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Garcia won't be back in 2011 unless something sets back Peavy pretty early on. The Sox don't need him.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 27, 2010 -> 09:54 AM) Then of course there's the real key...you also need to convince these hundreds of people to do it and then have no one talk about it. Because the moment a couple of those seniors tell their kids about the person who threatened to take away their Social Security if they didn't vote a certain way...the jig is up. Your example should make it just as obvious how hard it is to make any of these schemes actually happen. In an intimidation scheme like that...you need hundreds of people doing it to even make a small difference in a local race, and on top of that, you need no one to talk. because people go to jail. That's just it, no one gets caught. No one goes to jail. The left wing explains it away like it doesn't matter, and that we shouldn't worry about it... mostly because they are at the center of it.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 27, 2010 -> 07:48 AM) Yes, it sounds a little crazy. Frankly, more than a little. If nothing else...you just illustrated the extent at which one would have to go to actually successfully commit voter fraud. You'd have to not only file those applications, make an organized group of people show up knowing that they're putting themselves at risk to go to jail for no obvious benefit to themselves, somehow guarantee that those people actually vote for the right person once they're in the voting booth, and then make sure that they're not caught at any of the redundant steps. You not only need to bypass the voting machines, you need to convince hundreds of people to commit a crime that they could go to jail for without having them benefit at all. Do you see how difficult "vote fraud" actually is based solely on your own example? After viewing all of the if you elect a Republican, all of these bad things will happen that pretty much negates the "no benefit" point, at least as it applies to the left wing, who coincidentally is leading the charge in most of these illegal registrations. It would be pretty easy to convince people that they could lose their jobs, programs, or any other perks they get if they don't do this. Viewing the commercials on Social Security running in my area targeting seniors, and then thinking how easily many seniors are taken in for scams, it isn't hard to envision multiple scenarios of people being willing to commit voter fraud to "protect themselves."

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 27, 2010 -> 08:58 AM) Here's the ESPN Ombudsman's version of that article a few weeks back on Lebron partying it up in Vegas that appeared and then was rapidly spiked afterwards. The Mariotti excuses were much more interesting.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 27, 2010 -> 08:11 AM) Let's have some perspective here. 1. Chicago is the only city with championships in all four major sports in the past 25 years. 2. You think the Chicago sports scene is dismal now, you must not have been in Chicago very long. Before the Bulls' runs in the 90's, you had a bunch of nothing for decades before that, with the '85 Bears the one exception. No joke. Check out the 70s if you really want to see bad sports in Chicago. The most exciting Sox team was the one in 1977 that ended up finishing 4th.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 27, 2010 -> 08:26 AM) Visit My Website The idea that because Adam Morrison=#3 pick so now #3 picks suck is beyond simple. Michael Jordan was a #3 pick as well. Does that mean now that Favors=Best ever? Nope.

QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 08:54 PM) I look at some of the events that they set these up at and wonder if any signatures are legit. I've seen voter drives at concerts with half drunk people signing applications. I remember one time down in the city where they were getting signatures on some petition to get something on the ballot. You had to be a Cook County resident to sign but I got so pissed that every block someone was pushing the damn thing in my face, I started signing. I must have signed the damn thing twelve or fifteen times. I guess I should have been charged with fraud. That's just the problem. There is no reason for you, or them, to not be committing fraud.

QUOTE (knightni @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 08:52 PM) I like winning too, but this winning does nothing but hurt 2011. It may be a morale boost, but if the Sox are out of playoff contention, there's no reason to win but pure pride. The reality is that it isn't hurting 2011, but it might be hurting say 2014 or 15.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 08:36 PM) I responded to this statement specifically. WTF are you talking about trolling for arguments? I won't knock it off BTW. So tell somebody else to knock it off. Or ban me. I won't be told to "knock it off." "And he's in a town that has an unhealthy personal worship of their baseball players and managers." How is responding to that line "trolling for arguments?" You either read my post wrong or you are looking for s*** to ban me on. THis is a reasonable response And he's in a town that has an unhealthy personal worship of their baseball players and managers. I don't know if rich ballplayers and managers consider worship of the fans unhealthy. They like it. Strokes their egos. And their wives like being important as well. You don't think players and their fans like being in towns where they are worshiped?? It doesn't work that way. Enjoy the time off, hopefully you re-think your position while you are out.

QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 06:48 PM) First off the system worked and the illegal registrations were thrown out. Secondly, people work for more than just money. Volunteers are sometimes "good feeling" whores. The attention they get from everyone when they bring in 500 names or whatever can be addicting. They may be trying to impress Jodie Foster, or the hot guy in the next cubical. The manager may be trying to pad his resume and get a paying gig with a major donor, or just use it to say he managed a voter registration drive that brought in 25,000 voters. There are so many reasons I'd get tired typing. So should we throw out attempting anything charges? If a guy takes a gun into a bank and doesn't get away with any money, should he walk?

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 04:37 PM) Is this official? or assumption? Assumption of course. We have a long winter and spring ahead of us.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 05:20 PM) Jeez Ozzie, stop pitching Thornton multiple innings! His fastball is down a few mph this inning, and last time that happened, not only did he get rocked, but he was hurt as well. He threw the same speeds the other day when he was closing out the first game. He's not healthy.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 01:31 PM) Yes, and you know it's going to suck with a slight chance that it's decent. That is almost exactly what I said about it when I saw the commercial the first time. It'll be a redbox for me.

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 24, 2010 -> 11:26 PM) I usually watch Friday Night Lights the next day online. Like hell I am waiting for the spring. League is great. I loved the first couple seasons of FNL, but lost it when it went to direct tv and on different nights.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 04:01 PM) Given the choice obviously the non-Fox networks do better. But choice isn't exactly an option there...you're choosing based on the game you want to watch, not by the network. Like I said...name anything that isn't a giant revenue/hype machine. Not just in sports. Anything. Soxtalk

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 02:58 PM) It's probably a good time for Mark to hang it up, I don't think he will be getting many offers this offseason. Teahen is going to be taking his spot as corner utility guy and lefty bat off of the bench next year.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 09:44 AM) No. In fact, I've never really been serious about firing Cooper once. Its more of my defense for Greg Walker. I just find it odd that no one ever mentions Cooper when the pitching falls apart, but if guys don't hit, its always on Walker. When the pitching is great, Cooper is the greatest. When the hitting is great, it has nothing to do with Walker. Just last week, Walker was being blamed for Morel, a rookie, swinging at pitches in the dirt. Almost like Walker told him to go up there and swing at everything, and Morel like a robot listening. The only hitter I can remember having a lot more success after he left the White Sox than he did while a White Sox is Swisher, and he didn't work with Walker at all. Hudson looks like a HOFer right now. I know. You mention this every single time that a pitcher fails on the Sox. Hence why it looks like you hate the guy.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 08:06 AM) It seemed obvious when Hudson was a White Sox that if he could throw strikes he'd be a pretty good pitcher. He's only walked 3 more hitters in AZ than he did in 15 innings with the White Sox. There was a radio interview with him and he said they do things in AZ they don't do in Chicago. I do know if he was a hitter who struggled with the White Sox but had 1/3 of a season with this kind of success with another team, Greg Walker would be to blame. Why no Cooper bashing? As to the trade, Jackson has been pretty good. It really didn't make a difference this year. Next year will be key. If Hudson can be anywhere near as effective as he's been thus far, he'll win the Cy Young. You really hate Don Cooper.

It is going to be fun to watch this Hawks team with a goalie who can handle the puck. Man what a change back there...

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 06:46 PM) I haven't a clue. Like I said above, that's no where near a championship roster, and it's likely to be trapped in that 7-10 range in the conference every year where it has no chance at a high lottery pick, cap space, or help. Playing in the biggest media market in the country does that to some people. Ask Amare Stoudemire why he went to the Knicks.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 06:45 PM) Really...let's be honest...Omar hasn't played poorly this year...and if Ozzie's the manager, I think the only thing that keeps Omar from starting the season at 3b next year is Omar deciding to retire. Or Ozzie deciding Omar is the full time DH. The one thing Ozzie will use is a defender who doesn't hurt his team at the plate. I could see Morel being the starter with Omar as a super-utility guy.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 12:43 PM) I don't know why St. Louis is much better. The White Sox spend more on players and I would think if you had a choice, the majority of people would rather spend their summer in Chicago. Media and fan scrutiny would be the #1 reason that St Louis is better than Chicago. A player can't fart without Joe Cowley tweeting about it.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 03:58 PM) It's probably pretty likely that Morel would hit better than Omar because Morel would make up for being a worse hitter by actually hitting with some power. If Guillen stays...my guess is that Omar Vizquel starts the season at 3b and they try to keep Morel in AAA until at least the Super 2 arbitration deadline in early June...both to save the arbitration year and to give Morel some extra AB's in AAA. I don't really want Omar as option #1 next year, but it can't be denied that this teams turnaround directly correlated with Omar going into the starting line up.