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QUOTE(StrangeSox @ Jun 30, 2007 -> 12:22 PM) I'm not happy with Buehrle not being resigned. Not at all. However, the final judgement on this won't be in for a few years. I have no doubt that Mark will continue to be one of the best, most dependable, and least injury-prone pitchers in the game. If KW can get some amazing prospects in return for him, I won't complain. However, I really, really doubt that they'll get near the equivalence of Buehrle's perfomance from whoever they trade for. I'm all for dumping aging veterans and some other good pieces that can be replaced, but I don't see how the White Sox end up winning on this deal down the road. BINGO. WINNAH. As they saying goes... "a bird in the hand..."

When I saw this in the Sun-Times this morning my heart sank. I feel sick. This is the worst I have felt as a Sox fan for years. Retaining Buehrle was the one bright side I could see to a season which is the worst I can remember (please don't bottle me with stories of the 80s/90s clubs--I know). For a team that hit the highest of heights in '05, it is nothing short of remarkable how far and how fast we've fallen. From champs to last place in two seasons. I thought '05 was going to be the beginning of an era of at LEAST being a contender. As for Buehrle, when you have a team that apparently is dying because of aging veterans who don't have the legs or the will to win, the idea that we're letting go of a PROVEN winner, workhorse and who is ONLY 28 YEARS OLD over a NTC is just appalling. Buehrle is the best of both worlds: young AND experienced AND not prone to injury. Why you would not build your rotation around him and Garland is beyond me. He is the only one--the ONLY one--I see in the clubhouse that still exudes that '05 attitude and enthusiasm. I'm tired of people looking at checkbooks and fantasy baseball scenarios and not taking into account other factors that OBVIOUSLY made us what we were in 2005. This was the one thing I was looking forward to this season at the very least. I also notice that Buehrle has made all the concessions, concessions he did not HAVE to make. That man can RAKE it in once he's through with us, and everybody knows it. For him to drop price and agree to four instead of five... I am so over KW and this whole year. Really. Great: let's get rid of him and hope that we bring up (LOL) some LHP that will give us the package the way Buehrle did--what are the chances of that happening, with KW's record? PFft. Dark days ahead. Ain't it amazing that Greg Walker still has a job but now apparently Buehrle is a goner? f*** this.

That's because there's nothing to talk about right now re: Buehrle, sadly.

Ichiro is my man-crush for the Sox in 2008. God would that be sweet.

Er I could be wrong but I think they go earlier than normal for Cubs/Sox.

Oh gawd waiting until the end of the month Steff? I can't do it. I just can't!

Since we're on the subject, I have a 101 question. I was discussing with a friend the another night my frustration with us not being able to capitalize beyond 2005 (remember all the talk of a potential dynasty? Pfft). How is it that clubs like Boston/NYY or Minny, year after year, are always contenders? Even Detroit--unlike us--doesn't seem to be having the dropoff that we did post-WS. Is it really just that they have money (or the Twinks have a farm club)? How come we can never seem to do that? After all, in seven years we've only made it into and beyond the playoffs once. QUOTE(iamshack @ Jun 29, 2007 -> 01:35 PM) No, it hasn't. But I am willing to at least imagine that perhaps we've had our "second-half slide" in the first half this season, and maybe we'll play great ball in the second half as opposed to our usual second half. It isn't out of the realm of possibilities. All this focus tends to happen when you play poorly in the first half, but not so much when you do it in the second half. Maybe we aren't as bad as we all tend to believe. I concur with this. I have said since '05 I'd rather have carp 1st half (like the Indians that year) and come on second half like gangbusters than go through another September swoon. That was nerve-wracking. And there's bad and then there's BAD and, as many holes as we may have we are CERTAINLY not as awful as we have been playing so far. That tells me a turnaround is coming.

Not to be selfish but I am glad that all the bandwagon jumpers from last season are gone from the park; that sucked. Although the bathroom lines at Cubs/Sox were HELLACIOUS.

Errr, whatever. Can we get back on topic here? This waiting is killing me. Question: do we think that if this deal happens or not, it would be wrapped up before tonight's game either way?

QUOTE(toasty @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 03:20 PM) that's not a rumor, that's crap Hey I'm just posting what was on Yahoo! sports to keep us entertained while we wait. I'm not vouching for it. Hey at least it wasn't from The Score...

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 03:03 PM) IMO, Joe Jackson should be the next statue they make. But once Frank retires, he needs to be on the left field wall and have statue. I totally agree with you about Shoeless Joe.

Allow me then! This just popped up on Yahoo! Sports rumors... http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/mlb_exper...h?urn=mlb,37817 Just for fun, what statement does the author make that's an immediate red flag as to his knowledge of the situation?

Frank has just hit #500. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2919590

I don't mind Vaz; I'm just saying between him and Garland, I'll take Garland. As for the Count, I will always respect him because people forget: he saved 2005 for us. We would have never made it to the WS or even the playoffs without his 2nd half heroics. He'll always be a Sox hero in my book.

When was the last time we won three in a row? EXCELLENT!

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Jun 27, 2007 -> 09:05 PM) How 'bout an insurance walk, Thome? Fixed.

How 'bout an insurance run, Thome?

Damn what is with MacDougal and his wildness this year?

Back when cars couldn't go up hills?

Nooooooo.....

I like your optimism. Even if I think this will never happen.

QUOTE(Beastly @ Jun 27, 2007 -> 04:41 PM) I'm starting to think that this thread should be locked until we get some updates about the current situation and not Buehrle's lifestyle or whatever the hell you are all discussing. I was thinking the same thing. Or deleted until some ACTUAL news comes out and we can start a new thread.

Boy, talk about going from euphoria to caution to letdown and then staying there!

From Yahoo! sports... http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Dy...s?urn=mlb,37577

I saw this in the Sun-Times first thing this morning (at about 5:45AM) arriving at O'Hare after being stranded overnight out of town. And it made my day. You're damn right sign him! Count can go, Vaz too. Garland's not going anywhere, BTW. I repeat my vows about this: if they do this, I will resume going to games (this saves at least part of the season for me) and I will buy a Buehrle jersey. DO IT!