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QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 08:53 AM) Not yet, usually mid-February. Feb 27 or 28, I believe.

That leaves Flowers, right?

Did LeBron talk to Cardale?

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 15, 2015 -> 03:05 PM) Compared to Jeter Jeter lead MLB in runs once and hits twice and has 400 more total hits Biggio lead in runs twice, doubles and SB once, has 31 more HR, 83 less K's and 78 more walks Biggio didn't play SS.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jan 15, 2015 -> 02:01 PM) I agree with the part about Buehrle never being the best and maybe just a step below, but the Hall of Fame is full of guys who were never the best. Plenty have made it just by being very good for a long time. Take Biggio for instance. Did anybody ever really think they were watching a Hall of Famer when watching him? I know I didn't. The thing that got him in was hitting that magical number of 3000 hits. If he ends up with 2800 hits, I don't think he gets in. I think Buehrle is a similar case. To get in, he really needs the 300 wins and that is a long shot. He would need 7+ years of his average total to get there. If he ends up with 240 or so wins he'll be a guy who stays on the ballot awhile and maybe comes close to election but will probably fall just short. I see him getting the Jack Morris, Tommy John, Jim Kaat type treatment. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with being Jack Morris, Tommy John, or Jim Kaat. They all had hell of careers. Buehrle will be remembered he just probably won't get a plaque unless he can keep going strong and decides to pitch until he's 42 or 43. Biggio was one of the leagues best 2B's and hitting C's for a period of time. 7 ASG's and 2 top 5 MVP's. Led MLB in individual categories at different times, including steals, 2B's, and runs. The big counting number of 3k hits is also big.

Reasons to be optimistic about an extension for Jeff. #1, the Cubs offer was awful. There was no good reason for him to sign it. We don't know how he would react to a realistically competitive offer. #2, after spending time in Oakland, he had some pretty pointed comments about the organization in his press conference. After being somewhere like that, it might leave a lasting impact about not wanting to be somewhere like that, making him more likely than he was before to consider signing long term. #3, he is back "home", and really seemed genuinely happy to be here. There is something to be said for familiarity. #4, There is a lot of room between what the Cubs offered, and where the apparent market rates are for the Sox and Jeff to come to some sort of agreement. #5, the White Sox have done some long term deals for starting pitchers they believe in. #6, there is room for Jeff to sign a big deal early and it still set a nice precedence for early signing deals, that would still set a new market rate. There aren't a lot of those type of deals signed, so a 5/110 deal would still have a use to the union.

Jones is a Raiders or Cowboys draft pick if I ever saw one.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 15, 2015 -> 12:35 PM) Tom Glavine also won the Cy Young award twice, twice finished 2nd, and twice finished 3rd. That's 6 seasons where he was considered by the voters to be one of the 3 best pitchers in the league. Buehrle's highest finish was 5th in 2005. That's a significant difference. Personally though, I think Buehrle does merit some consideration for the Hall of Fame. He's currently 83rd all time in fWAR for pitchers at 51.8. A 2.5 fWAR season puts him at 72nd all time, ahead of guys like Carl Hubbell, Tommy Bridges, and Javier Vazquez (yes), while a 3 fWAR season moves him ahead of Billy Pierce and Luis Tiant for 70th all time. Using ERA as our basis for WAR (bWAR or RA9-WAR), he's currently 86th at 59.2, 0.1 behind CC Sabathia. A 3 bWAR season puts him at 62.2, tied with Frank Tanana and just behind Andy Pettitte. He's not going to win a major pitching award at this point, but he'll get 200 wins and it's certainly possible that, if he pitched another 3-4 years, he could conceivably end up around the 60 fWAR area and the 65 bWAR area, and I think, to some extent, that diminishes his ability to hold runners on base and prevent runners from stealing as well as his fielding prowess. Not sure if I think he is a Hall of Famer or not, but his career isn't over. I think he'll remain on the ballot for a few years but will ultimately fall short. Perhaps I'm wrong. This is it exactly. Buehrle is never going to get into the Hall of Fame because he never was thought of as the best. Even at his best, he was at least one tier below the best pitchers in the game. For my two cents, my top HOF criteria is how dominant they were in their era of the game. Mark Buehrle was never dominant. Really good? Sure.

Jenifer Langosch ‏@LangoschMLB 15m15 minutes ago Can confirm that #stlcards have signed Lance Lynn to a three-year contract; an official announcement by the team is expected soon.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 15, 2015 -> 12:07 PM) Today is a week. Wonder if it's outright day to Charlotte. I thought a DFA gave 10 days, then he can declare for FA or take an assignment if they outright him?

Chicago White Sox ‏@whitesox 45m45 minutes ago The first 20,000 fans who attend the game will receive a replica Konerko statue, presented by XFINITY.

Tracey Myers ‏@TramyersCSN 4m4 minutes ago #Blackhawks lines: 20-19-81, 29-91-88, 10-65-86, 13-16-28.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 15, 2015 -> 10:59 AM) Lol at the Yankees getting 3 slots. Now the entire nation will know that they will suck this year. And their ratings will still be multiples higher than anyone else's.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 15, 2015 -> 10:59 AM) I didnt think losing Dunleavy would hurt as much as it has, but it seems like it really put the rotations out of whack And it has forced Jimmy to play a ton of minutes.

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Jan 15, 2015 -> 10:10 AM) http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/12167650...er-less-tickets Imagine buying one of these and missing out on a WS game 7. That's really the only reason you'd get this, for a clinch game or game 7 of WS Yeah, I would imagine you would have to say that you'd have to add a caveat that as long as ticket are available you can have your ticket.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 15, 2015 -> 09:56 AM) I'm not saying that, I'm just saying I don't buy the logic that "if guy A is in, similar guy B has to be in" in general because there are so many mistakes there already. The 60 fWAR rule was a Bill James "rule of thumb" I read in his book, I think. Totally agree with you on this. It just leads to the argument we see above where you line up their stats and if they are really close, you put them in. That isn't what the HOF is about.

I am reading a translation of the Dead Sea scrolls now, then The World Until Yesterday: What Can We Learn from Traditional Societies by Jared Diamond. I already read Collapse and Guns, Germs, and Steel by him. http://www.amazon.com/World-Until-Yesterda...asap_bc?ie=UTF8

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Jan 14, 2015 -> 10:53 PM) The only move I'd want that would add to payroll at all is a multiyear extension for Eaton. He does what he does and he does it very well, buy out his arb years and a couple years of FA. The other move I'd like, which wouldn't add much payroll at all, is a Dayan Viciedo + for Jackie Bradley Jr. A bench of: C- Kotteras/Brantly/Nieto/whatever INF- Tyler Saladino UTIL- Emilio Bonifacio 4OF- Jackie Bradley Jr Really seems perfect to me, but with RH Dayan Viciedo soaking up a spot on the bench it keeps Saladino from the big league club (you need 1 LH bat off the bench that isn't a C). The options for defensive substitutions and pinch running with that bench are almost bottomless. Keep in mind that LaRoche will be on the bench any time we face a lefty, so that gives a lot more power to the bench than meets the eye. Eaton is one young guy I would not want to extend. With the way he plays the game, I could see his body betraying him very quickly.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 14, 2015 -> 08:29 PM) Our discussion was "who is going to replace churches as a social welfare organization". Churches receive like half a trillion dollars a year in this country, in addition to nearly $100 billion in public subsidies. Their land and salaries are by far the largest charity in this country. In the event that there was no such thing as a church, even if overall donations decreased, that is a huge pool of potential additional money for "good works" or however you described it. What the final math would be regarding how much money would go to improving the nation I do not know, but neither do you. Therefore, you don't get to say "But without religion who would do good works?" Religion does good works while taking a large slice off the top to sustain itself. That makes it an inefficient way of doing good works. Again that sounds like very large not-for-profit in this country. Sounds like our government too.

They are just too small without both Dunleavy and McDermott. They get killed when they run the two small guards out there. Plus without Noah, the front line defense is just terrible.

QUOTE (BigFinn @ Jan 14, 2015 -> 06:49 PM) Here's' the website: Statcorner.com Tyler Flowers is 24th from rock bottom, or 90th from the top depending on how you look at it. I am fairly sure I remember this discussion from before, and there was a pretty big discrepancy between two different sites on how they viewed TFlows pitch framing.

Seth Lakso ‏@SethLakso 20m20 minutes ago As of right now, @KnightsBaseball CF Jordan Danks is still in DFA limbo.

Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 5m5 minutes ago From BA: "I’m more excited to sign right now than I was when I got drafted in the first round."

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jan 14, 2015 -> 02:57 PM) You're right, out of 113 catchers, he was ranked 90th. So technically he was not the worst, but he's still far below average. Rene Rivera ranked 5th best, out of 113. I seem to remember another pitch framing metric putting Flowers at the middle of the pack, no?

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jan 14, 2015 -> 04:03 PM) what, your point about the grievance? OK. It's a fair point but only tangential, thus I didn't bother to address it. He's (imo) unlikely to win, and even if he does, it probably won't be publicized. The real point of this entire discussion is that the Sox are almost certainly not on the hook for the full 4.4 million if they cut him in the spring. That point keeps getting missed over and over and over again everywhere on the White Sox Internets. A potential grievance over a cut has been discussed in multiple places, so it is relevant, especially when you have an agent who goes for every single penny he thinks he can get. He used exactly that tactic to get a new deal for Bryce Harper.