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QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 10:32 PM) The idea is to get deep in the count so the pitcher throws you a good hitter's pitch. You're a lot more likely to get a good pitch 3-1 than on 1-1. Its slow pitch softball. Almost any pitch is a hitters pitch.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jun 5, 2014 -> 09:19 AM) His deal isn't nearly as big as it looks. 49ers pretty much made it a year to year deal for the first few years. I think they are paying him for what he is going to do, not for what he's done. Is it not $61 million guaranteed?

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 5, 2014 -> 09:06 AM) But you can do better at #3 overall. You can probably get a higher ceiling, but you probably aren't getting a higher floor or lower bust potential.

RIP to a true baseball personality.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 09:39 PM) As of now, something seems wrong with his hitting. I mentioned in another thread that so far, he's been a bust. Doesn't mean for a second I'm ready to give up on him. I think we can all agree we just don't want another situation where the closer is traded for someone that just falls apart relatively quickly in the minors. Bust implies the player's fate has been decided.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 08:18 PM) I think it's completely fair to say that the return we got for Rios was underwhelming and that had we been willing to pay the rest of his 2013 salary we would have gotten a much better return. Clearly the Sox were looking for financial flexibility in the Rios deal and that's what they got. Not sure I agree with that decision, but it definitely impacted the overall return. Also, like Dick Allen & raBBit have already stated, trading Rios did not result in us getting Abreu. The money would have been there regardless. This team has cut back on payroll because it's doing a semi-rebuild and only wants to commit big money to guys that can be part of the long-term core (Abreu/Tanaka). I think people will be very surprised when they see next year's Forbes' numbers and see exactly how much money the Sox made this year. Considering the team actually lost money last year, I think it is clear the only reason we signed free agents it because of major payroll cuts.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 07:03 PM) Despite all the complaints about the new stadium, the timing was right in terms of where the team was positioned talent-wise going into the early 90's. Couldn't have been more the opposite in Minnesota, for example. The Twins really screwed up by building a stadium that didn't play to type of team their franchise had been putting on the field for decades.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 5, 2014 -> 08:41 AM) He was very impressive last night. He kept going away, away, away with slow stuff, and then when he got two strikes, he painted the inside corner with a fastball. His last three starts 23.1IP, 3ER, 13H, 4BB, 13K, 36GB, 1.16ERA, 0.729WHIP, 3.25K/BB. His ERA has fallen 1.32 points over that time.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 10:50 PM) enough to be a top 5 prospect? In this organization? Absolutely.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 5, 2014 -> 07:56 AM) Nola is the kind of talent you can acquire out of another organization at the AA/AAA level in a trade. We could get a similar or better player out of Alexei and probably another piece. What a massive waste it would be to use the #3 to get the type of talent you already have the pieces for. 1 of Aiken, Kolek, Rodon will be there for sure, and if Jackson goes to MIA then 2 will be there. There is zero reason to take Nola, that's just punting the pick. Upside, upside, upside all day, and "ceiling of #2" when it's all said and done probably means "#3/#4." God damn it Sox don't f*** this thing up. We're not going to be picking this high again for a while, maybe not in a very long time. In 2014 having a cheap, cost-controlled, mid-rotation starter is a huge deal for a team. That saves them eight figures+ per year versus if they actually had to go out and bring one in off of the free agent market.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 5, 2014 -> 07:56 AM) Nola is the kind of talent you can acquire out of another organization at the AA/AAA level in a trade. We could get a similar or better player out of Alexei and probably another piece. What a massive waste it would be to use the #3 to get the type of talent you already have the pieces for. 1 of Aiken, Kolek, Rodon will be there for sure, and if Jackson goes to MIA then 2 will be there. There is zero reason to take Nola, that's just punting the pick. Upside, upside, upside all day, and "ceiling of #2" when it's all said and done probably means "#3/#4." God damn it Sox don't f*** this thing up. We're not going to be picking this high again for a while, maybe not in a very long time. #2/#3 pitchers are easy to acquire? What? And trading a top level SS to get a pitcher isn't "easy", that is pretty big commitment.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 5, 2014 -> 07:27 AM) As long as they don't start trying to sell or spin it as a "bargain" at #3. For the 19th pick and his MLB results so far, Michael Wacha qualifies in every sense of the word. I think it would be pretty unrealistic to expect Nola to be even better than Wacha, and especially so quickly. Everyone will say the same thing. "The top player we had on our draft board", and if they sign underslot, they also give us "flexibility".

Danks has looked like vintage John Danks tonight.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 04:46 PM) BTW, hey Chris, it's Jose. Hola would have worked better, but I digress.

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 10m Carlos Gonzalez placed on DL with left index finger inflammation.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 03:33 PM) $61 mill, most ever Wow.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 03:03 PM) But how does that absolve KW from misallocating funds. He had $4 million for 1 month of Manny after the draft. When he was busted and disgusted, he was able to get Peavy and Rios during the season and after the draft. They claimed at the time this was money they "found". Was it money earmarked for draft picks they decidided against? We won't know that unless they come out and say it, but obviously there were funds available to go overslot if they chose. They didn't choose. When Borchard was there they spent big. Maybe that left a bad taste, but $4 million for one month of Manny was pretty sad. He could have put any of the money into the draft at anytime. He didn't and basically spent it all on major leaguers.

QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 03:22 PM) Colin Kaepernick got paid: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/colin-k...ugh-2020-060414 I wonder what the guaranteed money looks like.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 02:16 PM) Borchard, Joe The White Sox were dead last in all of baseball from 2007 to 2011 in draft spending. They spent $18 million over that time. To drive home how low that was, the Marlins were #29 and spent $21 million or about 15% more.

"Who said we are going to take a pitcher?" KW http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/white-sox/...us-has-narrowed Also

MiLB.com ‏@MiLB 7m The Carolina League All-Star lineup will pack plenty of punch with Joey Gallo, Courtney Hawkins. More: http://atmilb.com/S9lmut

this was a great moment from last nights game. http://wapc.mlb.com/cutfour/2014/06/04/781...from-line-drive

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 01:10 PM) I think I'd be very uncomfortable being one of his next door neighbors. This is what he said

David Schuster 1 hr · Chicago, IL · Joakim Noah made the All-NBA First team along with Lebron James, Kevin Durant, James Harden and Chris Paul. That's a mighty big honor for Noah.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 01:00 PM) That was great. Ventura #10 overall 1988 Thomas #7 overall 1989 Guillen - Intl FA Johnson acquired via trade from the Cardinals for Jose DeLeon who was received for the White Sox to return rule V pick Bobby Bonilla Cora - acquired via trade from Padres Kark - #14 overall 1982 McDowell - #5 overall 1987 Fernandez - #4 overall 1990 Alvarez - Intl FA Hernandez #16 overall 1986 It took a decade of sucking to build that core. Guillen was acquired as a big piece in the trade that sent Lamar Hoyt to SD and brought back Sherm Lollar and others.