Everything posted by southsider2k5
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Amnesty for Mitchell Report List
I think MLB realized the lawsuits to be associated with this stuff would have been really difficult to win.
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Frank Thomas Statue
QUOTE (RibbieRubarb @ Apr 14, 2008 -> 01:42 PM) I don't think anyone here would oppose a Statue and Number Retirement for Frank Thomas. If there is someone, I would love to hear the case against Frank being honored. Yeah, me too.
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DEM Primaries/Candidates thread
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 14, 2008 -> 12:42 PM) If Hillary were to start sweeping the last few states, scoring big wins in a lot of them, then you sort of start really getting in to that messy area where those loads of crap become worth wondering about. Where Hillary is winning the popular vote outright but not the delegate count, then you get in to a big argument about how much weight should be given to the caucus system, which is just a mess. Better question... if you are a candidate who is at a severe funding disadvantage, would it be worth your time to spend money attacking someone with those kind of odds, or going after the well-established leader of the pack?
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DEM Primaries/Candidates thread
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 14, 2008 -> 12:02 PM) The problem is, how do you define "The will of the voters" especially at the current stage? There are so many different ways of counting, and it's entirely possible to come up with ways to count them that favor Hillary. Do you go with the popular vote? If so, how do you count FL and MI? If you count them the right way to minimize Obama's numbers and increase Hillary's, then it's still possible to come up with a count that gives Hillary the lead. But that minimizes the contribution of caucus states since fewer people show up there anyway, so how do you weight those correctly? And then you can throw in arguments about the impact of the electoral college itself, and that muddies the mess even further. A solid win or two by Obama to stretch the margin a little bit more would finally shut it up. But that's not going to happen until NC it looks like. Would you buy that load of crap if anyone fed it to you? Would the vast majority of the voting public?
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DEM Primaries/Candidates thread
QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Apr 14, 2008 -> 11:42 AM) but.... neither candidate can win without super delegate help. thus, Hillary still has a chance of winning this thing. If McCain wanted, he could go after Clinton with Obama and thus make her have to fend off 2 challengers and potentially striking the knock out blow. btw, not sure if it has been discussed here, but I've heard rumors of a Gore/Carter call on Clinton to drop out, either publicly or privately. Not as an endorsement of Obama per-say, but as a "save the party" call. Do you really think that the vast majority of super-delegates are going to go against the will of the Democratic voters, especially after the debacle of the 2000 election? Keep in mind most of these people are also elected officials who would like to keep their offices.
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Strong play by Sox may keep Owens in AAA
I am happy to see CQ playing at the level that he is, and that we are succeeding because of it. We really have a lot depth this year, and that is a nice change.
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DEM Primaries/Candidates thread
QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 14, 2008 -> 11:20 AM) That's all the proof needed right there. What proof? Obama is leading this race by a country mile, and it would take a miracle for him to lose. Why would McCain waste his time on the far second place candidate, when he probably won't race against that person anyway? Should he be attacking Ron Paul still too? Common sense tells you to plan for who you are most likely to face.
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DEM Primaries/Candidates thread
QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 14, 2008 -> 10:40 AM) Hillary Clinton's "Elitist" Comments? So, is she saying that when times are bad they look for people to blame? Sounds rather similar to what Obama said. Or that someone is trying to read into someone's statement just like Clinton did...
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Who is the MVP of the Tigers Series
There are so many people you could pick out for MVP of this series, both offensively and defensively. Both Vazquez and Floyd had HUGE games pitching, while guys like Crede and Swisher had great series at the plate and in the field. It is a nice arguement to be having.
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i am drunk
QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 13, 2008 -> 03:20 AM) Am I the only person that can't piss in an actual toilet when drunk? I always miss. I mean badly. I just piss outside when I'm hammered. hell there are people I work with who can't seem to do that sober...
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Guillen fined for umpire 'vendetta' quote
QUOTE (YASNY @ Apr 14, 2008 -> 01:27 AM) Sorry man ... I totally disagree with you. If Ozzie feels that there is some injustice going on and he feels it's personal, it's his duty to speak up and bring attention to it. I'm not going to argue about it. even more than that, it is his job to make his players preform at their best levels, and keeping them from getting ejected is a very good place to start. Having their respect also goes a long way towards that. I know its early this year, but the officiating we have seen so far this year has been HORRIBLE. Going out and taking one for the team to keep them focused really is a smart thing for Ozzie to do at this point. It also calls attention to MLB that something needs to change, instead of being quiet and letting the status quo of amatuerish work by the umpiring crews continue. Guillen is a lot of things, but he isn't stupid. It might look to some like he is just popping off, but he is trying to swing the tables back to his team.
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Guillen fined for umpire 'vendetta' quote
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 13, 2008 -> 04:59 PM) Obviously we don't know exactly what was said, but if Ozzie argued balls and strikes, he is supposed to be ejected. There are a lot of things that "supposed" to happen in baseball, including baserunner interference and the location of the strike zone, that never happen.
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DEM Primaries/Candidates thread
QUOTE (kapkomet @ Apr 13, 2008 -> 09:05 PM) They all pander, they all sway for what lobbyist they need. SS, you saw where I came from. I don't think it was quite the same as you, but it was pretty similar. There ARE people "bitter" with the political process. Hell, I'm one of them. I'm bitter as hell. But, I also think that Obama said it the way he meant it originally, and that is that these people (as Hillary said) "cling" to beliefs that end up creating more of the same for the politicians we keep sending to Washington. Obama did NOT say that originally, but his spin of the subject is now how he's coming across. Again, when you combine it with the company he has kept over the last 20+ years of his life and watch his "rise to power" I don't think Obama gives a damn about my plight more then any other person around here. He's saying what he needs to say to be elected, and that is more my point then anything. I know where you are going with this, and I think this is one spot where racism would still play a key role. I think the political system is still a big good old boys network, and if he REALLY believed this kind of stuff, they would have slaughtered him in the press by now. Keep in mind the guy is running against the Clinton Machine. If they had this kind of ammo, it would have been strategically placed in a third party media, and they would have blown it up in his face right before one of the key primaries, probably before Super Tuesday, but if not, the Texas/Ohio ones.
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Time for undertaxed liberals to put up...
QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 13, 2008 -> 10:55 PM) So Warren Buffet doesn't give to charity then? Should I take that notion seriously? Because Al Gore hasn't given enough, all liberals don't give to charity? Warren Buffet has set it up to give something like 90-95% of his wealth to the Gates Foundation. I don't recall the time table or the exact numbers, but it was something like $40-50 BILLION.
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DEM Primaries/Candidates thread
QUOTE (KipWellsFan @ Apr 14, 2008 -> 12:06 AM) I refuse to believe that any of the 3 remaining candidates, Hillary included, put themselves through so much grief simply to serve their own aims and ambitions. They have made nine figures worth of wealth for their grief. Why would they stop now?
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DEM Primaries/Candidates thread
QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 13, 2008 -> 07:11 PM) He didn't really take back what he said though, in so many words he said "I don't apolgize for what I said, just how I said it." Exactly. If there was nothing wrong with what he believed he said, stand up for it. I HATE the 21st century apology of I am sorry YOU got upset, but I am not really going to apologize. Its a pet peeve of mine. Don't make excuses, don't make s*** up, don't faux apologize... If you ARE sorry, say you are sorry. Damn, my two year old knows that.
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Your first place Chicago White Sox!
Best record in the AL, 4th best in all of baseball
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AND THAT'S A WHITE SOX WINNER!!
18-0 over the last two days. 14.1 Shutout innings from our 5th and 2nd starters...
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DEM Primaries/Candidates thread
QUOTE (mr_genius @ Apr 13, 2008 -> 01:54 PM) I think it's the 'they clutch to guns, religion, and ant-immigrant vies as a way to cope' that is what might bother certain voters. it's pretty condescending. obviously no one is going to care if Obama says people who lost a job are just bitter. If that stuff is all true, he shouldn't apologize. He should say "it's true, deal with it". Good point. I'd rather see that than the BS 21st century apology of, "if I offended anyone, I apoligize." If you are sorry, be sorry for what you said, if not, defend what you said and quit being a little b**** about it.
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4/13 Gamethread: Sox (6-4) vs. Detroit (2-9); 1:05, WGN
Konerko 5 Tigers 0
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Time for undertaxed liberals to put up...
QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 13, 2008 -> 10:17 AM) i will gladly pay more taxes because that's what our country needs right now. though i won't cuz i dont make enough money. but those who do should. it's just simple logic - if you make more you should pay more. why it isn't currently like that is beyond me. I'm not sure what you are talking about, but it IS that way, and has been for a really, really, long time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_bracket
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2008 White Sox Catch-All Thread
QUOTE (Vance Law @ Apr 12, 2008 -> 10:11 AM) When was the last time Thome was ejected from a game before last night? I did not see when the last time was, but that was only his third ejection in 15 years.
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4/13 Gamethread: Sox (6-4) vs. Detroit (2-9); 1:05, WGN
THis will be an interesting test to really see how much better we have gotten against junkballers and lefties.
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Your favorite Presidential speeches
QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 11, 2008 -> 08:38 PM) I'd suggest he was just plain bad. For singlehandedly destroying the National Bank, I agree 100%.
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DEM Primaries/Candidates thread
I am actually going to defend Obama here... For someone who grew up poor, and has now officially hit "upper middle" class, I know A LOT of people just like Obama mentioned. The elitists are the ones who have "yes" men feeding them crappy info to fit their campaign agendas, and have no idea about what is going on at the neighborhood level of things. I'd love to see Hillary Clinton step into a couple of the neighborhoods I lived in/grew up in, and ask those people living at/below poverty level if they were bitter and disenchanted with the political system or not.