southsider2k5

QUOTE (Special K @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 12:10 PM) I don't think Manny is doing anything, and we could probably get 'em for a couple million... Sure. Once he serves his 100 game suspension.

QUOTE (SnB @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 11:58 AM) Our payroll is too high for us to see the annual "trade for a washed up veteran who was good 5 years ago". This is worth quoting, just so people can read it again. We have no money.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 11:46 AM) Why would Smith schedule a call to the player reps without even knowing exactly what he is going to present? "Ok, we're going to vote. I dont know on what yet, but we'll have something to vote on" The more I think about it, the owners were brilliant. They KNEW the players had no idea what they were voting on. they knew they probably would not like some it (that's Smith's fault in my opinion), so they jumped the gun and make them look bad if they reject an offer that Smith agreed to. I'm sure 99% of the players will just vote how they are told without actually reading the deal anyway.

Really? I am a 21st century trekkie, so I am still way ahead of my time.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 10:46 AM) I agree thats what the owners are doing, I just dont know if its the best move. It really depends on what you want, do you want the deal done or do you want public opinion. Because I think blind votes gets the deal done. I think the owners didn't get rich by being stupid. They are trying to squeeze those last few bucks out of the players by putting them out there in public as the hold up. If the players vote it down, despite the deal not really being done, fans are going to hold it against the players for the most part.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 10:43 AM) I cant believe the owners revealed the outcome of their vote when the players havent even voted yet. If I was part of this, both sides vote at the same time, both sides reveal the outcome at the same time. No way do I let my clients position be known so the other side can come back and go "Well if we could get just 1% more wed have a deal." Not so sure that I like how the players are going about this. The owners totally set this up to change public opinion against the players if they vote this proposal down. Its a pretty dirty, and savvy, move.

QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 10:33 AM) My family used to go to Seaside Heights often when I was young. Something I remember from those trips is to watch your speed while driving through Pennsylvania. It's like the Carol Stream of states when it comes to speed traps. Ohio is not much better. They line up the cops on the overpasses, and hide very well along the toll road.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 10:19 AM) f*** the tribe

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 10:17 AM) How do you mean? Obligatory means required, and most of these types of posts are pretty normal/necessary in a thread like this. Exactly. They are pretty much a pre-requisite of a thread like this.

QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 10:20 AM) In a rational world, management would understand the concept of "sunk costs" and play the guys who give us the best chance to win, regardless of salary. The problem is that if we give up on Dunn and Rios, KW is pretty much admitting failure in acquiring those guys, so we're trotting them out there every day still hoping they turn it around. I asked this the other day, but got no answer... what is the biggest contract anyone has just given up on as an organization?

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 10:02 AM) Because Al Davis is a giant douche. I hate everything about the Raiders He probably slept through it.

[obligatory screw up of a funny running joke]

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 09:55 AM) It looks like it's 10pm outside right now. Yeah from the 26th floor downtown looking west, it looks ugly.

[obligatory gay/female slur insult to reignite arguments]

HoTfIrE

Please, I am half trekkie.

QUOTE (bulokis @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 06:43 PM) I will be driving to New Jersey next week and need some tips if anyone here has done it. I enjoy driving and like to stop in places to see other states and see what they have. Any suggestions on must see places that is along the drive? Thanks in advance. I know the Indiana and Ohio portions of your trip are incredibly boring. Depending on how far out of your way you want to go, Gettysburg is an incredible place to spend a day if you are a history buff. There are plenty of baseball parks also pretty close to your route if you want to try that out.

[obligatory shot at someone not even in the thread]

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 09:04 AM) me and a friend actually went over a theoretical mega trade. Fukudome, Soriano, ARam for Dunn, Rios, Morel and cash. It would actually make sense for both teams involved, and the Sox would basically have to send cash to compensate for Rios contract. It would never happen, but it would be fun to see everyone freak out about it I'd make that deal in a heartbeat. It would free us from one long term contract in net, and it would make this team way better offensively.

Nah.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 08:44 AM) He's the epitome of a "smoke & mirrors" guy. He is DJ Carrasco.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 08:52 AM) Who has the minor league contacts to know when a player is coming up? I heard a rumor that this may actually be happening. Could always try the Charlotte Twitter page. Outside of White Sox people, they would probably be the first to know.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 08:30 AM) Link If Robin can teach defense and some of the mental toughness that got him through the 0-41, he will be awesome as a coach.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 08:42 AM) ^^obligatory jerk [Obligatory insulting SS2k5 post]