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Joel Sherman‏Verified account @Joelsherman1 12m12 minutes ago Agreement on new MLB-NPB posting system down to few items, but not done and those involved still saying if not finalized today it won’t get done this offseason #Ohtani

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 02:47 PM) Great spot to be. Would be amazing if add Maitan (who some wanted as a center-piece in a Q deal) or any of these kids that just got removed today. While obviously the big prize is Maitan, the catcher Abrahan Gutierrez might be as big of a prize, if the hints about Maitans status dropping are true.

QUOTE (G&T @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 02:43 PM) So that is truly the WH line. If the accused denies (AND THEY ARE IN MY PARTY), then it didn't happen. Protecting the status quo, which is all Trump has to protect himself. This is most accurate and pretty applicable across the board.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 02:39 PM) Question is, which team gets busted next? I doubt them and the Red Sox are the only ones cheating in one way or another when it comes to these signings/agreements. What stood out so far in the reporting was how brazen the Braves were. Sounds like they barely tried to hide it, and almost flaunted the rules.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 02:30 PM) Braves definitely came out in better shape than us. Just funny given how much serious/extensive it seems this offense was and yet we ultimately paid a bigger price. Obviouslg happy with the punishment here regardless. This type of behavior can not be tolerated or it will continue to foster. To be fair, one set of actions was criminal. The other was against baseball's rules.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 01:37 PM) Agree with this, really sucks for Porter but I'm guessing as long as he looks ok in workouts he is still a top 10 pick. Sure he might not go top 3 but someone will take a chance on that talent early like the 76ers did with Embiid a few years back. I'm sure he will still do quite well for himself in the draft next year, he just won't be competing with Bagley, Ayton and Doncic for #1 but I bet he still goes right after those guys. Embiid also missed two full seasons. That is what teams are trying to avoid.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 02:25 PM) I just don't think that's how the Sox will view based on Covey and Nieto. But yea, in theory. There is also Angel Sanchez who was gone very quickly.

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 02:23 PM) White Sox are now definite #1 system in MLB lol. Really hope they can pull off a couple of these kids by selling them a chance to be part of an up and coming farm. Yeah, the Braves just lost their #5 and #30 guys according to last years MLB list. Minorleaguebaseball.com it is #13 and some of their C+ and C rated guys.

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 02:05 PM) I'm sympathetic to the view that Trump's election led to the revelations about weinstein actually "meaning" something. Trump being teflon to those accusations I think made people realize how performative the reactions to these claims have been. Something like the problem was they got caught. Maybe not the best way to put it, but the sheer number of victims from cosby to weinstein and how they were enabled made people wake up to something. Hopefully the idea that making excuses for these people is what puts us in position to get these kind of candidates is really taking hold. I doubt it, but I can hope.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 02:17 PM) Do not pick up any guys in the rule 5. We don't need a 25 man spot wasted all year when there will be numerous higher upside vets looking for playing time come late Jan and early Feb. Keeping a 25 man spot open for a veteran will almost certainly (imo) find a higher upside asset come late winter that is actually flippable at the deadline if they perform. Even if we draft someone, we can still drop other 40 man roster players to make roster room for FA's and waivers type pick ups.

QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 02:13 PM) Jeff Passan @JeffPassan 1m Other penalties: The Braves will not be allowed to sign 14-year-old shortstop Robert Puason, the top player in the class of 2019, with whom they had illegally struck a deal. Atlanta also will lose a third-round draft pick in 2018 for offering inducements to a drafted player. Jeff Passan @JeffPassan BREAKING: Star prospect Kevin Maitan is one of 12 Atlanta Braves minor leaguers expected to be declared a free agent after league investigation, sources tell Yahoo Sports. In addition, Braves will suffer significant restrictions in 2019-20 and 2020-21 international FA classes. Wow. So they are basically going to go 5 years without real international signings. Damn.

QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 02:02 PM) Ben Badler @BenBadler now Confirmed the Braves will lose two more players who signed for $1 million. They will lose more players as well: bit.ly/2hTLUDk Soto and Yefri del Rosario had also both made it to the United States. Wow.

Article is paywalled, but interesting to note. Baseball America‏Verified account @BaseballAmerica 2h2 hours ago As Kevin Maitan hits the market again, he's going to be a tough player for teams to evaluate because his pro reports vary pretty distinctly from his glowing amateur reports.

QUOTE (BamaDoc @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 01:42 PM) Would Nick Burdi make sense for us? We already have his brother and should have an idea as to his medicals. He had TJ surgery in May so he could begin on the 60 day dl. When ready, he could have a decent amount of time on a rehab assignment prior to joining the majors in what would likely be the second half of the season. Prior to injury, his profile was much like his brother's, 80 FB and 65 Slider rating with a lesser change up but potential closer ability. 25 in Jan. We wouldn't need him to be great in 2018, just survive. Second thought. If it is our pick and our targets are gone, can we draft our own player? Guerrero or Peter or Polo? I like all of them better than some we kept. FWIW, they added an active roster requirement to players taken in the Rule 5 draft. If a player doesn't spend enough days on the active roster (NOT on the DL) then those roster requirements are carried into the next season. Burdi had surgery on June 1, 2017, so if he was on the major league roster on June 1, 2018 he pretty much couldn't miss any time for the rest of the season due to injury for the White Sox to keep him free and clear for 2019.

Paul Skrbina‏ @ChiTribSkrbina 58m58 minutes ago Duncan Keith: "I want to play till I’m 45. Eleven more years. I feel like I’m 22 right now. ...I feel better than I did at times when I was 27, 28." Joel Quenneville's response: "I could see it. I don’t think he’ll be playing these kind of minutes but I like his ambition."

Joel Sherman‏Verified account @Joelsherman1 18m18 minutes ago Joel Sherman Retweeted MLB Trade Rumors If it matters, it is going to be more than 4 prospects made free

Joel Sherman‏Verified account @Joelsherman1 19h19 hours ago #Yankees got $250,000 in international $ from #Marlins. That gives them $3.5M now to spend this offseason. Only the #Rangers $3.535M have more. #Ohtani

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 01:37 PM) Because being a sexual abuser and admitting it on camera was important to people who voted Trump? With the margins we are talking about, it wouldn't take much at all to sway an election. Especially if the two candidates up top were worth a spit.

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 01:34 PM) True, but if he works out and people say he looks okay, you go. If not, poor kid. Basketball has those handful of cases where star loses their career to injury. But largely I like the sport because it's not debilitated by star injuries each year. Can't imagine the pain of losing it all right as it's about to begin. The problem is until he plays a real schedule you won't know. Working out isn't going to answer those questions the same way a college basketball season will.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 01:29 PM) There's so much depth in this organization that the one area I'd circle as "we need to address this soon and with big money" is the bullpen. We might well pull a dominant starting rotation and a strong lineup out of our hats by 2020, but the bullpen isn't likely to do the same thing with what we have. Even if a failed starter or two heads out there, there aren't a ton of guys at AAA who are about to jump up and support that bullpen. That's where I dumped most of my money in my roster setup. Go for broke on the bullpen and every other position still has people with potential. Conveniently, there are huge names on the list who will probably be happy to sign for our money if we are willing to spend it. Honestly it is the last area I would look at. We have a pack of true relievers who throw in the high nineties or better in the system in Diaz, Burr, Burdi and Vieira. They also have lot of minor league starting pitchers who are doing the same, many of whom will absolutely fail to get the majors as a starter. The Sox do still have some live arms sitting on the 40 man roster as well who could round into a relief core. Plus with the year to year volatility of relievers, it is tough to justify eight figures a year for the good ones when you have so many plus arms in the system.

Back surgery/problems is definitely something that could cost the guy first round status.

A sexual harasser walks into a bar.

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 12:01 PM) I think Ronan Farrow's incredible Weinstein story and follow-ups that showed how the system was used was more influential. Yeah, Harvey broke the dam here. Everything else has flowed through since. Too bad the election didn't happen 18 months later, we might have gotten here without Clinton or Trump.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 01:10 PM) Ball is doing this solely to keep his name in the media and to promote his company and his shoe line or whatever. Trump is gullible enough to fall for it and feeding into it. Trump is doing it to keep the eyes away from all of the other stuff going on. Totally wagging the dog.

QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 01:08 PM) We aren't in play here right? Since we can only offer 300k.. or can we go over? Is this a special case? I'm confused lol All teams are limited to spending what is left in their bonus pools AND teams that have spending restrictions due to exceeding caps in 2015 or 2016 signing periods are still subject to those caps. So yes we are limited to $300k per kid assuming we have that much left to spend.