southsider2k5

And the players said no to it all of the other times.

This.

I have yet to see someone actually attribute the quote to him either. Usually when he talks, 50 people are tweeting it.

I have yet to see this actually happen. I have definitely yet to see players do things to artificially create leverage and shorten the negotiations window.

https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/1501688188506574849?s=20&t=fDuyODcl7ZCKlvPYnSNauQ https://tw itter.com/BNightengale/status/1501688188506574849?s=20&t=fDuyODcl7ZCKlvPYnSNauQ

There was a time period before the owners locked them out where they could have threatened a strike.

Did Boras actually say that, or was that just Sampson using Boras as a Boogeyman, because I have yet to see a quote like that directly from him. Not saying he couldn't have said it, but the only place I have seen it was from an Ex-MLB owner.

See that's the crux of the whole problem. Only one side has been using leverage to try to create high pressure situations through this whole process. The owners didn't have to lock the players out. Negotiations could have continued without a lockout, as could the entire off-season. They could have also attempted to offer to negotiate in good faith while working under the structure of the old deal until which team that a new deal could have replaced it. The owners didn't have to sit on a players offer for 43 days and not negotiate at all during that time frame. The owners have cried "last and final" on now four different occasions, and yet here we still are. I have yet to see the players threaten to strike, or refuse to negotiate for long periods of time. The longest response time I can recall to an owners proposal was two days. The closest thing I have seen to a threat from the players I have seen was that if the full regular season wasn't played, an expanded playoffs wasn't going to happen.

Because how we got to this point shapes how the two parties move going forward. The history of these negotiations and how much revenue shrinkage the players have seen over time isn't just going to go away and not factor in. It also doesn't mean that the players need to rush into a bad deal just because the owners set them up to fail.

Probably when ownership stops trying to take from the players.

lmao.

Hmmmm....

And now they are not rushing in to get kicked in the balls again, despite the pressure techniques and media campaign operating against them.