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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 10:47 AM) Of course you knew that was going to be in there. I said 99% in the other thread, and I will stay with it.

99.9999%

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 10:37 AM) Not at all. Guys outperform their FIPs all the time, especially soft-tossers. Buehrle's career ERA of 3.80 - a difference of .32 - is not significantly different. It's not a stretch to assume that Milone could put up an ERA of 3.75-4.00, especially considering his FIP this year appears inflated overall (career FIP 4.14/xFIP 4.20 in 468.2 IP). Even so, are people here really THAT opposed to acquiring a guy that could put up a 4.25-4.50 ERA who is entering his prime and under team control for the next 3 years? It would be WAY down my list of things we need to grab, but if the deal was right, you do it.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 10:40 AM) It was to act as a mentor and to act as a platoon partner against lefties because Dunn is terrible against lefties. The power remains but any sign of hitting for average that he had goes out the wayside. This was said from the outset. The average suffers, as does the power. The numbers suffer across the board. He is career 81 OPS+ against lefties.

The victim in the "slender man" attempted murder has received over $50k in gifts, plus a veterans purple heart. While certain people may dominate the news, 99% of the world is great people. We shouldn't lose sight of that. http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/wisco...lFlowFB_CHBrand

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 10:19 AM) If you do not understand FIP, I don't know what to tell you. Edwin Jackson has a 4.27 FIP and another $25 million owed to him. His fastball velocity is down 2 full mph since leaving the Sox. That screams declining stuff, and a bad contract to me.

The White Sox have been really looking at extreme tool guys. A lot of guys they brought in are 70/80 speed, or 70/80 power projections. It will be interesting to see what happens with them.

Jackson would make sense if we were trying to dump a bad contract ourselves, but that isn't really the case. Unless the Cubs want to package up a Bernstein type deal where they pay us a top prospect along with taking on Jackson, I see no good reason to do this.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 09:28 AM) 56 PAs is not a big enough sample size to prove anything. Between 2012-2013 Dunn hit 21 HRs in 305 ABs versus left handed pitching. That is 1 every 14.5 ABs. Against right handers he hit 54 HRs in 759 ABs. That's 1 every 14.05 ABs. It's not his power numbers that suffer against lefties. You are also leaving out the fact that when you only play every 2 out 3 or 3 out of 4 games it is hard to get in a rhythm. Dunn's value has been hurt this year by our owner insisting on hanging on to Konerko and letting him take ABs away from Dunn when it was clearly time to move on. For his entire career the guy is sporting an OPS+ of 81 against lefties. His career HR/BA is 17.2 against lefties. Using his career numbers would give you three additional homers. I do appreciate the data manipulation technique though. Here are his HR/BA against lefties over his 4 years here. 2011 0/94 2012 15/183 2013 6/122 2014 1/56 During his entire time with Chicago you get 22 homers against lefties in 455 ABs. 2012 is a modern outlier. You could argue that 2011 is as well, but now you also have 2014. Realistically, he is a homer per 20 AB guy against lefties in this day and age. Even if older numbers basically show that, except for one year where he was 1/15. Going back further 2010 9/166 2009 7/168 2008 10/154 2007 9/188 2006 11/224 2005 13/224

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 09:35 AM) At some point aren't the Bulls out of roster spots? Rose, Butler, McDermott, Gasol, Noah, Taj, Mirotic, Hinrich, Dunleavy, Snell, the other 2nd rounder, Brooks...Marion? Or is the choice between Marion and Brooks? They can carry up to 15. 12 can be active on any one night. More than anything it depends on cap room and luxury tax numbers. Marion would make 13.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 08:17 AM) He's certainly going to be on my top 25 but seriously the excitement should be tempered. He's still older than most people at Charlotte (Turns 26 in Now with all that said, the White Sox absolutely have a need for a LH hitter in their lineup and they have an opening at DH in the near future, and having some ability to be a backup 1b to give Abreu time off (HA!) would be useful too. But we're not talking about Adam Dunn in his prime. If his minor league numbers carry over we're talking about a guy who K's less than Dunn, gets on base less than Dunn, homers less than Dunn, but who gets more hits than Dunn and is very cheap for a couple years. That could be very useful to fill a lineup hole if he can translate, but there's important limits here. Plus it really seems like the new Charlotte park is playing like a bandbox this year.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 07:45 AM) Why would anyone want to leave an obvious playoff team? And then going public with it. Because he is not on a playoff team. He is in the minors.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 03:39 AM) Dunn's hitting plenty of HRs. He has hit one every 19.5 ABs this year. 19th best in all of baseball. Right on par with Pujols and Bautista. The reason his power numbers look so low is because he's lost 100+ PAs to our mascot. Add another 5-6 HRs and 15 RBIs and his numbers look a whole lot better. Considering the fact that Konerko is playing basically mostly against lefties, and we all know how Dunn hits lefties, I'd argue the case that the reason Dunn's numbers are so "good" is because his exposure to his main weakness has been limited somewhat this year. Dunn is 7-46 in 56 PAs against lefties this year, putting up a stellar .152BA .286OBP .239SLG .525OPS against them. He has exactly 1 homer in 56 ABs. Note that his slugging percentage is LESS than his OBP. That isn't easy to do. On the other side, Konerko against lefties .267BA .300OBP .467SLG .767OPS, That is in 80PA/75 AB. If you to add those 75 ABs to Dunn's totals, along with the same .152 BAA that he has put up against lefties this years, Dunns BA would drop to .207 on the season. His HR/BA and all of this other power numbers would take a huge hit as well.

QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Jul 21, 2014 -> 10:14 PM) [EatonPullsHamstring]

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 21, 2014 -> 09:55 PM) Even Hawk was giving some love to AAA farmhand Andy Wilkins. No one else does, even the Top 20 prospect list on the team web site. He is not on it, but a bunch of non-performers are. Wilkins is hitting the cover off the ball, leading the league in HR's, and not a mention. Same on FutureSox in all those top 10/20 lists. Not that I criticizing FutureSox, because I really like it. Kudos to Hawk. Going off of Hawks record as a GM, I would go with what FutureSox saids.

I wonder if Sale pitches the 8th?

That was the facing of the 300 level Flowers hit that ball to.

That ball was destroyed. That easily lands on the concourse if it was fair. Maybe even of the fundementals ramps.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 21, 2014 -> 09:02 PM) I'm not racist. I just don't want blacks being a distraction at my lunch counter. He's being a distraction at Soxtalk. Should I ban him? After all, I have to keep my customers happy, right?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 21, 2014 -> 09:00 PM) Cute! It's still bulls*** logic though. Except its not. In Dungy's lifetime, blacks weren't playing pro sports, because they would be a distraction.

Nice way to finish it.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 21, 2014 -> 08:47 PM) I love that you live in fantasyland, but come back to reality. These people are about running a business and making money. And they do it in the most secretive way possible. Drafting Sam is inviting a lot of attention. I get that you think that's great attention, but it might not be for every franchise. And lol at you thinking there wouldn't be protests. There were f'n protests for Michael Vick. Sam plays in St. Louis, not exactly the most liberal city in America. There SHOULDN'T be a problem, and I hope there's not. But doesn't mean there won't be additional issues that are raised IF he ends up playing a lot. And I'm not saying security risks like they have to hire 40 more guards for the inevitable riot. But they will have to be prepared for something. Remember Christians are all wacko's hell-bent on violence right? Again, my position is you can be pro-Sam and still understand the baggage that comes with it. Baggage comes with a lot of players but they're generally worth the hassle. Sam may not be. You as an owner deciding that on those basis does not make you a dumb bigot, a terrible person or a coward. OK, I can't take you seriously if you are going to equate the torture and murder of animals to being gay.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jul 21, 2014 -> 08:37 PM) Saw the play, maybe try and pull the ball for once instead of going up the middle when the hit and run is on. I blame Robin more though, never really like the hit and run at the MLB level. When the hit and run is on, your job is to make contact.

QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Jul 21, 2014 -> 08:30 PM) Gordon hit it up the middle if Ale wasn't going it might of been a hit. Can't have your cake and eat it too. It would have been a hit. The play was in front of Alej. As soon as he saw the SS picking up the ball, his thought should have been trying to stop the DP. Instead his slide barely took him to the base, let alone through it.