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QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 08:04 AM) 4.39 vs 4.74 is not a difference of .05. He also had a better WHIP, ERA+, BB/9, K/9, H/9, K/BB ratio Making up one stat and cherry picking another does not make a good comp He is taking full season stats to make the comp look worse.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 07:34 AM) Do you think John Danks sucked last year? Noesi's White Sox ERA was 0.05 lower, and his FIP was higher. The emergence of Hector Noesi is very overblown. There is a lot of slop built into those numbers, especially the early starts where they left him in to get beat up, because building pitch counts was more important than his numbers. There is also the swoon at the end of the year that is pretty easy to imagine is a direct result of the number of innings he threw. I am not expecting greatness or anything, but I do expect the numbers will improve a bit.

QUOTE (flavum @ Feb 23, 2015 -> 05:47 PM) Good answer. Realistically, do you see 4 guys making the team off of minor league invites? I think that is crazy optimistic. I think two is a much more realistic number.

QUOTE (flavum @ Feb 23, 2015 -> 05:42 PM) Just wondering if they have options left. Like Guerra...I could see him getting traded or DFA if he's out of options. Sox are in a position where they may have to add Johnson, Soto, and Crain and/or Albers to the 40-man, so a couple these guys may have to go. Maybe an 8-man bullpen buys a couple weeks to evaluate in-season. Most of the issues will take care of themselves over the next five weeks or so.

Just to clarify, let's just say I am not buying what this guy is selling... He's a bit like this. http://snl.wikia.com/wiki/Penelope

QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 23, 2015 -> 04:41 PM) I'd be curious to see this argument. That's incredibly hard to quantify at this point and even down the line there's plenty of variables to account for. The guys who would have been signed then are like 19/20 years old now. That is just crazy.

QUOTE (flavum @ Feb 23, 2015 -> 02:14 PM) Any relievers on the Option bubble this year? Cleto and Surkamp free to go to AAA? Surkamp I wouldn't mind keeping around for depth. Cleto can't catch a bus out of town fast enough.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 23, 2015 -> 04:10 PM) But in that same breath, the Sox didn't suffer any material penalty there. I believe they spent just under 5% more than their whole pool. Without going to Google, I'll round up and say they spent 5% more than their 9.5 million dollar pool. That's $475,000 + a 75 percent penalty ($356,250). So the Sox were penalized less than a season of a league minimum salary. They did this to sign the draft's top player that they had full rights to. The Yankees and Red Sox, on the other hand, have taken on huge penalty hits of entirely material proportions to get the talent. Obviously both teams have excess discretionary income but as a result, they have rendered the current CBA as inadequate towards preserving a level playing field. The owners who oppose that type of behavior are headed by Reinsdorf and I doubt he would commit to a practice that he diametrically opposes. This conversation does bring us back to the upcoming CBA. I do hope the MLB is ahead of the curve because I would hate to see the Sox get shafted by teams acting quickly and beating the system. I also believe it is the largest rule 4 draft penalty, ever. No one has ever gone into lost draft pick territory, for sure. Call it what you want, but it the first time they have done it. I also believe it is the first time they have gone over even the "suggestion" since Joe Borchard. Last year was different. Why? Who knows.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 23, 2015 -> 03:27 PM) It's an interesting thought for sure but I don't think it's one that White Sox front office would explore. I am afraid, and yes this is conjecture, that Jerry Reinsdorf's relationship with the commissioner's office is a constraint on the White Sox front office particularly in this avenue of procuring talent. I would be shocked if we saw the Sox circumnavigate the CBA and stomach those penalties, Plus, the Sox certainly value South American talent a lot less than most other teams around the league. I do think your general idea is an operable plan that could turn out to be incredibly beneficial with a new CBA looming, however, it doesn't seem like a move our team would make. Just for fun and to delve into your idea a bit, the Sox ability to work with pitchers and keep them healthy makes this idea even more lucrative. If they forfeited the 2015 pick and lost Samardzija three first round pool allotments would be ridiculous. They could go under slot with a Hoffman/Fedde type and bring in another top 50 talent in the later rounds with the additional funds available. That would be an incredible draft to follow for a fan. With the change in the front office, I wonder if this will continue to hold true. It honestly shocked me when we went over the spending cap, into the fine territory for the rule 4 draft.

I have no doubt the Sox want one of Johnson or Sanchez to win the 2B job. Beckham is not an ideal scenario for the team either, or they wouldn't have let him walk away in the first place. Maybe some real competition will be the trick to waking him up.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Feb 23, 2015 -> 01:13 PM) "Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 3m3 minutes ago Robin Ventura sounds very open to starting season with eight relievers. Bench flexibility makes it possible. #WhiteSox" Bench flexibility, or lack of outfielders? Opens up another potential spot for Rodon

Brian Hedger ‏@BrianHedger 31m31 minutes ago Also, van Riemsdyk is "real close," after battle drills, Nordstrom is looking to "bring energy" to this downtrodden bunch & Crawford is fine

Mark Lazerus ‏@MarkLazerus 36m36 minutes ago Johnny Oduya will miss "a couple of weeks," per Quenneville. #Blackhawks

Jeff Wilson ‏@JeffWilson_FWST 7m7 minutes ago #Rangers announce that Jurickson Profar will likely miss the season after labrum repair today. Possible he hits late in season.

The reality with Beachy is clear One team already ran away from him, most likely due to his medicals. The Dodgers not only have him a roster spot, but also a guaranteed amount of money, all for a guy that isn't pitching until June, at the very earliest. The White Sox have already brought Brad Penny, Matt Albers, and Jesse Crain into camp on minor league deals, which have no promise of anything. Sure Beachy could pan out, but the Sox have already brought themselves some lottery tickets into camp, and let's face it, Beachy probably had better options for both chances to pitch, and for money. He could have been nice to have, but isn't worth losing any sleep over. The reality is that he probably closer to Felipe Paulino then he is to Hector Noesi this year.

jon greenberg ‏@jon_greenberg 2h2 hours ago Bulls will try to improve on their 9-2 record when Hinrich doesn't play. Their 11-5 record when he plays 30+ minutes will remain unchanged.

Moncada runners up. Dodgers offered $35 million.. if he would have waited until July 2. No mention of the Sox of White. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/02/deta...an-moncada.html

Tracey Myers ‏@TramyersCSN 43m43 minutes ago #Blackhawks lines in drills: 20-19-81, 10-91-88, 29-65-23, 42-16-28 (Carcillo in the mix there too).

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 23, 2015 -> 09:51 AM) I wasn't necessarily advocating going overslot. Just looking at leaning towards a certain position. Maybe slightly over if that is what it takes. Depending on what the picks in front of us look like, I see a better chance of us going underslot, and trying to use that to make up for the picks we don't have later in the draft.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Feb 23, 2015 -> 12:03 PM) My wife and I love 12 Monkeys. I'm really surprised by how well done it is. They do a great job with the time travel aspect. I loved the original movie, and gave the series a chance for no other reason than that. I came in fully prepared to be disappointed, and instead really have enjoyed it.

What about that Paulino guy? I hear he has some ceiling. [runs away]

Out of curiosity, who knows anything about Lync? Besides being a message program, does it have any other functions, such as keystroke tracking? Someone told me this, but I am not finding anything that verifies it.

QUOTE (LDF @ Feb 23, 2015 -> 11:06 AM) therein is the crux of this discussion, they are not loosing money their only income with the TV deal coming into the equation. they, the owners should expect a profit, but don't pretend to really field a team to win. There is a lot more than goes into a team than just the team payroll. They did lose money last year (the 2013 season). The numbers aren't in yet for this year (2014 season). As a franchise they are estimated to have made $210 million in revenues, and lost $2.7 million while doing it. That means the team spent somewhere around $213 million in total expenditures, with a payroll that was just under $119 million. This includes all of the TV money, and everything else. http://www.forbes.com/teams/chicago-white-sox/

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 1h1 hour ago The #Yankees offered $25 million and were willing to go to $27 million, per @Joelsherman1

QUOTE (LDF @ Feb 23, 2015 -> 11:00 AM) exactly and that is why the sox will do just enuf to bring in the fans without over spending to winning it all. I would buy into the fans sob story a bit more if they didn't abandon ship at the first chance. The Sox have a bandwagon fanbase, which is fine. But you can't hold it against ownership when they are leery of making too big of an investment in something they know they could lose their ass in.