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QUOTE (Jerksticks @ May 4, 2014 -> 12:14 AM) We need a RH badass. I figure the one we select in the draft as a bonus arm. We need a guy for 2015 just like the Freddy Garcia trade. Who should we target for Mr. 10yr Anniversary? Maybe target a team weak at MI. We aren't putting together a mass of prospects to trade for a pitcher this year.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 3, 2014 -> 08:17 PM) The point of drafting is to pick the player you think will be the best player on the board, anything else is the old way which got you Broadway and crap like that. The 2 excuses used for the White Sox poor drafts were money allocated and draft position. What you propose would make this draft business as usual. The Sox missed on all the players you mentioned anyway. And NO ONE thought Mike Trout was the best player. That is exactly the point. Your method would have wasted an entire draft for garbage, despite this draft creating plenty of major leaguers, and this team having both plenty of players drafted after the #3 pick and many players drafted after that point being used to generate the roster we have now.

De Los Santos made something like $3000 for doing nothing today.

Also interesting in here is that besides Jo going after Melo, is that Rose might be pushing to dump Boozer. http://www.suntimes.com/sports/basketball/...ml#.U2WSD_ldUbh

Jo recruiting Melo to Chicago. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2050233...o-chicago-bulls

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 3, 2014 -> 06:18 PM) Who in that draft is better than him? The Mariners almost took him at #2. I read a Rosenthal article a couple years ago there were several teams in the mix to draft him, but he fell. The Yankees were going to take him at 29 if he was till there. There were even some mock drafts that had the White Sox picking him. And if he wasn't picked the reason he shouldn't have been is because the team thought the guy they picked was better. You are advocating taking a lesser player to save money for even lesser players. That doesn't make sense with the #3 pick. Again, that is my point. Who IS better. But at that point you are trying to project who will be better down the road. And you are willing to take that projection and sacrifice every single player who would come after the #3 pick for that one player. Even though Mike Trout was picked WAY down the draft board from #3. The best player in that draft wasn't taken #1, #2, or #3. He was taken #29, and pretty no one expected it. There was no outrage on draft day that Mike Trout fell to #29. Your method misses out on Mike Trout. BTW, the #3 pick in 2009? Donovan Tate. Congrats, you got a bust, and no other player to show for it. You also missed on guys like Paul Goldschmit, Jason Kipnis, Wil Myers, and a couple dozen of other major league baseball players.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 3, 2014 -> 01:53 PM) First off they probably could have still made the Jackson deal without Holmberg. Would you rather have just Trout or Webb and Jaye, a year and a half of Jackson and Holmberg pitching in your low minors and the great Jared Mitchell? I would take the best player. In this situation ot is Mike Trout. Apparently you like the other guys better. Except Mike Trout wasn't anywhere near the best player in that draft. One team, REALLY like him. The rest not so much. In your scenario, we don't get Mike Trout. You have made my entire point for me.

QUOTE (Brian @ May 3, 2014 -> 12:45 PM) Who am I mocking? You? Nope. But sorry you're so sensitive. You obviously watch very little NBA. Some is 1 on 1 depending on situation but to say it completely is is false. Not you. The post I was responding to.

QUOTE (oldsox @ May 3, 2014 -> 02:52 PM) Sox arguably have the worst ML roster, having passed Houston on the way down. The minor league system has to be in the bottum five. I'm not sure why you even follow baseball with an outlook like yours.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ May 3, 2014 -> 12:17 PM) And everyone you have listed is a completely replaceable player. Webb has the best shot of being more than replaceable. The point is without that draft, we have none of those guys. You don't just punt on an entire draft, especially in the situation the Sox are in. For everyone who thinks underspending on the draft is bad, this is WAY worse.

QUOTE (Brian @ May 3, 2014 -> 12:17 PM) I like the NHL playoffs but every year someone brings up how they think it's better than every other post season. It's annoying and pointless since it's a different sport. So is mocking anyone who doesn't think this version of the NBA is the bestest thing ever. The modern NBA is just a highly paid game of 21 anymore. It is compete one on one.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 3, 2014 -> 11:48 AM) If you look at the 2009 draft, if the White Sox sat out the entire draft with what they took it wouldn't have hurt the organization at all. Or if they spent the extra $50k it took to sign Trout and passed every other pick they would be in a much better place right now. There are always players available to fill minor league rosters. Guys who might develop into 4th OFs are fine but they are readily available every year for a song. The object at #3 should be to get the guy that will help you win the most games not save money for guys like Walker and Barnum and May and Thompson. David Holmberg was traded for Edwin Jackson. Edwin Jackson was turned into Jason Frasor and Zach Stewart. Jason Frasor was turned into Daniel Webb and Miles Jaye.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 3, 2014 -> 12:06 PM) The what? Maybe one of these days when you are older, I will explain the game to you.

Any OFs not playing in Charlotte today? Dan Hayes ‏@DanHayesCSN 13h Adam Eaton suggests he could land on the DL. Read more about it here. #WhiteSox http://bit.ly/1ugJCub

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 3, 2014 -> 09:39 AM) I want to call Lillard a superstar, but I'm scared to after Paul George made me look like a fool. This has been the best first round in nba history. If you don't think so, you're just too afraid to let go of your childhood. And yet the NHL's first round still topped it.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ May 3, 2014 -> 09:31 AM) Because the bonus caps have existed for two years. It is a brand new system. We haven't had an agent try to test the system in the way Boras might try to do with Rodon if he slips to third overall. Last year, he had Appel and Bryant who went 1-2. This year, Boras wants 1-1 money for Rodon likely who might be going third overall. Even before there was caps a team could have spent their entire budget to get the guy they wanted, and left the rest go. No one ever has.

The final was 5-2, but the Hawks were outplayed for a majority of this game. Just amazing.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 2, 2014 -> 09:04 PM) You were comparing apples to oranges. History isn't comparing anything. It is acknowledgement of the fact that this has NEVER been done in all of MLB history. The next question is WHY.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 2, 2014 -> 09:50 PM) Now you are comparing the NFL draft with the MLB draft? The last 14 drafts, the Sox have drafted and signed 4 players total with a higher career WAR than Ryan Sweeney. Just think about that for a minute. And that narrow focus completely ignores the fact a massive part of our roster consists of guys who we drafted, and then traded, to get the guys who are on our roster. It would be nice if you would actually acknowledge the franchise literally would be lost without those trades. There would be no Garcia, no Eaton, no Davidson, no John Danks, etc.

It is funny how a three game losing streak changes things. Before the Detroit series, there were threads about adding people at the deadline. Now there are threads about trading veterans. I love Soxtalk, but it is kind of mentally ill at times.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 2, 2014 -> 09:02 PM) Yet Petricka and Webb have been asked to go long in games. Another thing is that by destroying your bullpen with these type of games, it could put unnecessary stress on the arms of other starters because they have to go longer due to a banged-up bullpen. Again, welcome to rebuilding. I'm not sure why people are surprised that this isn't easy.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 2, 2014 -> 08:51 PM) Injuring and putting unneeded wear on arms doesn't matter? 90% of that bullpen is transients who won't be on the roster when this team matters.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 2, 2014 -> 08:52 PM) Because the NFL draft is similar to the MLB draft. How many teams have let their entire draft not be signed to sign one player?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 2, 2014 -> 06:44 PM) It is great to think your 2nd-10th round picks will be good players, but the reality is of all the players the White Sox have drafted this century, 3 have career WARs over 6.2. Sale, Gio, and Chris Young. The guy with the 6.2 is Ryan Sweeney. It is ignorant of history to think that you can just give away your draft. Even the great Ditka failed there.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 2, 2014 -> 05:04 PM) Randolph suspended for game 7. You can take Randolph out of the ghetto...