southsider2k5

Too many chances, not enough big hits today.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jun 15, 2014 -> 11:40 AM) As judged by Rick Hahn. Well trolled. You can judge that this trade is bad, but can't judge what was out there that was actually available.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 15, 2014 -> 05:42 AM) I remember that under Bush, no emails or tapes of torture were ever lost or intentionally destroyed. And I remember no one believing that line of BS...

He learned to hit the outer half slider, and he hasn't seen on in a month now. Now it is all about the high and out fastball. Until he learns how to layoff of it, or foul it off, he is screwed.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 14, 2014 -> 09:44 PM) Bar bet: ask someone to name two countries that border the Ivory Coast. With all of my years in futures, about the only thing I know about IC, is most of the worlds cocoa comes from there.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jun 14, 2014 -> 09:55 PM) He turned Peavy, Rios, Santiago, and Reed into nothing. This is your worst post yet.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 14, 2014 -> 03:31 PM) Your poor grammar aside, aren't you exaggerating just a bit? You LOVE Paulina? Not like, not understand, but you LOVE the Paulina signing? You LOVE Mitch Boggs? Not like, not understand, but you LOVE the Boggs signing? You LOVE the Davidson trade? You LOVE the Sierra signing? You LOVE de Aza? Boggs and Paulino together cost about $2.5 million, or $1.5 million more than two rookies would cost. Who gives a crap if guys like that fail. He tried them out, they failed, and then next man up. That is what is to love about Hahn.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jun 14, 2014 -> 11:30 AM) No, it "is" a Jerry thing, just as it "was" a Comiskey, Veeck, and Allyn thing when they were the owners. You're correct, though: no owner of the Sox has been able to build sustainable success, which is why the franchise has had these attendance problems for decades upon decades. But Reinsdorf is the owner now, so the spotlight and microscope is on him. And my point in responding to a poster before, who rightfully pointed out that the solution to the attendance problem was to build a ball club capable of sustainable success, was suggesting we try a new owner. The current one has been at this for 34 years now, and has proven, to date, incapable of building such a consistent winner. If you want to measure it historically, the JR era is the most successful in franchise history, really by any measure.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 11:30 PM) f*** you Alex Martinez. Congrats to the Kings,they earned it, great hockey team with a little puck luck. See you in the 2015 Western Conference Finals. 4 of the last 5 cups belong to Chicago and LA. Crazy.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 07:33 PM) Didn't he add like 2 mph last year Exactly. Were you expecting him to add 2 mph each year or something?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 07:31 PM) He made a big leap from rookie year to last year. It wasn't out of the question to hope for more. Yes it was. There was nothing in his stuff that suggested he was the type of guy that was going to have a sub three ERA or anything.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 07:29 PM) You think so? The advanced stats seem to be in line with his career. His FIP coming into this game was 3.06, or half of a run better than his ERA>

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 07:25 PM) Q has just been awful since the Gillaspie error in LA. His lack of development this year is disappointing. Development? I can't see how anyone would really expect anything more than what we saw out of him last year. To me that was as optimistic as I ever really thought possible for Quintana.

It looks to me like Royals have picked up a tell on Quintana. They are all over him, even some decent pitches.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 06:04 PM) I say open up the Trade Winds Forum. It's about that time in the summer. The question is, are the sox buyers or sellers this summer? Can they perhaps be both???? Why? There hasn't been a single real rumor involving the White Sox, or just about any team, to this point. At this point all we would get is the we should trade for this player type of threads. When that changes, then we will put the forum up.

Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 6m Tyler Flowers is 18-for-100 since April 30 but is confident he has taken steps to correct one big problem. More soon in today's CWS Beat

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 04:42 PM) Most definitely. But there is a difference between a borderline first-round talent (Adams) and the consensus top prospect in the Draft (Aiken). And no one is ranking him #1 either to reflect that difference.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 12:48 PM) Still haven't gotten figures for the Sox 8th and 9th round picks as of yet. BUT if Ziznewski gets the same $40k as Lechich, and Clark gets his slot dollars, the Sox will have $356,300 extra money left over that they can offer to either Rodon or De Oca without going into fines territory. For Rodon, that means they could offer him $6,077,800. If Ziznewski signs for $10,000, that number goes to $6,107,800. Jim Callis ‏@jimcallisMLB 6m Looks like @WhiteSox saved $385,600 vs pool in rds 2-10. If won't pay tax (haven't before), leaves max of $6,107,100 for Rodon. @MLBDraft So that means they corrected Adams and added back the $700 they didn't have him for, and Ziznewski is a $10k bonus, while Clark is slot.

Chuck Garfien ‏@ChuckGarfien 38m As it stands right now, Chris Sale is in line to start against Mark Buehrle June 28th in Toronto.

Doug Padilla ‏@ESPNChiSox 3m Chris Sale's porn/CHP mustache is no more. Said he was sick of it a week ago, and finally went to the razor.

Comcast SportsNet ‏@CSNChicago 52m Report: Carmelo Anthony is opting out of his deal with the #Knicks - http://bit.ly/SGGhW8 #BullsTalk pic.twitter.com/oTHThHevNw

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 02:33 PM) The difference between division I collegiate athletics and random High School athletics is massive not only in the talent gap, but the relative standardization of talent and the visibility of both the prosepcts themselves and their performances. MASSIVE difference between Rodon and any HS player in terms of what everyone knows about them. In this day and age, top HS kids are just as scouted as anyone else. I doubt anyone wouldn't put an 18 year old ARod or KGJr at the top of their list just because they were HS kids. Same with Aiken or Kolek this year. No reason not to rank them where they should go. We aren't talking about kids pitching in the wilderness where no one sees them.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 02:28 PM) jon greenberg ‏@jon_greenberg 20m Aside from his Opening Day start, Sox averaging 18,464 fans in six Sale starts. Sox season average: 19,765. What needs to be said is that this is BS number manipulation. Throw out opening day as an attendance fluke, right? So why not throw out the Yankees series as a fluke for the same reason when it comes to games Sale didn't start? The same idea still holds true, that assloads of people were going to those games no matter what. Take out the Yankees starts without Sale, and the number drops to 18,463. Not as good of another attendance story then, is it? FWIW, if you add back Opening Day, Sale's # jumps to 21,172.

jon greenberg ‏@jon_greenberg 20m Aside from his Opening Day start, Sox averaging 18,464 fans in six Sale starts. Sox season average: 19,765. What needs to be said is that this is BS number manipulation. Throw out opening day as an attendance fluke, right? So why not throw out the Yankees series as a fluke for the same reason when it comes to games Sale didn't start? The same idea still holds true, that assloads of people were going to those games no matter what. Take out the Yankees starts without Sale, and the number drops to 18,463. Not as good of another attendance story then, is it?

Still haven't gotten figures for the Sox 8th and 9th round picks as of yet. BUT if Ziznewski gets the same $40k as Lechich, and Clark gets his slot dollars, the Sox will have $356,300 extra money left over that they can offer to either Rodon or De Oca without going into fines territory. For Rodon, that means they could offer him $6,077,800. If Ziznewski signs for $10,000, that number goes to $6,107,800.