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QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 09:07 AM) Maybe people would be more receptive to consistent ticket price increases (even despite a lousy economy) if the team had more than one playoff win since 2005.... Its either that or a smaller payroll.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 09:01 AM) And if they decide they don't want him, I won't begrudge them the move. Link I won't either.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 09:00 AM) Yeah they can't claim poor when they've been one of the few teams to raise prices every year. They can when attendence has gone down pretty steadily since 2006.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 08:14 AM) Half of that to me sounds like him saying the right thing, but I can't tell if the other half is him being confident in his rehab to the point of cockiness, which I wouldn't mind at all...or if it's him showing the classic NBA "I've earned these minutes!" streak that we've seen from so many guys. I'd still sign him, but I can't tell which is which. Thankfully, the Bulls happen to have a guy who coached him for 3 years on their staff...Thibodeau. Which could very well be why they are hesitant to sign him...

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 07:49 AM) Bump. Now that Peavy is gone, maybe this isn't such a bad idea. Unless a deal is worked out where we get his salary paid for, and we dump Linebrink, this would be a terrible idea.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...rtnerId=rss_cws

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 09:38 PM) Good to be home. Too bad the Twins are beating the Royals by two touchdowns and a field goal. The great part is that it all counts the same in the standings

He has to be thinking about it, that is for sure.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 04:09 PM) Long McGrady article filled with lots of post-workout quotes. They haven't talked contract yet, supposedly. I'm a bit uncomfortable by McGrady saying he doesn't think he'd need to come off the bench...but, if he's legitimately feeling good, some of that could be deserved cockiness. If he thinks he can start, play 30 minutes a game in Thibs's defense (which he knows well from those rock solid Houston defenses) and score 20-25 points...then he won't want to come off the bench and do that....but even he seems to also suggest that he has to prove it first. I still don't think i see a downside to signing him, even for everything remaining of the Bulls's under the cap dollars, if that's what it takes. Worst case scenario he's cuttable or an expiring deal, and even if there's only a 1% shot at him returning close to his form of 2-3 years ago or even if he can only give you that for 40 games...that's the kind of gamble you need to win to beat a team like the Heat. If he has enough in him to where he could score 20 points a game, he will have a starting position pretty quickly. If he can't, he won't get that much PT.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 09:02 PM) Kieth Law ws tweeting that Vizquel was nowhere near the SS Jeter is/was. I unfollowed him. Unless he is factoring in offensively, he is an idiot.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 04:38 PM) @jcrasnick: Why wouldn't he? I know I would.

QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 06:28 PM) I actually want them to do nothing. I don't want to overpay for garbage, do you? It sounds like we are getting told Beckham or Quentin for anything of value. If that is the case, I want us to walk away as well. Really I don't want to deal Hudson either, unless we are getting a servicable starter back.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 06:18 PM) In the last year or so I've done a lot of reading on this subject and yeah, there just really is no equivalent anywhere of the right-wing press (and there's nothing as effective, either). It's not really just about Fox although that's the most visible thing that everybody knows. Left-wing blogs do have a tendency to be an echo chamber, you might have somebody on Slate linking to Salon or a Huffington Post article linking to a New York Times article, and only occasionally linking to a right-wing blog except to say "lol omg look how wrong these guys are" but otherwise uses mainstream sources. Right-wing blogs and info sources in general are like an entire ecosystem, they have obviously Fox News, radio, a bunch of books, a network of blogs that link to each other, places like Newsmax, an entire factory for talking heads where guys like Hannity, Beck, etc. come from, and so on. All this is just as "mainstream" as any media is today, because the truth is it's fractured and people just self-select where they want their news from anymore so the question of "bias" is really kind of irrelevant. They have as much ability to influence/change the news cycle as any enemy-of-Richard-Nixon media cartel in the 70s ever did. And on the left? There's what, MSNBC which really only has Fox-style liberal commentary in its prime time lineup with Olbermann and Maddow, but is maybe half as successful, and that's about it? Someone name me an openly liberal commentator and I can probably name 3 conservative media figures, that are more successful to boot. So, yeah, anyone who writes it off as a "both sides" thing doesn't really know what they're talking about and can be dismissed out of hand. Right, because its not like Dan Rather and CBS pulled a stunt like this...

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 11:34 AM) Seems odd, when I've watched Hudson this year, both times he seemed to START the game with good slider and angled tilt on the FB... but as the game goes on, they both flatten out. Just my perception though, maybe I'm wrong. He gets into jams and starts trying to make the perfect pitches. He has overthrown a lot of pitches, which causes your breaking stuff to flatten out, and when he has tried to be perfect, he has missed the zone a lot. It is a confidence thing at this point. Someone needs to get through to him to trust his stuff, just like they did with Garland, Danks, Floyd, etc.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 11:14 PM) Anyone remember when Danks struggled after the Sox threw him into the fire? The kid faced adversity and then overcame it. I have little doubt that Dan Hudson can do the same thing. He has the stuff, he just needs the mindset. He has really good stuff. Nothing he throws goes straight. To me, it looks like he is afraid to get hit, so he is trying to nibble the corners with the perfect pitch. Because of this he is pitching from behind a lot.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 10:05 AM) Even if we paid his entire salary, I can't fathom how any team would be silly enough to give up anything of Legit value for Jenks. [insertpitchingcoach] can fix him? In all reality the arm is still there. I could see a team taking a chance on him simply because he would be way better than anything else out there.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 11:58 PM) There aren't different rules for mods and admins. FYI. This is true. Honestly people would be surprised to know some of the actions we have taken over the years. The biggest thing is that we do not making stuff public. People learn about suspensions because the people who were suspended talk about it. We also don't talk about warnings or the like. It is just a policy to respect the people involved here by not airing their dirty laundry in public. It is the way we have always done things, and we think it works well.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 08:21 PM) Thats a great point. The relief market is very publicly and frustratingly thin this year with so many teams contending -- teams are knocking down the door for Scott Downs and Craig Breslow. Oh man, that would be a KW GEM. Putz moves in as closer, Fielder/Dunn becomes the new Kotsay, Jones rests Quentin when he gets hurt every 9 days. Brilliant. And keep in mind they have pretty much publicly said that they are going to call up Sale. If they trade Jenks, they just opened up a spot for this kid. Plus if they can do it to get players to get Fielder or Dunn? Wow. That would be incredible.

The sad thing is that if Gordo gets down on that ball in the second inning, this thread never happens.

One of the interesting things mentioned by Phil Rogers in the Trib was that he could see Bobby Jenks getting moved for the prospects to acquire a Dunn or Fielder.

And yet the government has no interest in hundreds of billions of dollars, lol.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 03:03 PM) Ha, if Detroit gets Dunn, Sox fans will be in meltdown mode. In reality, the Tigers are in a great position to try and work out an extension with him if they trade for him. Personally, I feel the Tigers should be trying to beef up their pitching. I will celebrate if they get him. I hope they sell the whole farm to do it.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 01:16 AM) Am I the only person who thinks Johan Santana is a hall of famer? He could be depending on how long he lasts.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 07:52 AM) Detroit sucks. I agree. I have zero fear of them, especially with this run of injuries (Ordonez, Inge, Zumaya). I don't know how big Dombrowskis' cajones are, but they could make a big bounce back next year if they turned into sellers for some of their guys to restock the system. Plus with the salary they are clearing anyway, they could hit the free agency market hard still.