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No matter. Like I said, this aint my party. Just my opinion.

LMAO!!!!

Civilians, Military, Indians, etc... I'm glad I choose to use "innocent human beings".

What is so confusing? I made the thread for the site to remember. Not to be a platform for a politician to make a statement. Via you, it turned into the latter.

QUOTE(My Dixie Normus @ Sep 12, 2006 -> 04:05 AM) Frank Thomas was a cancer in the locker room and I am glad he is gone. Bulls***. Cows***, too.

QUOTE(whitesoxin @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 09:48 PM) Our history is referring to United States history. I don't find his statement outrageous or uncalled for. I do not understand why you are trying to downplay what happened. Your history doesn't exist outside your existance? And Rex is far from downplaying it. It's all about perspective. And it's his perspective. It seems you are trying to downplay that...

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Sep 12, 2006 -> 12:59 AM) Or they just don't know yet. ^^. He just died Sunday. Prelim results are saying massive heart attack. I have no idea how things work in the Bahamas, but I would guess the autopsy will be performed today. Poor kid. Hopefully his passing was swift and painless.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 04:26 PM) Wow, 2 games back in the WC, 3.5 games back in the frickin' division which two weeks ago seemed out of reach, with like 19 games left to play. Yeah, things are bad and I feel the doom. Ahh.. so now that you've moved out of Illinois your true fairweather fan colors are showing..

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 04:20 PM) Its funny, I think part of it is stress. Most people living out there in the backcountry of NM, AZ, etc., have very simple lives. Less stress of many sorts (though more stress to survive). Note that many counties in Colorado are among the highest life spans, and many states are out west in general as well. Better weather, more recreation opportunities, and a more relaxed lifestyle. And, for example, why would New Mexico (low income levels, highest incidence of alcoholism) be ranked above Illinois with its strong healthcare and high income levels? Lifestyle? Weather? Chile peppers (helps the heart)? I think use city folk are burning ourselves out. Oh I definitely agree 100% it's the stress free life that makes the difference. They have so little. They do so little (by that I mean they don't work 80 hours a week). Money isn't the root for them. And they seem to be totally happy and content. It's amazing.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 04:11 PM) Wow. American Indians in the west, many of whom live on reservations in squalor and who tend to drink and smoke a lot, outlive many black subgroups. That's pretty amazing. That did not surprise me at all. They may live in squalor.. but they see happy as clams.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060911/ap_on_...rican_longevity Some examples from the article... Asian-Americans, average per capita income of $21,566, have a life expectancy of 84.9 years. _Northland low-income rural whites, $17,758, 79 years. _Middle America (mostly white), $24,640, 77.9 years. _Low income whites in Appalachia, Mississippi Valley, $16,390, 75 years. _Western American Indians, $10,029, 72.7 years. _Black Middle America, $15,412, 72.9 years. _Southern low-income rural blacks, $10,463, 71.2 years. _High-risk urban blacks, $14,800, 71.1 years.

Pretty amazing.. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060911/ap_on_sc/space_shuttle

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060911/ap_on_...world_remembers 5 years after 9/11, many angry at U.S. ELAINE GANLEY, Associated Press Writer 21 minutes ago PARIS - The nations of the world joined Monday in solemn remembrance of Sept. 11 — but for many, resentment of the United States flowed as readily as tears. Critics say Americans have squandered the goodwill that prompted France's Le Monde newspaper to proclaim "We are all Americans" that somber day after the attacks, and that the Iraq war and other U.S. policies have made the world less safe in the five years since. Heads bowed in moments of silence for the 3,000 killed in the attacks on New York and Washington — while a top al-Qaida leader issued new warnings in a videotape. And dissident voices brushed the portrait of a planet that has traded in civil liberties and other democratic rights in its war on terror. Even German Chancellor Angela Merkel — an advocate of closer ties with Washington — had veiled criticism of the United States, saying: "The ends cannot justify the means." "In the fight against international terror ... respect for human rights, tolerance and respect for other cultures must be the maxim of our actions, along with decisiveness and international cooperation," she said. The international landscape has changed irreversibly since terrorists hijacked four airliners in 2001, crashing two into New York's World Trade Center, one into the Pentagon and another into a Pennsylvania field. Allies in the U.S.-led war on terrorism that the attacks unleashed renewed their resolve Monday to fight fanaticism, while militants blasted Washington's response as ineffective and pledged continued resistance. In a video broadcast Monday, al-Qaida No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri warned that Persian Gulf countries and Israel would be al-Qaida's next targets and he called on Muslims to step up their resistance against the United States. He accused the governments of Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia of supporting Israel's war against Hezbollah in Lebanon. Another video posted on the Internet, purportedly by al-Qaida, showed previously unseen footage of a smiling bin Laden and other commanders in a mountain camp apparently planning the Sept. 11 attacks. Iraqi President Jalal Talabani wrote President Bush on behalf of the Iraqi people, expressing condolences to the families of Sept. 11 victims. "On this sad and memorable day, I would like to reiterate the gratitude of the people of Iraq for the people of America and for your leadership," Talabani wrote. "The people of Iraq will never forget those who helped them in getting rid of the most brutal and terrorist regime of Saddam Hussein." New Zealand's Prime Minister Helen Clark joined many when she said: "No, we're not more secure since 9/11." Clark said more should be done to reach out to moderate states and leaders in the Islamic world to encourage understanding between different peoples, and to help end the sense of alienation and exclusion among some young Muslims that fuels extremism. In Europe, struck by terrorist attacks three times since Sept. 11, commemorations touched each nation. Bells tolled in Rome's city hall square. "9/11 will be in our memory forever," said Rome Mayor Walter Veltroni during a ceremony in the a downtown piazza designed by Michelangelo. "We all remember where we were, what we were doing, what our first reaction was. In London, bouquets of white roses and yellow carnations were piled in a memorial garden where the names of 67 Britons killed in the New York attacks are inscribed — and where a steel girder from the wreckage of the World Trade Center is buried. Relatives tearfully remembered their dead. "It doesn't get any easier, but our minds are much calmer, and we can think through all the events without being flooded by tears and sadness," said Adrian Bennett, 55, whose 29-year-old son, Oliver, was among the victims. At a 38-nation Asia-Europe summit in Helsinki, Finland, leaders stood in silence in a circle. The stock exchanges in Nordic and Baltic countries were observing two minutes of silence to honor the victims of the world's worst terror attacks. France's President Jacques Chirac, in Helsinki, reiterated in a written message to Bush his nation's "friendship" in the fight against terrorism. A week after the Sept. 11 attacks, Chirac flew over the World Trade Center site — the first foreign leader to pay personal condolences. That solidarity quickly dissipated into rancor in the buildup to the Iraq war, when Chirac led opposition to Bush's plans. Israel's Haaretz daily expressed disappointment and cynicism in an op-ed piece that said: "This is Sept. 11 five years later: a political tool in the hands of the Bush administration." In Southeast Asia, U.S. and Philippine troops fighting Islamic extremists in the jungles prayed for peace and safety, as other remembrances took place in Japan, Australia, Finland, South Korea, Thailand and Indonesia. Afghan President Hamid Karzai, who won the country's first post-Taliban election in 2004, expressed the appreciation of the Afghan people to the U.S. for the "sacrifices of your sons and daughters" in rebuilding his country. But on the streets in the capital, Kabul, many Afghans grumbled that they had not seen much improvement. Despite about 20,000 U.S. forces fighting al-Qaida and Taliban fighters in Afghanistan, and about the same number of NATO troops, and billions in aid, a resurgent Taliban resistance has shaken the country, while corruption has stymied development. NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer led a solemn military ceremony outside the alliance's headquarters to remember the victims. A lone bugler played "Taps" while a ceremonial guard, drawn from each of the 26 NATO member nations, lowered national flags to half-staff in tribute before those gathered outside observed a minute of silence. "Terrorism remains a threat to all of us ... this is why we are in Afghanistan, the cradle of 9/11," de Hoop Scheffer said, calling on NATO nations to "strengthen our alliance politically and militarily to meet this new scourge." In Pakistan, considered a major ally in the U.S.-led war on terror, newspapers ran bleak-toned opinion columns and editorials criticizing Western anti-terror policies and attitudes.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 03:31 PM) LOL, this conversation is getting heated. I wish I would have known what was said You didn't miss anything.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 03:10 PM) To borrow Kalapse's description of Freel... "He's an alcoholic drug user with multiple DUI convictions and has an imaginary midget named Farney who lives in his f***ing head." That's the knock on him. Not that he tries too hard. Whoa... that sounds like a personal attack!!!

Maybe he could have remembered that all walks of life vote and perhaps should have addressed all Americans and not just his political party. No matter. This aint my party I'm just a visitor.

QUOTE(The Critic @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 02:49 PM) Just curious, why did you put died in quotes? Because a cause has not been determined. He could have been "murdered", "od'd" , or just plain "died".

No offense... But I had hoped politics would stay absent from this thread.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060911/ap_on_...icole_smith_son Good grief. Every time she tries to get her life back on track she gets kicked in the face. No matter how crazy she was, she was sure that it did not effect him and he seemed to be a good kid (good in school, stayed out of the limelight, etc). for her. Anna Nicole Smith's 20-year-old son dies By JESSICA ROBERTSON, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 9 minutes ago NASSAU, Bahamas - The 20-year-old son of Anna Nicole Smith has been found dead in the Bahamas, where the former reality TV star and Playboy playmate gave birth to a baby girl days earlier. Authorities had not determined what caused the death of Daniel Wayne Smith, whose body was found Sunday morning, said Robin Bonnema, a spokeswoman for Trimspa, the diet products company that has been endorsed by Smith. Bonnema had no other details, and calls to Smith's lawyer, Howard K. Stern of Santa Monica, Calif., were not immediately returned. Bonnema declined to provide details, saying only that Smith died "in his bed." A statement on Smith's Web site said the son died suddenly. "We have yet to learn the cause of death but do not believe that drugs or alcohol were a factor," the statement said. "Anna Nicole is absolutely devastated by the loss of her son. He was her pride and joy and an amazing human being." Walter Evans, a spokesman for the Royal Bahamian Police Force, would say only that the son of an undisclosed celebrity had been found in a room of the private Doctor's Hospital in Nassau. Anna Nicole Smith, 38, gave birth to a healthy 6 pound, 9 ounce girl at the hospital on Thursday, her Web site said. Her son had traveled to the Caribbean country "to share in the joy of his baby sister," the statement said. "Please do not make any press inquiries at this time so that Anna Nicole can grieve in peace." Smith married Texas oil tycoon J. Howard Marshall II in 1994, when she was 26 and he was 89. He died the following year. In March, the Supreme Court upheld Smith's right to a bequeathment of $474 million, though legal battles with Marshall's son, Pierce Marshall, have continued. Daniel Smith had small roles in her movies "Skyscraper" and "To the Limit." He also appeared several times on the E! reality series "The Anna Nicole Show." Bonnema said she did not know the name of Daniel Smith's father or that of the baby girl.

Balta and Kalapse both, I'm not demanding anything. It's all opinion and speculation because what improves something in one person does not mean it does the same in another. There are tests to both sides, yet more of them have evidence to support that they do not improve eyesight, and those that say they do improve it have nothing more to go on than the guy saying "yep.. I can see better." And I'll just note that Game of Shadows says he used HGH.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 11:03 AM) Just doing a quick search on the net this is really the only online evidence I can find. But there is evidence that HGH can improve eyesight, since human growth hormone promotes the growth of vital organs including the eyes. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7286234/site/newsweek/page/2/ OK.. can ya find the link that states the flax seed - what Barry admitted to using - does the same? HGH is an entirely different animal, and along WITH a steriod regimine may improve eyesite.

QUOTE(Soxy @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 11:07 AM) Just a general question but, do all states have the lottery? No. Though I don't know which ones don't. And google doesn't seem to have a list of all that do or all that don't unless I'm just not using the right key words. User error this morning..

QUOTE(The Critic @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 10:37 AM) but who knows if that's true, and if it is, who really knows if that's related to the roids? I'm going to guess those who have done the research. There is evidence that they speed up recovery from eye surgery, but not that they make normal eyesight better.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 10:04 AM) My friend's wife-to-be died in the WTC that day. We still talk about it sometimes, but he's doing all right. We know 3 friends of friends who knew someone who died that day but no one directly. Very glad to hear he's doing well.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 09:40 AM) I agree that calling it a holiday trivializes what it means to society, but I dont have a problem with a day of remembrence that doesnt involve everyone getting a day off. There are plenty of holidays that people get to take a day off that remember wars and independence, we dont need another one. Agree regarding the day off. Not necessary. I think what took place this morning and what has been done the past 4 years is appropriate.