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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 2, 2014 -> 11:06 AM) Given cost control and the price of the output, I wouldn't trade much more than Quintana himself for Stanton. He's a free agent after 2016 and he's going to cost $20+ mill a year (and it could be closer to $25 mill) to retain long term. I think the most likely way a team trades for Stanton is a big package of prospects plus Garcia. I figured something like Anderson, Beck, Montas, Sanchez/Johnson/Semien, and Garcia gets you close. Mike Stanton will draw a near ARod/Cabrera contract on the free agent market. $20 million would be a bargain. $25 million is an opening bid.

https://twitter.com/TeddyGreenstein/status/...825899460018176

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 2, 2014 -> 08:42 AM) Some people just seemed to be obsessed with moving Q. Example A: Why the hell would we trade a player that advanced stats and traditional scouts love that is a lefty, under 30, on a team friendly contract that produces great numbers? He's 25. He can theoretically still get better. I'd say Jose is at his absolute peak. I won't argue with that. I just don't subscribe to the theory that you HAVE to maximize asset value, and trade him. As I said, if you can get a superstar hitter, AND you are willing to spend on another top flight RHSP, then you do the deal.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Sep 2, 2014 -> 07:59 AM) I've never understood moving Quintana at this juncture. You'd be moving Quintana in the hopes that at least one of them turns out like Quintana, so that you can sign him to a deal like Quintana's (when we don't have to move or need to move Quintana). The only way you move Jose Quintana is if you are getting a true superstar hitter, and are giving out a big contract to a RHSP. So if Jose and others bring you Mike Stanton, sure. You don't deal him for prospects.

QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Sep 1, 2014 -> 08:06 PM) I'll bet $56mm he's not that upset.... Money doesn't always equal happiness. Just ask Robin Williams.

QUOTE (professa @ Sep 1, 2014 -> 06:35 PM) Trade danks for edwin jackson and throw in some cash. Jackson's FIP is 4.33 this season and 3.79 last so he's better than the numbers say. Then take a flier on a guy like Josh Beckett, Justin Masterson, or a Colby Lewis. Heck I would even be ok with Jake returning for a season. Noesi is serviceable, but not someone you want on a contending team. Nowadays, an era over 4.00 is poor, especially if he is not going to give you 200 IP. Flip him for a reliever or something, while he still has value. Some guys are just not as good as their numbers say, whether it is a flaw in the numbers, or whatever else can be argued. Edwin Jackson is one of those guys. Incredible stuff, just never quite realized how to use it.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Aug 31, 2014 -> 07:32 PM) Can't imagine it will be anywhere but B'Ham. That is going to have a lot to do with the pitchers in front of him as well.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 1, 2014 -> 11:37 AM) I don't think Garcia struggling lately means anything. The guy was out a long time. It is going to take a while to get back to normal. The kid is effectively still in spring training.

QUOTE (Wickel @ Sep 1, 2014 -> 09:10 AM) Turmoil where? How about starting with the pitching staff? How about the lame bullpen? And both are the result of a non-responsive GM (although he was a major improvement over the beleaguered Kenny W). I, for one, thought we missed a golden opportunity in July to bolster the staff before the trade deadline. Our offense was more than holding its own--although Hahn is slowly dismantling it--and a few strategic moves in the pen and maybe adding a viable No. 4 or No. 5 starter would've worked miracles. Hell, getting a strong No. 3 would have sufficed. We were only six or seven games back at the time, with Abreu burning a a path on the diamond. But this happens every year, probably thanks to the big boss Mr. Reinsdork! Oh good lord. Anyone who expected this team to compete, even with during their hot streaks, was reading WAY too much into some high points in the season. This is, and has always been, a rebuilding year.

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 31, 2014 -> 11:51 PM) The personal disdain people have for players like Dunn worries and disappoints me Totally. Unless Adam Dunn kicked your dog, I don't get the personal hatred for him. Save that for the real d-bags in sports who drive drunk, use drugs, beat their wives, etc.

There is nothing to say that if Tanaka signed with the White Sox, he would still be having elbow problems.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 31, 2014 -> 03:07 PM) It's close. It might even be statistically close, but Navarro is the tie breaker himself.

Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 15m Dunn on PK: "Me and Paul will be friends forever. He’s older, so he’ll probably die first." More Dunn on PK: "You can't say anymore on him that hasn't already been said."

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 31, 2014 -> 01:15 PM) Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter · 3h Bad Timing And Decision: 49ers DT Ray McDonald allegedly involved in domestic violence dispute. I guess Adam Schefter approves of domestic violence in February or March? Bad timing as he gets to be the first to test the new policy.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Aug 31, 2014 -> 02:41 PM) Finishing his career in a s*** hole is the perfect ending for a turd. Poor Adam Dunn. Getting to go to the playoffs.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 31, 2014 -> 01:41 PM) He's saying that after how Dunn was treated, no one would have blamed him if he was an ass to everyone This.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 31, 2014 -> 02:44 PM) De Aza missed his flight to Baltimore after they made him active. D'oh. He just got there... https://twitter.com/masnOrioles/status/5061...0058624/photo/1 Apparently De Aza treated his flight like a fly ball to LF...

QUOTE (daggins @ Aug 31, 2014 -> 11:07 AM) Probably, not many contenders are looking for a SS and he is due a sizable (though deserved) paycheck next year. I doubt they trade him, this is just one of those Sunday lineups. He just played a DH yesterday.

I am interested to see if they move this kid back to starting.

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Aug 31, 2014 -> 10:21 AM) Wilkins, Sierra and Snodgress in the clubhouse, per Merkin So does that mean another pitcher is on his way out, or Surkamp is being sent down?

QUOTE (spiderman @ Aug 31, 2014 -> 10:10 AM) Maybe you answered already, but what do you view as a reasonable payroll for the White Sox next season. If the low end is $60M, what do you expect that they will do? My guess is the 80-90 million range, though it wouldn't shock me if they came in a bit less simply because they didn't get their initial targets and don't want to spend, just to spend.

Wait until the Sox bring him back next year...

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 31, 2014 -> 09:51 AM) I think Dunn's an A+ human being who has put in his absolute best effort for the White Sox. I have nothing but good wishes for him. This. If anyone should have been a raging asshole after all that happened while he was here, it was Dunn. He has been nothing but class.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 30, 2014 -> 09:54 PM) Yup, let's start with some history, six out of the seven years prior to this season the Sox had a $100M+ payroll. And then let's consider your beloved Forbes numbers, where the Sox lost $3M last year with a $120M payroll. Now add some common sense, like an additional $20M in national TV money and the fact that the Sox offered Tanaka a seven figure deal this past offseason, and it's easy to see a $100M payroll next year is beyond a reasonable assumption. Then add back the Abreu signing bonus, plus the much higher draft costs, plus the losses at the gates, plus the losses of advertising, etc.

Thankfully this will all be over soon.