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QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 30, 2006 -> 05:18 PM) Thats cause you are from Jersey. So I don't go onto Detroit forums flaming their city and team because I'm from Jersey? If this is what fans from Chicago do, they might want to rethink which Chicago fans are the true assholes/idiots.

I really hate Clemens, but I don't think its good for baseball either. I think it was Kruk who was talking about it on BBTN not too long ago, saying something along the lines of if you get paid 300k for 12 months of work, wouldn't you rather be paid a reasonable amount for only 4 months of work? I think that it could lead to players doing this, although I don't think its something that will happen. Still, there should be some sort of rule preventing this somehow.

Crappy final AB for Gooch.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 30, 2006 -> 04:54 PM) Yes, Vaz pitched in the NL. So you think that because Vazquez pitched in the NL, he's equal to Garland? Get real. QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 30, 2006 -> 04:54 PM) Also they are very similar pitchers through the same age. Not quite. Javier Vazquez has the beloved 'live arm'. He has much better stuff than Garland, and throughout his career has both struck out more batters and walked less batters. Vazquez has had more success in the major league level (3 seasons with an ERA under 4, another with a 4.05 ERA), and has always gone long into games (multiple complete games nearly every year; Garland only has one year with more than one, which was last year). QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 30, 2006 -> 04:54 PM) No comments on the Radke comparison? Didn't see it, sorry (that what happens when you edit the post and its on a different page than the latest one). They aren't similar, sorry to burst your bubble. First off, Radke does have the lower ERA by .2, which isn't exactly nothing. Second, Radke averages 40 walks per season, compared to Garland's 75 average. Third, Radke averages 134 strikeouts, compared to Garland's 110. Fourth, Radke has a lower WHIP (1.25) than Garland (1.38). Fifth, Radke has had much more success in the MLB level, including 3 seasons with ERA+'s of 120 or more, and 4 seasons with an ERA under 4 (unlike Garland, who has had 1 full season with an ERA under 4).

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 30, 2006 -> 04:39 PM) Its so funny that Javier Vazquez can do no wrong on this board, and is called the next Ace, yet posts a similar career ERA to Garland and gets paid more money. There's a difference between a 4.42 ERA and 1.38 WHIP (Garland), and a 4.28 ERA and 1.27 WHIP (Vazquez). Vazquez has also had numberous successful seasons (2000-2003), and had more above average seasons than average seasons... unlike Garland. (these numbers aren't including this years stats)

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 30, 2006 -> 04:33 PM) So we are now evaluating pitchers based on one year? I would take Garland of last year over both of those "above average but injury prone pitchers." Your Garland hate makes you look foolish when trying to defend these other jokers. No, we aren't evaluating pitchers based on one year. I think that they possibly did, especially since Burnett has such a high upside. He does have a whole bunch of talent, a live arm, and success in the MLB level more than once, which is likely the reason that he was given that contract. Personally, I think that Burnett's contract is idiotic, but thats just me.

I really hate these 7 PM starts, especially with Buehrle on the mound. I have work until 9, so I'm going to end up missing most of the game I think I'm going to change my hours for the summer so I won't miss these games

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 30, 2006 -> 03:53 PM) How can you be considered above average when you know that they aren't going to contribute for a part of almost every season, if not longer. At the end of the day their numbers are going to be comparable to an average pitcher who is around every start. Well, last year, A.J. Burnett did have 32 starts (doesn't stop him from being injury prone, but it could have been a reason why the contract was so high), and did look pretty damn good in them (3.44 ERA, 117 ERA+). As for Kerry Wood (correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not the best at Cubs lore), he was an amazing pitcher, and wasn't really thought to be injury prone until he blew out his shoulder. By then, his contract was already signed, and he had already had his amazing MLB debut.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ May 30, 2006 -> 03:44 PM) The Dodgers signed that contract, the Yankees only traded for him. My mistake, but that doesn't stop the fact that he is (actually, more like was, but still..) a damn good pitcher when healthy. He's far from being an average starter.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ May 30, 2006 -> 03:17 PM) AJ Burnett moved to the 60 day DL from the 15 day DL. Except Burnett is an above average pitcher, he's just injury prone. QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 30, 2006 -> 03:30 PM) Kerry Wood anyone? Again, above average pitcher, just injury prone. QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 30, 2006 -> 03:30 PM) Hold on, call waiting. Jeff Weaver is on the phone. Hello, Jeff, yes. Hold on, Scott Boras is on the phone. QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 30, 2006 -> 03:30 PM) Oh Livan Hernandez is having a BBQ? For the last 3 years, his ERA has been below 4. QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 30, 2006 -> 03:30 PM) Oh Pavano is coming He was signed by the Yankees.. of course his contract will be bloated. QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 30, 2006 -> 03:30 PM) nice is Loaiza bringing the food? Can't defend that one, idiotic contract given out by Beane... a rarity. QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 30, 2006 -> 03:30 PM) Kevin Brown is bringing the beers Again, the Yankees, injury prone, and a VERY good pitcher when fully healthy.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 30, 2006 -> 03:12 PM) Well sorry, but Detroit is a horrific place to live, and we like to point that out at every chance. Sorry. We do? I don't recall every saying anything of that sort.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 30, 2006 -> 03:07 PM) Did you write off Contreras off at the beginning of last year? The market for good young starting pitching is alot higher than what we are paying Garland. We secured him for lower than market value, what more do you want? I fail to see how giving an average starter $10 million in 2007 and $12 million in 2008 is lower than market value.

What game is that? Nice video

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ May 30, 2006 -> 02:37 PM) That is hilarious, two bad he didn't have that bush costume...

QUOTE(T R U @ May 30, 2006 -> 02:30 PM) And? Those are still games we need to win Why does everyone care what were paying him anyways, its not like its your money If we pay him too much, it prevents the Sox from signing/trading for other players. His earning 29 million over 3 years might prevent the Sox from getting bullpen help, because the teams payroll is already too high.

QUOTE(My Dixie Normus @ May 30, 2006 -> 12:06 PM) Hey Willey Ligue, Jr., A.) It is just a game. One you are not even playing in, for crips sake. Take a step back and a deep breath. B.) There is nothing the Cubs can do outside of 6 games a year that will affect the White Sox. You hate the Cubs more than you love the Sox. You may not have noticed but the Sox play against American league teams. One of them has a better record than we do right now. I will bet you my house the Cubs are not going to catch the Sox for the American League Central this season. C.) The Cubs/Sox rivalry should always be in good fun and in good taste. If a baseball game makes you want to get violent, you need to move to Europe and become a soccer fan where that kind of thing is acceptable. You have issues. You give Sox fans a bad name. Please stop it. Thanks, Dixie. One of the best posts I've seen in awhile

QUOTE(My Dixie Normus @ May 30, 2006 -> 12:06 PM) Hey Willey Ligue, Jr., A.) It is just a game. One you are not even playing in, for crips sake. Take a step back and a deep breath. B.) There is nothing the Cubs can do outside of 6 games a year that will affect the White Sox. You hate the Cubs more than you love the Sox. You may not have noticed but the Sox play against American league teams. One of them has a better record than we do right now. I will bet you my house the Cubs are not going to catch the Sox for the American League Central this season. C.) The Cubs/Sox rivalry should always be in good fun and in good taste. If a baseball game makes you want to get violent, you need to move to Europe and become a soccer fan where that kind of thing is acceptable. You have issues. You give Sox fans a bad name. Please stop it. Thanks, Dixie. Its so true! Well said! QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ May 30, 2006 -> 01:30 PM) Actually I think he's more of a Cub fan than a Sox fan so they can take the embarassment. Also very true

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ May 30, 2006 -> 01:30 PM) he said they "slumped toward the end" Going 12-16 in August with a 7 game losing streak doesn't qualify as a slump? I think that the Sox had a .552 winning percentage (or something close to that) in the second half of the year.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ May 30, 2006 -> 12:24 PM) Manager Ozzie Guillen backed off earlier statements about Brian Anderson being on the verge of heading to Triple-A. ''It's not fair for the kid to think he has to play good [every at-bat],'' Guillen said. "We need him. He's a big part of the ballclub. Hopefully, he'll go out there and show some improvement." Per Roto Excellent news

QUOTE(southsideirish @ May 30, 2006 -> 11:38 AM) We slumped at the end? Where? For how long? I'm amazed people don't realize that we still had a pretty damn good record in the second half of last year..

QUOTE(Leonard Zelig @ May 30, 2006 -> 09:19 AM) CCF? Here's a hint: The second two letters stand for Cubs Fan.

Safe... the slide was a good one. And wow, that is pathetic. CCF indeed.

He was a very good player, but he's not a Hall of Famer.

I didn't realize this until now, but wow, Paulie is really having a great season. I knew he was doing well just from watching the games, but I guess I overlooked him with how Thome is doing. Right now in the American League, Paulie is t-2nd in HR, 6th in RBI, and 9th in OPS

QUOTE(YASNY @ May 30, 2006 -> 04:22 AM) I believe I heard Hawk or DJ say that Paulie was within 3 of Baines for #2 on the list. Yep, he is. He has 218 HR on the White Sox, Baines had 221.