Steff

LOL.. whiner? You've been whining since Wednesday about me "picking on you". Baby... waaa, waa, waa.

I called you out on your two faced comments regarding your hatred for Sox players and your ignorant posts and that's insulting you? Maybe you need to get some reading comprehension refresher courses..?

TWO excellent posts by Clujer!!!

LOL.. you're not offended but FIVE days later you're STILL talking about it. You poor, poor, thing. BTW.. Clujer, excellent post up there about people getting offended.

I think he still does... The better comment is that he was in LOVE with him until he found out that he tried to trade Frank... LAST YEAR.. LOLOL

I made reference to it twice. Look thru my posts (heck I quoted em for ya after that) and youll see em. But I aint finding em again. And what question about Ray and JB? That they were friends? They used to eat out together and they were described by the same hated media as good friends... Did you ever see them eat out together? Nevermind.. don't bother answering. But for the record.. Frank, JB, and Ray are NOT good friends. JB hasn't hung out with Frank since he got engaged (before he got traded) and Ray never hung out with him socially.

By the way.. there are not "millions" of suicides committed by people who have no one. I can't get the exact stats right now (f'ing firewall restriction at work! ) but most suicides are committed by middle to upper class professionals. Most are females - and the majority of them are mothers. I don't even think there were a million suicides in 2002, but I could be wrong. Although I'm pretty sure the number is a LOT less. K the numbers are wrong, the point isnt. How can the point not be wrong? You said what about the millions who are alone? That group makes up less than 5% of total suicides. The female # is something like 74%. These are females with children. How do you kill yourself when you have a child to take care of? How will that child survive? Do you not put your childs well being ahead of your own? And if not.. aren't you selfish? I've seen your point.. now take a look at mine.

I said at least a couple times (to cw I believe) that I understood his point and that for ME and my experiences it was selfish. To think any other way would make me a complete retard.

By the way.. there are not "millions" of suicides committed by people who have no one. I can't get the exact stats right now (f'ing firewall restriction at work! ) but most suicides are committed by middle to upper class professionals. Most are females - and the majority of them are mothers. I don't even think there were a million suicides in 2002, but I could be wrong. Although I'm pretty sure the number is a LOT less.

Oh for the love of God.. did I say they were ALL selfish? Did you not see me say "IMO" about 100 times in this thread? WTF Bmr..?

There ya go again.

Roman I just have to say.. you make me laugh out loud!!!

So that makes them best friends?

Yeah... you refrenced it in a previous post? How about answering my question relating to JB and Ray. I know for a FACT you are completely full of s*** on both counts.

Absolutely friggin right! Like I said earlier.. unless you've lived it in some way you can not have a true understanding. steff not every view of suicide is from the "victims left behind" view. Thats all you insist on seeing. When you get to the point of hurting so bad, that you kill yourself, other people SHOULDNT matter. Until you are there, or ever are there, your view really doesnt count. Bmr.. maybe you should read a little better. I HAVE been there. Then i dont understand how u can think its selfish. When it comes to the people i love, I am the most selfless person you would ever meet. The times i have been hurt, and they have been many, I fought through it. However, if it had been just a little worse, and i had actually done the act, believe me, the reason would NOT have been selfish. Bmr.. I never said my opinion is law. Based on me and my personal experiences, to me it WAS selfish. As far as me personally.. I did not have a gun to my head or anything like that (actually it was a very dark time after I lost both of my grandfathers within 5 weeks of eachother) and I was taking complete care of my grandmother. Things were VERY hard and one reason I snapped out of it was because if I had done something stupid it would have been my grandmother who had to resolve things for me (my parents were still living out of state at the time). To me.. had I decided to end my life, my grandmother would have been left to deal with the "mess". To me, that would have been selfish of me to just not care about what she would have to deal with. Am I making any sense here..?

I didnt like Ray and JB because they were Thomas' friends, I liked Ray because he was a great player and fun to watch and I liked JB, even tho he wasnt the best pitcher, because he always pitched his heart out, unlike Buehrle. The fact that they were Frank's friends just got them bonus points... Buerhle doesn't pitch his heart out?! Damn, pass me what you are smoking. He cares more about St Louis. He doesnt want to be here. JB always tried his best and I loved that... JB always tried his best...?? JB blamed everyone BUT himself for his failures. Do you pay attention to the Sox at all?

Stay out of my personal life you little crap! You dont know me and I dont know you (dont particularly want to) so dont make conclusions about me. Shut up and leave me the heck alone. I dont give a flyin flip what you think... Just basing my OPINIONS on the way you present yourself here. If you weren't so rude and a habitual liar I wouldn't be able to make these comments now would I. You made your bed honey.. I'm just helping you hop up into it.

Yo.. Einstein.. how about keeping your replies directed to the post I was responding to! And proof read your own posts before you call someone illiterate

I didnt like Ray and JB because they were Thomas' friends, I liked Ray because he was a great player and fun to watch and I liked JB, even tho he wasnt the best pitcher, because he always pitched his heart out, unlike Buehrle. The fact that they were Frank's friends just got them bonus points... Umm.. how do you know they were/are Frank's friends?

Nope, nope, nope. nope... And you wonder why people don't like you. You can't have a discussion without breaking out the big words. Grow up little one. And stop backpedaling. Perhaps you should think about a career in politics rather than the military.

Media exxageration. Frank and PK never were fighting, the media just overexxagerated. Which is why I hate the media. And I never said anything about the clubhouse relationships of Franks. I just talked about how he gives to charity (a lot that is, I aint talking about givin dimes to bums on the street) and how I really like that. I hope I can meet Frank some day... Wait a second.. just the other day you hated Paul cause of him and Frank fighting last year. Now they were never fighting..? And yes you did talk about Frank's clubhouse relationships. You said Ray and JB were Frank's "best friends". I didn't see anything about charity in your post.. Whhhheeeewwwww.... there's that wind again.

You're such a little ignorant ass.

But that isn't what you said. Quit changing your story. LOL.. BUSTED!!!

That's you getting knocked on the head for calling him a short stop.

Absolutely friggin right! Like I said earlier.. unless you've lived it in some way you can not have a true understanding. steff not every view of suicide is from the "victims left behind" view. Thats all you insist on seeing. When you get to the point of hurting so bad, that you kill yourself, other people SHOULDNT matter. Until you are there, or ever are there, your view really doesnt count. Bmr.. maybe you should read a little better. I HAVE been there.