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QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 08:05 AM) No doubt about it Fulmer really is Filthy Fulmer, he does worry me prospectively though, did we really get a starter? If so is he frontline? His size, goggles, velocity, arsenal, tendency to hit the dirt, all have me thinking he's a future reliever. We all knew Sale and Rodon were frontline starters when drafted but there is so much question about Fulmer's future. I'd like to see him win the CWS, sign for slot, go to AZL/GF in mid-July, then W-S, then Charlotte like Rodon. If he develops the command, adjusts to pro-ball, and perfects his arsenal, hopefully he can remain a starter long term. He reminds me a lot of Marcus Stroman, while he's most commonly compared to former Commodore Sonny Gray, and has even been compared to Carlos Martinez, Danny Salazar, Tim Lincecum, and Roy Oswalt. Hopefully, he'll be up on a winning ChiSox team in 2016 in a rotation looking like Sale, Fulmer, Quintana, Johnson, Rodon. What do the goggles have to do with it? Lots of pitchers wear contacts, but a few prefer goggles. And we didn't all know" Sale was a frontline starter for sure, in fact there was lots of doubt on that early on.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 12:20 AM) Yea it sucks he doesn't know how to play the game and shorten his swing. His stats just stink to high-heaven of a guy who thinks "chicks dig the long ball, forget my teamates". I can tell you without a doubt he actually has shortened his swing and has spent time aiming center to right, both in BP and games. But I am not sure he does it consistently. More likely, he may just not be good enough even with those adjustments.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 07:33 PM) One of my best friends lives in Black Hills (went to Black Hills State) and works out there as a Forest Technician now, I should really go out to see him sometime and explore that area. I should have added, if you don't have kids or they are older, the other great thing to do out there is all the outdoors stuff. Its like a mini-Rockies. Hiking, fishing, biking, lots of that kind of stuff to do.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 03:23 PM) What about the institutionalized racial supremacy that flying a confederate flag on a state capitol represents? QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 03:29 PM) How about getting the words at least correct as it isn't 'flying on the state capital', but in a memorial park on capital grounds. it was removed from the capital building a few years ago. Correct. But I do applaud that they are taking them down. That said, it has next to nothing to do with this shooting in my mind, other than the fact that they both involve racism. That's a stretch of a connection for me. QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 03:34 PM) Big difference between influence and control. People were worried that Kennedy would be controlled once in office by his Catholic faith. Liberals constantly worry that any right winger will let his Christian faith guide him in decision making. Influencing isn't always a bad thing. Controlling is another. Islam IS the government. There is no separation. Agree here too.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 03:09 PM) I think Islam itself is a whole different ballgame as the religion is also a political structure. The government in regions dominated by it is entirely religious-based, so it is hard for people to separate them. So take the 2 guys that tried to kill Pam Gellar recently. You have a mixture of both. They were most likely acting on their own, using their interpretations of religion as the basis of the actions. But where are they getting those interpretations from? Imans, CAIR, whole governments etc. When they throw people off a roof in Iran for being gay, and a Muslim here does something anti-gay, well. Iran didn't tell him to, but he sure got the idea is was A-OK from somewhere, and it wasn't just from some corner anti-gay Muslim. I do agree that the institutionalized religion into government is a key difference. The KKK isn't running a government or writing books required in school. However, I do think you need to separate the interpretation here. I am NOT an expert, but from what I have read in a few books on the topic, I don't get the impression the Quran is any more (or less) leaning towards violence than the Bible. Its how the religion is taught and implemented. Anyway that's an aside. I think we agree that the key here is, dude did something evil and that's bad. He was racist and that's bad.

Did a week-long road trip to the Dakotas with the wife and 2 young kids. Some highlights to use on your future journeys there... Black Hills area... --Keystone, the city nearest Rushmore, is trash. Like Wisconsin Dells or worse. Stay in Hill City or elsewhere if you can. --Rushmore itself is indeed worth seeing, very neat, but also you don't need more than like an hour there. --Badlands, a ways outside of Rushmore, is very cool. --Sitting Bull Crystal Caverns was neat, but do NOT do it if you are at all afraid of heights. --1880 train was fun --Didn't get to see Crazy Horse, wish we had The rest to and from... --Dickinson, ND is actually a cool little town. Dinosaur museum and pioneer village that the kids liked, some fun cafes. Not a destination, but a very good choice for a stopover. --Bismarck, ND was... not worth the time (Blake is going to kill me). The state capital looks like a derelict 60s federal agency building. --Yankton, SD is another good choice for stopover and even spending a day there - lots of hiking trails and bridges, tons of interesting history, I was surprised. None of it was exactly exciting, but it was a good vacation trip especially with kids. You could easily spend a week in the Black Hills area alone and not get bored. We didn't do half the stuff on our list.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 02:41 PM) Someone spelling Reinsdorf with two F's. NOW I get it, haha. Fixed.

Ah, replied before the edit. OK, that was humor apparently.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 02:30 PM) what the f***, how can we not sign him.... you can't tell me that the sox can not use someone like this. i am totally pissed. i mean, can't the freaking owners afford this. What are you talking about? Or whom?

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 12:11 PM) <!--quoteo(post=3184779:date=Jun 22, 2015 -> 11:27 AM:name=NorthSideSox72)-->QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 11:27 AM) <!--quotec-->Just curious, because I see this from a number of places (not just your post)... if this guy is evil, using some variety of racism/white power/KKK as a mask or banner to hide behind... would you say the same about extremist Islamic terrorists? That it isn't about religion, but about evil individuals? I would ask the same question of our more liberal posters. Every time a Muslim commits an evil act we are constantly reminded by media, politicians and so on how this was a 'lone wolf' and in no way represents Islam. However EVERY TIME a white guy does something, and double if he even remotely appears to be conservative, Republicans and conservatives are bombarded to distance themselves from him, apologize and so on. I have zero in common with this Dylan asshole other than he shares the same skin color as me. I feel no kinship or empathy with him because he happens to be white like me. I think that happens both ways. Was more curious what YOU thought. I could care less what columnists at Salon or Daily Beast think.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 11:50 AM) Several studies have come out in recent years arguing that the rate of "Mass shootings" classified typically as 4 or more people shot in a single event is actually going up and in some cases fairly rapidly. QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 11:57 AM) http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2014/09/why-y...oting-rise.html The conclusion: not by much, and it still amounts to less than 1% of the murders every year. Those two just re-illustrate my point. Crime is generally down for some time now, though it is possible certain groupings or types within that are going up. Point is, this isn't some new trend.

Here's your draft signings and pool status update - should give you the full picture as it stands right now.

Just a quick write-up on where things stand with the draft and pool, with some scenarios for signings. This should help provide a picture for those curious about Fulmer, Hickman and others.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 11:19 AM) Matt, where would you have Michael Hickman ranked if he signs? Hard to say, I need to research him more. But I'm pretty sure he'd make the list. Beyond that, not really sure.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jun 20, 2015 -> 11:55 PM) I notice you didn't paste in the pic of him burning the American flag. Would that have made him seem a slight bit less conservative in your mind? I men, what self respecting teabagger would burn an American flag! He is evil, cloaked in racism. I would almost be happy if the police car transporting him to trial broke down in the middle of gang territory and the cops were forced to abandon the car. Just curious, because I see this from a number of places (not just your post)... if this guy is evil, using some variety of racism/white power/KKK as a mask or banner to hide behind... would you say the same about extremist Islamic terrorists? That it isn't about religion, but about evil individuals? I personally don't draw the sort of society-wide conclusions from this shooting that others seem to. Racist loser kills a bunch of people. It's awful, it's sad. He'll be tried and either put to death or put in jail forever. Whether you want to point to the racism or the homicidal lunacy, both were there with this guy. Both are bad. Both aren't going to go away suddenly. I saw dueling opinion pieces from one of the Psychology magazines recently, that I think both captured it well, if you do want to make this societal. One said the problem was about anti-intellectualism, the other said it was about lack of empathy. I agree with both. One other thing people forget when these tragedies occur - rates of deadly crime in this country have, nearly across the board, been on a downward trend for a couple decades now. Some places saw a tick up the past few years, which is economic in basis. But overall, crime is headed down. It just seems there may be more of a certain KIND of crime, combined with the fact that we hear more about it now because of technology. Yet people jump to the conclusion that there is some sort of trend here - there isn't.

QUOTE (daggins @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 10:54 AM) That's the highest take on Engel i've seen, especially since he's stunk like rotting fish in May/June. He's hitting .281 in his last 15 games. I'd say that's a little better than "stunk like rotting fish", though certainly he's lacked the power lately too. That said, again, I didn't do a ton of research. I might drop him back a little bit, but I believe in the tools and he's not going to be much lower than that for me.

One of the starters will get traded, I am 90% sure, before the end of July. Likely Danks (with money and in exchange for a non-prospect, or for another bad deal), or possibly Shark. Johnson joins the rotation at that point.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 06:14 AM) nice article. i also like it b/c he was with the sox in their, i think it is ACE program or something like that. Hinchley wasn't in ACE. That was Hickman.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 21, 2015 -> 10:06 PM) MJ hasn't met the amount of games played to lose prospect status. Just looked at this, and you are correct. Rodon is (or soon will be) off, same with Sanchez. Our next official T30 will be end of July or so, and it is very possible we could acquire some prospects before then. But with what we have now, assuming Fulmer signs and Mike Hickman doesn't, I guess I'd go with something like this (not heavily researched yet)... 1. Tim Anderson 2. Carson Fulmer 3. Micah Johnson 4. Frank Montas 5. Trey Michalczewski 6. Tyler Danish 7. Spencer Adams 8. Micker Adolfo 9. Jacob May 10. Adam Engel 11. Trayce Thompson 12. Chris Beck 13. Courtney Hawkins 14. Jordan Guerrero 15. Kevan Smith 16. Tyler Saladino 17. Jason Coats 18. Thad Lowry 19. Matt Davidson 20. Onelki Garcia 21. Corey Zangari 22. Cleuluis Rondon 23. Terance Marin 24. Luis Castillo 25. Amado Nunez 26. Andrew Wheeler 27. Eddy Alvarez 28. Jhoandro Alfaro 29. Keon Barnum 30. Jake Peter Next 10 (not necessarily in order): David Trexler, Jordan Stephens, Brian Clark, Zack Erwin, JB Wendelken, Yency Almonte, Robin Leyer, Johan Cruz, Mason Robbins, Danny Hayes

Dan wrote a short and sweet post about how being a draft pick in MLB isn't like other sports. No lag time or prep time at all. Something to consider when talking about these guys. You should read it.

As noted on the Tracker, Sox have signed all but Fulmer through round 34. 35-37 open questions. 38-40 aren't going to sign. Moving this thread to the FS forum.

Recap posted. TONS of info in this one - some live scouting info on Charlotte's pitchers, AZL opener, lots of games, etc.

Working on the recap now, but there were NINE GAMES, plus I have in-person scouting from Charlotte from a 3rd party to include. This may take a while.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 12, 2015 -> 03:29 PM) Well there we go. Fulmer is the only guy out of the top 15 not signed. Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 4m4 minutes ago #WhiteSox fourth-rounder Zack Erwin has also signed. Of their 38 picks, Sox have signed 26, including 14 of first 15. Excellent.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 12, 2015 -> 03:14 PM) It would be strange for the team to list the 5-7 round picks, but not the 4th. He may not be done technically and completely, but the player said on Twitter was now on the White Sox.