Felix

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ May 29, 2006 -> 01:55 PM) I just got up in time to see Konerko's homer. Can someone tell me how we scored the other 4 runs? Posted this on another board:

This is a long AB.. Paid off

This is a long AB..

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ May 29, 2006 -> 01:28 PM) Vandy, I am with you. Sure Hawk slurps him, but he does bring up a good point. THere is a point when time after time it stops being luck. *gasp* I agree as well! I think that he takes a lot of risks that don't seem smart, but they usually work out. He seems to know what he's doing.

QUOTE(chitownsportsfan @ May 29, 2006 -> 01:23 PM) Exactly. Give it up for one AB. He's widely considered the best defensive SS in the AL. It's not even June. He is? Maybe by Sox fans that actually watch him play, but I'd say that most of the media don't think he's the best SS.

That was a nice inning

The magic of Joey Cora

This is a promising start to the game for the Sox AJ got booed... figures

Put THAT on the board! QUOTE(chimpy2121 @ May 29, 2006 -> 01:08 PM) Thome got cheered this time I heard a lot of boos.. maybe I heard wrong.

Iguchi is wearing an ankle brace now, interesting. ahahahahaha.. Joe West got a crotch shot. Great double for Gooch, great approach to the plate there

QUOTE(Mplssoxfan @ May 29, 2006 -> 09:25 AM) All right, Heads. Where'd you find that? http://www.thebrushback.com/bobley_full.htm

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ May 29, 2006 -> 08:46 AM) Do you think if a pitcher say has a bad 1st season, a good 2nd season, a bad 3rd season, a good 4th season, and a bad 5th season, that pitcher is more likely to have a better season next, than a pitcher who had 3 average to bad seasons, and then a good season next? It really depends. Pitcher A would be the better bet to be good since he's had more success in the past, but its a risk, since he's also struggled. Pitcher B would be the safe bet, since he would likely be average, but I wouldn't say he's more likely to be good. There are other things to factor in as well of course, including their stuff, pitching coach, etc.

QUOTE(Texsox @ May 29, 2006 -> 08:28 AM) Guys don't win 70 games in this league by being a fluke. He will continue to be a solid, mid to back rotation starter, for a long time. On a staff full of top arms, any weakness, any flaw, gets magnified. On any staff, a 6.25 ERA and 1.59 WHIP sticks out. Its not some minor thing that is just getting pointed out because of the rest of the staff. Also, winning 70 games has nothing to do with being a fluke or not, and looking at wins is not a good way to evaluate a pitcher. Throughout his career, he was an average pitcher. Last year however, he was pretty damn good, and looked like a #2 or #3 starter. The question that is being asked is if last year (3.50 ERA, compared to a career 4.53) was a fluke or not.

It wasn't a contract year fluke because it wasn't a contract year, but yes, it was a fluke. (i still voted yes)

Minnesota will beat you all! I just ordered my season tickets the other day

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ May 29, 2006 -> 12:13 AM) The creator of the worse nicknames known to man and that lovely sig is responsible for the post above you. So.. do you idolize this guy or something?

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ May 28, 2006 -> 11:52 PM) Trust me, I'd rather have Garcia than Garland as well but the Sox will be better off selling high. Garcia will have the better season but he will only have one year left until free agency. Couple that with his declining fastball and he makes the most sense to trade. Trading Garland after an awful season wouldn't make much sense. I do agree with that, and I definitely see where you are coming from. I just think that the Sox will go with the pitcher that will give them the best chance to win (which I think is Garcia, even if he loses some MPH on his fastball) since they are trying to compete for the World Series again.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ May 28, 2006 -> 11:52 PM) Well since you got the reaction you wanted Felix and everyone's basically in agreeance, you can go back to Crash crashing and send your sig to KW. Huh? I'm not allowed to have a sig that critical of Garland?

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ May 28, 2006 -> 11:48 PM) I still think we are going to trade Garcia next offseason to free up a spot for McCarthy, probably for pitching prospect(s). Garcia will likely have the better season, he is considered more of a dominating pitcher than Garland, and he will only have one year left under contract. The Sox will use the money freed up by trading Garcia on an extension for Buehrle. As much as I hate watching Garcia pitch (he always gives me heart attacks), I've grown fond of him. I definitely think he'll have the better year this year, and will have more value on the market, but I think that the Sox are more likely to hold onto him and deal Garland to a team desperate for pitching, which there are plenty of.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 28, 2006 -> 11:46 PM) No one is blaiming KW, he did the right thing. The only one being blamed is Jon Garland. I don't really see the conflict here. Well, I blame both of them honestly. I mean, I think it was a silly thing for KW to give that much money to a pitcher who was average throughout his career, then had one above average year. On the other hand, Garland is the one pitching, and he has not looked like himself this year. If he wants to prove that he's deserving of that money, he needs to find some confidence. Unfortunetly, I don't see him doing that.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ May 28, 2006 -> 11:38 PM) Exactly. While 12 mil is ALOT for a pitcher that posts a 4+ ERA, who knows what contracts will look like in 08, and IMO health is important with the contract, and Garland has been perfect in that area. The main reason I don't like the deal is that it ties up a lot of money to a mediocre pitcher and keeps the superior starter (McCarthy) out of the rotation. QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ May 28, 2006 -> 11:39 PM) Carl Pavano, AJ Burnett, Eric Milton, and Jaret Wright say hi. So you cite players that were signed by the Yankees, Blue Jays (who are trying to compete with the Yankees), and Reds (who have literally no pitching) to support your argument. Smart! I really don't know what you arguing here though, so I could be wrong with my assessment.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ May 28, 2006 -> 11:30 PM) Haha no names...:rolly And he could've pulled in much more than that on the open market. Sorry, I don't remember every single person who ever referred to Jon Garland as an ace. Stupid me. Also, JGINAA sounds much better than JGINAAAP.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ May 28, 2006 -> 11:23 PM) Who's ever deemed Garland an ace? A lot of people this offseason and throughout last year, and yea, his salary is meant for an ace, not an average pitcher.

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ May 28, 2006 -> 10:29 PM) Okay, what the hell is ERA+? Didn't you ask this in another thread? (might not have been you, could just be my memory, doesn't matter anyway ) Definition via The Hardball Times:

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 28, 2006 -> 08:39 PM) I'm going to disagree with you. BMac is definately not our best reliever. In fact he sucks in that role so far. I think the reason that he hasn't looked as good as he can be is because of the inconsistant use of him. If he were to be used on a consistant basis (like he would as a starter), he would be much more effective. But alas, he has been used inconsistantly, which has got to be tough for a young pitcher who has gone his entire pro ball career as a starter, before finally being told late 2005 that he would be coming out of the pen.