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QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 09:37 PM) Maybe I missed something, but what does Rios talk have to do with Dayan Viciedo? We need 2 separate threads- the "RIOS SUCKS" and "DUNN SUCKS A**" threads. Every thread includes that and Pierre sucks.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 08:59 PM) So the manager should only do things that are easy? In an era where the players are always right and managers get fired, benching your superstar usually gets you fired. When you don't have to worry about what your superstar thinks of you, it doesn't matter. The only worry McKeon has now is the team quitting on him.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 09:46 PM) I dont blame you for anything except being wrong. Thats all. It was a very desirable job, the Bulls had money to spend, had Rose and Noah, already raised some eyebrows with even making the playoffs the previous two years. Thibodeau didnt fall into their lap and he isnt viewed as just some guy who turned out to be good as a head coach. Nothing you said was happening around the time Thibs was hired, it was the Del Negro botched negotiations that it sounds like you are talking about Yep, that was the whole mess with Doug Collins backing out, and then no one wanting to even interview here.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 05:46 PM) I think signing Dunn AND losing the first round pick was just as significant...and the loss of Hudson dating back to last summer. Simply because Dunn is impossible to unload unless he's hitting. If Rios could throw together two months of 800 OPS baseball and pick it up a bit defensively (and stop loafing), then there's a better chance someone would bite. The Dunn market is limited to about 5 teams in baseball. But the combination of Rios, Peavy, bringing in Teahen and Pierre and dumping Swisher was almost as bad....the diametrically-opposed opposite of Danks/Floyd/Ramirez/Quentin in 2007-2008. One thing that DJ and Farmer mentioned constantly in the DBack series was how much they hustled....came after you on the basepaths, running down the baselines, everything done with a sense of urgency, intensity and purpose. He attributed this to the respect that Gibson, Trammell, Baylor, Matt Williams, etc., have from those young players. Juan Pierre always hustles, but we have a number of players dogging it down the 1B line, notably Rios. Some will excuse AJ because he's so slow, but he has a propensity for doing that, too. McKeon benched Hanley right away to send a message. Remember Maddon and Upton? It's back the zero accountability thing. Bradley was lifted in the middle of a game this year for his attitude and lack of hustle. The Twins struggle with Delmon Young in this regard, as well....which is why they've tried to trade him numerous time since they acquired him. Has Ozzie ever done anything similar with Rios for his apparent lack of hustle. Not slumping offensively, but just the cavalier attitude he sometimes shows towards the game of baseball? It's a crime with how hard Lillibridge tries because he would be playing everyday for Maddon or Gibson (at least while he was hot) and Rios would have had an extensive period of riding the pine, not just 2 games. It is much easier to do when you don't have to worry about the team listening to you for any period of time.

QUOTE (TheBigHurt @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 04:54 PM) No one wanted that job. Rose aside, the Bulls didn't look that good. I think you are mixing up this coaching search with when they hired Vinnie.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 03:54 PM) I'll just go back to some commentary on the AT&T v Concepcion case based on Breyer's dissent: Basically, without class action, a company can get away with large-scale fraud, discrimination, etc. if the effects on each individual are spread out enough so as to not make it worth their time to pursue remedies. On the other hand if a few million people filed individual lawsuits for small amounts, that might change ATTs thought process here.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 03:35 PM) What happens if Cleveland takes Williams? You have to take the best player, and not the best fit. The Bulls could have easily screwed that up and ended up with Beasley instead of Rose.

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 02:59 PM) I didn't want to point it out, but to Felix that is probably like calling him a Cubs fan. Are they a WNBA team too?

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 02:44 PM) Well, yeah, the Cubs aren't very good. with our records against good and bad teams this year, it is more of a stretch to say we will beat a bad team than a good team.

It is interesting to see an "outsiders" point of view. Thanks for the post.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 02:26 PM) He's the one person that watched Erin Brockovich and rooted for her to lose. There is no way that prostitute was a lawyer.

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 02:34 PM) He's a Lynx fan. Er yeah, that's what I meant. Silly me mixing up my WNBA franchises

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 02:19 PM) Do you not remember the obsession with the grinder rules in 2005? It was pretty big. Sure I remember them getting mocked relentlessly.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 02:18 PM) So even though he said a few times that it was of the utmost importance that the team come out of the gate hot, it doesn't count because it didn't involve AJ hitting a ball out of a cannon? Now you get the difference between running a team and a commercial campaign. He's also repeatedly hinted that if things didn't go well this team wouldn't last until the end of the season either. That doesn't sound very "All-in" does it? That tag line is Brooks Boyer's thing to sell tickets.

QUOTE (lord chas @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 02:14 PM) seemed to me he was dogging it on that popout and could have easily doubled up the runner on 1st last nite He wasn't paying any attention to the runner. That was his problem.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 02:12 PM) If you think "all in" is only a marketing campaign then you are ignoring JR when he has said how over-budget they went this year to try and win When did Jerry's commerical run?

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 02:09 PM) This is the same double-standard you and a few others have for winning in general. When the Sox win (think when they won the World Series), it was a life-changing experience and the greatest thing to happen to the city since the Bears in 1985. But when they lose, it's "you're all overreacting" and "it's just a game." I can imagine if the Sox were in first by a nice margin right now, we'd be hearing how the team and management have really come through on their "promise" to go all-in. But since they're losing, it's just a marketing scheme. Right, because everyone is obsessed with the marketing when the team is in first place. Mostly this is just another excuse to b**** about something inane.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 01:49 PM) Maybe for bad teams. Division contenders typically have a higher success rate. I can't find those numbers. Any idea where they are?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 01:53 PM) If they wait for the deadline, it would make me wonder if they know the real definiton of "All In" Honestly the obsession with "All in" is scary. It is an advertising campaign for gods sake. Does everyone expect to see the Miller Lite Guards if you pick up a case of bud light with your strawberry body wash too? Let it go people.

QUOTE (southsidepride15 @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 01:42 PM) I seriously want to assasinate him when I see him jog down to first on DP balls. Edit: those last two words could've been chosen much more wisely

QUOTE (robinventura23 @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 01:39 PM) That won't do anything. He'd still win one, even in death. Good point. We need to kill the sportswriters instead.

Gordo out for back to back games now.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 01:08 PM) Yes. According to Balta, Teahen and Pierre would have approximately the same number of plate appearances at this point if it weren't for the short DL stint for Teahen. OK, I wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 12:36 PM) A month on the DL. 220 PAs = one month on the DL?

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 12:32 PM) I think he is. He isn't gonna come out and promise big changes because if he can't make a big move, he'll look like an idiot. JR even said the Bulls need a much better scoring 2-guard, so I think they make a move, how big is relative. I don't think it's Dwight big, but a guy like Jason Richardson would still be a big move, IMO. Plus you really don't want to make promises or bold statements without knowing what the CBA is going to look like.