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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 30, 2011 -> 08:33 AM) Not really, because the end result is still heavily gutted environmental regulations. edit: the EPA wasn't the agency Perry forgot, it was the DOE. Someone else shouted out EPA when he was caught in the headlights. What Perry's flub says to me is that they were just talking points and he wouldn't actually eliminate these huge departments with pretty diverse functions. If he actually cared that much about it, if it was a real issue, he'd remember pretty easily. Yes I know it was Energy, I just couldn't resist the joke. And you are missing my point. I didn't say the result is good. I am saying that Rick Perry is thinking people are gullible, and that they'll actually believe it is even possible for him to get rid of entire agencies of government like that. It plays well short run, but then falls apart. Gingrich is smarter than that. That's what I'm saying.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 30, 2011 -> 08:45 AM) http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/11/29/ill...campaign=210790 Well that isn't good. The exchanges had a real case here about being taxed unfairly compared to other businesses. Sears maybe not so much. But if the state wants a progressive tax structure to help the poor, then enact that - as opposed to the flat tax rate.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 30, 2011 -> 08:45 AM) It was the same thing they did with the bank bailouts. They forced everyone to take them, so as to not reveal who really was in trouble. That's not true, there is a list out there of who got what money, that was part of the law. And besides, TARP was a real bailout - this central bank movement isn't that type of move. The two are entirely different.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 30, 2011 -> 09:10 AM) I don't agree, simply because Matt is the elephant in the room right now...rebuild or no rebuild, if you need to start cutting salary, the $6 million reliever is low hanging fruit... I agree, Matt Thornton is not the signal here. The signal is who of Danks, Floyd and/or M56 are still around for 2012. If 2 of the 3 are back, or all 3, then this is in no way a rebuild. If one of three, or none, are with the team, that is a rebuild.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 30, 2011 -> 08:26 AM) teammktgreport teammarketingreport White Sox dropping full season ticket plans 31 percent in 2012. Sox had seventh-biggest attendance drop in 2011 at 2,386 per game. I am seeing this reported a lot, and it isn't true. Gonzo got it wrong too. This is misleading numbers. Ticket plans are not dropping 31% or anything close to that. See, the Sox sent out a flyer to season holders, and they used what I'd call a trick of numbers. See, the flyer has a page that says "All seat locations have lowered pricing from the 2011 season", and then it shows a chart of % of savings. Those numbers range from 17% to 32% for full season holders. But if you read the fine print on the flyer, it says "Savings and percentages are calculated from the basline individual ticket price". See what they did there? The discount for season tickets was ALREADY in that territory to begin with. For example, our % of savings on the flyer says 23%. Except last year, that number was already 21%.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 30, 2011 -> 08:06 AM) Speculation on CBNC is that one of the biggest banks in the world was about to fail, and this action was to hide and protect it. Possible, but I really don't see how a basis cut on money swap is what would save a large bank. So I don't believe that is likely in this case. If anything, the governments would NOT want to hide it anyway, becuase they want leverage to further regulate and break things up. Also helping the markets, ADP jobs number for November is out, and they are saying 206k newly created, which would be a pretty huge number (if the official report comes in anywhere near that).

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 30, 2011 -> 07:52 AM) Some of those things need to die. SOX has been nothing but a drain on corporations and hasn't actually prevented anything. We still see a respective level of fraud. If management is willing to lie, another agency to lie to isn't going to make them stop and suddenly have a conscious. Specific laws, he is willing to make a policy of outright killing, because it is actually possible and practical. Still won't happen most likely thought.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 29, 2011 -> 06:57 PM) The question is, is M-56 going to stay here through what is clearly a rebuilding process. ANd do the Sox want to pay him to do that. I'm not sure yet that this is "clearly a rebuilding process". If the team moves Thornton, Quentin and EITHER of Danks or Floyd (but not both)... and re-signs M56... that doesn't look like a full-boat rebuild to me. Viciedo replaces Quentin, the rotation becomes Buehrle/Floyd-or-Danks/Peavy/Humber/Sale, and there is a long list of possible replacements for Thornton. Meanwhile, there are whatever prospect the team gets for those three. That looks like a re-tool on the fly to me, not a full-on rebuild. And they may not even trade both Quentin and Thornton, maybe only one of the two. Of course, they may end up trading both those SP's and other people, and not sign M56, for a serious rebuild. That might also happen. I really, really want the dominos to start falling soon. Its driving me nuts that we don't even have any idea what general direction the organization is going to take.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 29, 2011 -> 10:10 PM) Gingrich thinks that the CBO is some sort of socialist plot from the devil. Why on Earth would you give him the benefit of the doubt over the EPA? There is no benefit of the doubt - see my other response. Also, Newt does have a habit of creating Biden moments when he speaks off the cuff. Or maybe Ron Paul moments.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 29, 2011 -> 09:47 PM) "re-tool" is code for "kill" Of course he wants to kill it - but he recognizes he can't practically do so. So unlike Perry, not only does Gingrich actually remember which agency, he also makes it a policy to try to put a big old leash on it. Make it do less. Why does this make Newt different than, say, Perry? It says that Newt has a better grip on reality. I may not agree with either one on this particular issue, but Newt is a lot less scary because he isn't completely ignorant. This is a subtle but important difference.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Nov 29, 2011 -> 11:12 AM) With White Sox devoted to idea of trading at least some parts -- Danks, Quentin, Floyd, Thornton -- it's hard to see how Buehrle returns. -- Buster Olney That is the exact opposite interperetation I would take. If KW can move some parts to clear room, it makes it MORE likely M56 comes back. If they can't move pieces and get some OK value in return, that is when it is LESS likely, in my view.

I still think there is a better than even chance he ends up here. Not just Rock's source, but also, I am fairly certain that bottled up demand for guys like Quentin, Thornton and Danks/Floyd will allow KW to make a big trade or two cutting salary, keep the other one of Floyd/Danks, and sign M56. I'm not sure by any stretch, but if I was forced to bet on a team, it would still be the Sox.

QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Nov 29, 2011 -> 12:47 PM) It seems to me the same as every other GOP plan so far. -End Wall Street regulations (because we haven't learned yet) -End the EPA -END Taxes Period Can someone on the GOP not just repeat what Grover Norquist wants? Actually, Gingrich didn't say any one of those three things. Some candidates favor getting rid of Dodd-Frank, but not all of them. I'd prefer it be modified, and the rules be solidified. A few candidates want to outright kill the EPA - Paul, Perry, Bachmann I think. Gingrich wants to re-tool it. And end taxes period? LOL

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 29, 2011 -> 08:47 AM) dan_bernstein Dan Bernstein News that #Cubs may pursue Fielder/Pujols is sobering evidence that the new CBA badly damaged Epstein's plan. Or it just means the Cubs are "in" on basically everyone on the market, which has been true since well before the CBA changes.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 29, 2011 -> 08:43 AM) Didn't Marty say the same thing, only to get repeatedly shot down? What are you talking about? This article states that people are calling about Santos. No one would have suggested that wouldn't happen. How is Marty "vindicated"? I only seem to recall him being shot down because he wanted to trade Santos, and the responses were that that was a silly idea unless the return was insanely good.

In case anyone was curious, here is a review of Gingrich's Economic Plan. Dramatic, inventive and interesting in some places, unrealistic in other places, scary in yet others.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 29, 2011 -> 12:18 AM) Seems insane to buy season tix for this bunch. Wouldn't a 10-game plan suffice? If somehow they seem like they actually are into it in April/early May u could buy more tix. If they are zombies like last year, u could pass and golf more and mow the lawn more. Season tickets, for most, are not a season-to-season decision. It is usually more long term. For one thing, season ticket holders are usually going to be pretty big fans, who go to a lot of games even if the team isn't playing well. For another - and this is key - when you choose not to renew your tickets, you go to the back of the line in seniority. That means back of the line in terms of seat location, as well as other benefits. That said, our group that shares a season plan did seriously discuss not renewing (we've had seasons since 2004). But we decided that, we always break even or better on the games we don't use, and the team seemed to make the right move firing Ozzie, so we elected to stick it out. We also have front row seats (UD) now, and we don't want to lose that.

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 28, 2011 -> 06:38 PM) Blah, in pretty woman they added the bulls*** "oh but it was her first night as a prostitute" line. I think Bridesmaids resonates more because she is "falling behind" her friends and is trying to keep up. Swingers actually hit on being poor and young better than most. It's just ridiculous that I'm struggling to find any movies where the characters are poor and them being poor isn't a stereotype. ...where the heart is? Has it come to this? Even look at the League, those dudes are all comics who struggled for years, and first shot they get they create themselves all as uber succesful. Being poor sucks, but it's also where a lot of comedians inspiration comes from. Yet it's not represented in cinema often. Actually you do see plenty of movies focusing on poor people - but they are EXTREMELY poor, like in some form of dystopia, or they came crashing down from some great height, or it is in some 3rd world country. You are right though that you don't see a lot of American films focusing on poor Americans.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Nov 28, 2011 -> 05:06 PM) yes, they love that they can show it and spin it in the way they want. They love anything where they can show craziness, violence, politics, sex, drugs, anything and everything that sells. Occupy has it all. They won't spend much time analyzing the root of the issues, because their readers are mostly not interested in that level of depth. Its sad, but its true.

QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Nov 28, 2011 -> 04:05 PM) Cubs listening to offers for Garza via MLBtraderumors. Wow. That is one way to rebuild the farm, but it also says "we are in no way competing in 2012, or even 2013". Then again, that is probably already true, but for a team with a horrible starting pitching staff, that sure does seem like a strange way to rebuild.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Nov 28, 2011 -> 04:58 PM) I would prefer a 'debate' where they talked about only one topic and at length, throwing ideas back and forth instead of sound bites. Limit to 2, MAYBE 3 people at a time and have at it. Immigration/border control. GO! Give each person time to respond, and have questions asked by the other person(s) there, not some moderator who may or may not have an agenda. The most recent debate was pretty close to that. Some others were too clipped and jammed to have that. But I agree, the longer discussion on fewer topics at each debate are better. Another problem is, if a candidate didn't get their word in on a question, they have this annoying habit if using their time on the next question to answer the first one. I think there should be a guy in an NFL referee uniform there, and when a candidate starts talking about some already-closed question, he blows the whistle, throws a flag in the air, and turns off that candidate's microphone. Just kidding. Sort of.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 28, 2011 -> 04:47 PM) If Kenny Williams has any desire to compete in the next 2 years, M-56 has to be back. If Kenny Williams wants to undertake a full rebuilding, he can let Mark go. For my eyes, I think you have to just say that Kenny Williams is starting over at ground level right now. He offered to resign, his offer was turned down. Now his job is to do the best he can with what he has available to himself. That means making the right decision now about whether to try to go again this year or selling hard on the in-demand assets he does have, with the total salary he can spend hanging over his head.. The time to focus on previous blunders was when he offered to resign Good post. I think time is the problem here, though. Kenny needs to move some money, to spend money on M56. Other teams know this. I think the game Kenny is playing here, is to get the best possible offers on the table for guys like Quentin, Thornton, Danks and Floyd... wait until M56 and his agent say "let's lay it out on the table on Date X"... then decide if the moves he has available to him can clear room for Mark AND get him decent return. If he can, look for 2 or 3 deals in quick succession, followed by Mark signing with the Sox. If he can't watch for 4 or 5 deals in slower succession, and no Mark.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Nov 28, 2011 -> 04:25 PM) sucks Yes he does, and I'm glad he is leaving. The guy was just terrible, and liberals could find much better people to stand for their values.

QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Nov 28, 2011 -> 04:29 PM) Which were all mentioned back in one of the summer debates. I have watched almost every single one of them. Not at all. For one thing, multiple new stances from multiple candidates came out. For another, some of the discussion and interplay between candidates was quite good, and presented some new perspectives.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Nov 28, 2011 -> 04:21 PM) i get it - but then again, mainstream republicans aren't too thrilled with the tea partiers either. and yes, this is how the MSM operates, but remind me why it's a good thing? It isn't a good thing, but it is not some grand conspiracy against Occupy either. In fact they love Occupy, because it is a major news event.