle getting ticketed even though there is no proof they were in control of the vehicle at the time the ticket was written. Before you question my morals why dont you read what I said. I have never said I go around speeding or that I go around breaking laws. Its irrelevant and you keep bringing it up because you have no argument. You have come nowhere near addressing anything Ive said of importance and keep harping on stuff that is insignificant because it is the only way you can respond without admitting you dont know what youre talking about. ITS NOT ABOUT BEING ABLE TO BREAK LAWS, IM NOT SAYING I BREAK LAWS, I DONT DISAGREE WITH SPEEDING LAWS, I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MONEY FROM SPEEDING TICKETS GOING TO THE STATE. Ready, here it comes so you can dance around it again. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A CRIMINAL LIKE BLOWJOBAVICH USING A FLAWED SYSTEM TO TRY AND RAISE MONEY WHEN THERE IS NO DOUBT THE MONEY IS NEEDED FOR SHADY REASONS. Thats it. You wont acknowledge it because its a good point and I would actually like anyone reading this to tell me whats wrong with it. Since youre such an expert in my life, FIND ME IN THIS WHOLE THREAD WHERE I SAID I GO AROUND SPEEDING, PLEASE FIND IT. IF YOURE GOING TO ATTACK MY MORALS AND USE THAT POINT AS A REASON AT LEAST SHOW ME WHERE ITS COMING FROM. Look how bad youre trying to twist my words around to make it look like Im saying things Im not. Im calling you out. Find where I said that because Im not going to have some guy who doesnt know me say I have no morals and use something that I never said as a reason. Every single time I state my point you go back to your third grade answers that have no relevance here. "And since you are so consistent in your life, this must mean you don't mind breaking other laws, as long as you don't get caught. " SHow me where you drew this conclusion from. This is my problem with you. You want so bad to try and be right on things you fabricate stuff just so you can stay in every debate even if you have no idea what youre talking about. So since you dont agree with me you make things up and change my words. I said the lady could have been a victim of a con. You mentioned this as why I should not support enforcement of speeding laws. - I'll say it is the worst, most corrupt state in the Union with your Governor is the worst, most corrupt Governor ever to hold office in the history of mankind. Hmm, the lady was a victim of a con by conmen, you call blago a criminal and he is trying to change a law allowing these cameras to happen to generate money for his budget. So both stories have "conmen/criminals" who had an agenda to make money. In both cases nobody forced the victims to do anything but only one has to be held accountable for their actions? Brilliant. Im not even going to ask you how to solve the problem of tickets being sent to people on accident or if they werent driving because, come on, theres no way you can come up with anything. As far as ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. I dont care what youre for, as of right now there are millions of them here ILLEGALLY. Now just because you think a better guest worker program should be in place should we let them slide? As of right now is what theyre doing illegal? Is it ok because youre for a guest worker program? To give you another example of how pathetic your tactics to make me look like a criminal are : I said we need a guest worker program, tied to jobs, instead of rounding up millions of workers are crippling our agriculture industry. You twisted that into I shouldn't be in favor of any laws being enforced? "Im" twisting thing huh, look what you said there about yourself...then lets look at what you said about me : And I understand you don't care about speeding, only if you get caught and receive a ticket. QFT: That tells me a lot about your ethics and morals. You don't mind breaking the law, you just don't want to get caught and pay a fine in the worst, most corrupt state in the Union. And since you are so consistent in your life, this must mean you don't mind breaking other laws, as long as you don't get caught. So me using your stance on immigration, which you reiterated brilliantly in your point, as an analogy is "twisting" your words and generalizing but you manage to start a statement with a lie, "And I understand you don't care about speeding, only if you get caught and receive a ticket." and you conclude your pathetic lie with this " And since you are so consistent in your life, this must mean you don't mind breaking other laws, as long as you don't get caught. " If this is what you need to do to impress people on a message board than you can have it, its pathetic and I feel sorry for you. So unless you have a reason why Im wrong for questioning an illegal flawed ticketing system ordered by the "most corrupt governer in the union" save your bulls*** instead of making stuff up. I know you dont think I know anything because of my screen name and because I dont go to all the self help seminars like you but I can tell you that there havent been many issues Im passionate enough about to continue to argue them on here but when I do choose to chime in you simply dont have the tools to be in the arena which is apparent as shown by the reasons above. For spite I will be saying I told you so to you when you get all huffy because your shotgun has to wear a seatbelt in the front seat of your pick up truck cowboy.

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 15, 2008 -> 11:12 PM) Did I miss something? I didn't realize that when you lose this badly it counts as more or something. Can't win them all. We had several bloop hits, Gavin was on the edge of giving up a ton of runs at all times. We had some things go our way early, it isn't as if we thoroughly dominated them and pissed it all away at once. This is a game we deserved to lose, just like many others. You must have missed a lot, I wont claim doomsday but if you dont see the flaws this team has youre delusional. This should have been a win.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Aug 15, 2008 -> 10:09 PM) Ari Fleischer working for the Packers is another one. I will say though, anyone who would change their vote because of this probably isnt wanted from their party anyway. McCain will win by a landslide

Never, unless youre my father, Ive been through fraternity beatings, getting jumped, etc. Never has one person had the best if me.

Im gonna say the same thing that Ive said to any Marte fan. Dotel blows, he costs us games. When Joe Carter said the Sox have the best bullpen hes ever seen shows you, baseball is at a terrible state when a great says a teams weakness is the best in baseball history.

McCain will win and its not going to be that close. Call your bookies and say the DrunkBomber sent you.

They were talking about this on Maxim radio on Wednesday. Theyre supposed to have a press conference today and display the body and announce the DNA results. Georgia cant catch a break, first the Russians and now Bigfoot

Irish

QUOTE (chimpy2121 @ Aug 14, 2008 -> 01:19 PM) FSU. They have a great Sports Management program, can't wait to get into an internship next summer somewhere. Thats what I was trying to get into at SIU and they ended up trying to stick me in the law program with a minor in marketing.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Aug 13, 2008 -> 09:04 PM) What about my legs, Charlie Murphy!?!?! Why would I go and mash mud into someones couch on purpose... ...ya, I remember mashing mud into his couch on purpose

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Aug 13, 2008 -> 08:58 PM) Yeah, Swisher hasn't helped us win any games so I'd rather have the guy on the DL in Sweeney. Gio, on the other hand, has 1 whole more start than Broadway in his MLB career. And in 1/3 of an inning less than Gio, Broadway has a .87 ERA compared to Gio's 4.09. Yeah, no one in their right mind. f*** yo couch

QUOTE (Texsox @ Aug 12, 2008 -> 09:17 AM) Liberals want the government to control every aspect? Let's review. The liberal is saying don't speed and there will be no fines to pay. The conservative is saying people will break the law and speed and will have to pay fines? Who can't control themselves? The governor is corrupt, so don't enforce laws? Brilliant! Drunk, are you telling me conservatives are against the enforcement of laws? The end user can remove the tags from a mattress. But you are correct in one thing, with a Governor like this Illinois can't defend anything. Youre twisting of everything Im saying may dazzle some on here but you can save it on me. You can continue to pick and choose your stances or harp on insignificant points in every topic but you havent added anything to this conversation. You keep saying "Well dont speed" and you ignore everything else said. How many times have I said its not about speeding and that Im not worried about it because I care about the actual ticket. Also, where did I say say its ok to break the law because I disagree with it. *cough* illegal immigration *cough* This is also coming from someone who thought a woman who leased a car should be bailed out by the government because she couldnt afford it and you huffed at anyone asking for people to be held accountable for their own actions. PICK A STANCE ON SOMETHING See if you can follow me if I put it very basic. The camera system is flawed and their is absolute certainty there will be tons of conflicts with people getting tickets when they werent driving (parking tickets are a terrible analogy so save it, those are placed on the car at the time on the incident, not mailed to you later) Since its obvious you have no idea what goes on in Illinois government, google Blagojevich corruption and see what comes up, this isnt a conspiracy theory I have, this guy is a criminal and I doubt anyone who lives in Illinois is going to claim Im out of line. The guys budgets are so messed up that this state is going to be in unfixable for years. The last thing this guy needs is more money. The guy is also up for a raise soon. Believe me, when you start talking about the injustice of having to put a seat belt on your shotgun when its in the front seat Im not gonna chime in because Im not from Texas. So you can continue to make light of the fact that corruption is a problem in Illinois, but it is a huge problem. Also, Im not saying they shouldnt enforce the laws or that I even disagree with them. If they want to have cops running radar more aggressively than thats fine. I would say the same thing you would, well dont speed if you dont want a ticket.