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Hell of a left wing tree hugger you are...

How could you tell the difference?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 09:32 PM) I dunno, if I'm drafting a guy in the 1st round...I really want him to at least be tried as a starter. I want him to be moved to the bullpen because I have 5 reasonably priced guys signed for several years and no where else to put him. I'd like him to be a starter. I just won't call him a "wasted pick" if he ends up as a stud in the pen.

QUOTE (He_Gawn @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 03:28 PM) I hope you do get the opportunity, just so you can see the kid jump. I've never seen anything like it live. Youtube does not even do Perea justice. Yeah, I have been lucky over the years to see a lot of kids play HS ball who ended up in the NBA. The best was I got to see Zach Randolphs team play Sean May and Jarred Jeffries team for the IN HS State Championship one year. If I can get over there, I will.

True awesomeness. Hopefully it is a part of his Hall of Fame highlights.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 06:52 PM) A first round pick that comes up and pretty much dominates a few months after he was drafted is a wasted pick? Bulls***. Even if he ends up a dominant set up guy or closer its never a wasted pick when a guy can contribute this early at this level. If he becomes our closer, and puts up solid closing numbers, that won't bother me a bit.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 05:57 PM) Fair enough. At least it seems you're semi admitting that KW and his staff have a major challenge ahead of them this offseason. Oh I know there are challenges. It is my contention that the payroll at $100 million shouldn't be enough to have all of a teams holes filled. The fact that the Sox have holes shouldn't be neither a shock, nor some sort of black mark against the Sox. There are teams with much higher payrolls who have big, or bigger problems.

My opinion based on history is that one of the starting pitchers gets dealt to fill holes. I think 3B is filled by Morel. The rest we will see.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 05:01 PM) How do you define complete? I'm not asking for a perfect 25-man roster. But when I see a team that at the moment has no 1B, C, DH, 3B, 4 arbitration eligible players and horrid contracts like Linebrink and Teahen, I think it's safe to say this this team is not allocating their funds real well. I'm not familiar with all teams in detail, but I can't imagine not being able to do the same sorts of things with teams in the same payroll range. And to be fair, once you takeaway the free agents, this isn't a $100 million team anymore. I think it was something more like $80 to $85 million IIRC.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 04:47 PM) Preach. I don't know how many times it has to be said. It's not about Hudson becoming the next Strasburg. The game has changed. It's not about how much you spend, but how you allocate what you spend. We have way too many holes on this roster for a $100 million dollar payroll. I've never said I wanted a Baseball America all-star team. But until this organization realizes that you have to be able to filter in some cheap/controllable talent from within onto the ML roster, will continue to lag behind the the elite teams in the AL. I keep hearing this, but how many complete $100 million teams are out there?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 02:06 PM) And the problem we keep focusing on, and the reason that this matter infuriates us so much is...these people are unhappy about the way things are going in our nation, and their solution is to say repeatedly that they're not part of any party, and then fit entirely under the umbrella of one party, adopt the beliefs of one party, and then get angry when my side points out "but you're almost entirely in that party!" They want to be divorced from parties, and yet adopt 95% of the Republican platform. Then, when the Republicans decide on a policy, the Tea party manages to find a way to follow that policy decision exactly. Aside from the Arizona immigration example, I can give you another one; Wall Street reform. The Tea Party, if it really hated the bailouts, should have been all over that issue. Even if they didn't fully agree with the Obama proposal, dismantling the system that led to the bailouts should have been an issue that would have put thousands in the streets. They should have been out demanding stronger Wall Street reform such that the bank bailouts would never happen again, but that would have interfered with the interests of the Republican Party and the financial entities (like AFP) that fund the Tea party, so Finreg went through without a whimper of protest. (and yes, it's the Dem thread so I can link to a liberal blog and you can't complain). Or, here's another one...the banks openly violating the law by foreclosing on thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of people, kicking hard working Americans out of their homes, without proper standing or documentation? Basically a bunch of banks trampling on individual property rights and contract standing? That does nothing either. Great, ELF falls almost exclusively under the democratic platform. Therefore the Democrats are now militant environmentalists, using your standards. And again, read my prior post, the Tea Party isn't an organized coherent national movement. They aren't going to organize nationally to protest anything. The only place they are considered "one" is by the left-wing in this country who wants to label them as any derogatory stereotype that they can so that they can be diminished and silenced. I know this particular example fits into your narrative which you work so hard to push, so you won't agree, but this goes back to Kaps rant months ago, about what goes on in the buster. Hate is OK if it is directed at anything right wing. Even if it is the same stereotyping and offensive stuff that wouldn't be allowed to be directed towards other minority groups. Quite the opposite, it is encouraged and excused here. No one else gets away with it, and it irritates me to no end that a few here can.

So I see, sniff, sniff.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 10:23 AM) So i went to trade in a couple games yesterday to pick up Fifa '11 and couldn't because I didn't have my ID on me. They said it's a state law (NY). Why? Is that the case out in IL too? They do that in pawnshops in IN, I wonder if it is to try to catch stolen materials?

So has anyone gotten that Duracell power grid thing? Any feelings?

Quite likely a straight edged razorblade to cut the coke.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 12:57 PM) I agree with this, but, that also begs a different question. If there is no cohesive set of beliefs or policy stances, no single movement, no party and nothing knitting them together... what purpose do they serve? Good, bad or otherwise, what are they going to accomplish if they don't stand for anything? I don't think there was ever intended to be some sort of big singular goal for the group, back to the original rant which started it all. I don't think they were supposed to be anything but a loud voice to Washington saying that people are upset and not happy about the way things were going in our nation, and in our political system. I honestly believe that they whole idea was to be divorced from the parties, because they didn't want their message to be subjugated and bastardized, just like it has been by a vocal few, and all too happily used against it to the detriment of the original ideals.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 01:05 PM) In my view, the tea party is just that, a loose-knit group of mostly conservatives with some libertarianism thrown in who are dissatisfied with the President and with Democrats, but also with a lot of Republican incumbents. The Tea Party, on the other hand, is just modern right-wing conservatism repackaged with a lot of anger thrown in. This is the part that is winning primaries and dominating news cycles. The thing the last group was attacted by the unexpected energy of the first.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 11:22 AM) That works for defining all conservatives as Tea Party, and I think it's a valid point. All criticism from the right isn't Tea Party, just as all environmentalists aren't ELF. But, unless you do want to define all conservatives as Tea Party, you're left with the Tea Party being rather nutty and with the figureheads being Angle, Palin, DeMint, Paul, Beck, etc. They're the ones speaking at rallies and meetings, backing or running as candidates that are challenging GOP-backed candidates. I'm not defining all Tea Party people as the same. That is the key difference between what is being portrayed here and in the media, and what I am trying to explain for the umpteenth time. There is no singular Tea Party movement. There isn't even anything knitting them together in any sort of a formal manner. This isn't like a national party. It is stereotyping at best to try to portray the Tea Party movement as some sort of defined group.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 10:59 AM) Huh? If I took a loose knit group of people, say "environmentalists" and picked one sect of them to represent the whole, say ELF, you wouldn't have any problem with that?

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 10:27 AM) I guess I have a hard time understanding how she doesn't represent the Tea Party when she was funded by Tea Party Express and got her nomination because of the work of Delaware 9/12ers. If that's not being the visible leadership of the Tea Party, I don't know what is. Just because someone puts them up, doesn't mean people respond to them. Polls tell you exactly that much.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 08:51 AM) Sarah Palin Part Deux That is actually a great comparison. I can't believe how many people have latched on to her as some example of the Tea Party's leadership and ideals, just like they did Palin, when the reality doesn't support that.

Let's ask Heads about Iowans drug habits!

The thing is, there would be just as much complaining if we had held on to Hudson and Hudson pitched like he had the first few starts of the season.

Fine deduction young Sqwert.