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QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 11:01 PM) Wow, take it easy. My whole point was that Pierre isn't a top tier player. Your last post made him sound like he is. You also have to factor in things like how many runs he gives up because of his defense and weak arm in center field. If he played center field like Rowand, I would agree with you. Ok, let's be fair. 1st off, Rowand wasn't exactly an accurate cannon in CF either BUT he is far greater defensively than Pierre ever will be. 2nd of all, Rowand is not a top-tier guy. Nor is Rowand, so you have no point. But basically, there is no point in comparing because there is no direct connection between the 2. Right now, I'd rather have Pierre than Anderson for 2006 but I hope Ando changes my opinion.

The Yankee's are becoming the epitomy of bulls*** in MLB.

OR NOT! I could not stop laughing after these 2 Cub fans called into XM Radio talking about The Mientekiwicz last-out ball and the issue of salary cap/relocation/retraction. The 1st guy comes on and says the last out ball should be on display at the stadium. He followed with (and I quote) "Ya know, I hope the Cubs win the World Series this year and if they do, I'd want them to diplay it at Wrigley instead of at Cooperstown. Only someone crazy would go up there to see the ball...I know I wouldn't. I mean people come up here to see the Cubs but only crazy people would go up there." My comments: 1st off dumbass, the Cubs will not be winning a World Series in 2006. 2nd, of course your lazy ass wouldn't drive up to see the ball...you just go to games to get drunk. 3rd, he obviously doesnt know much because the only people that take time away from their schedules (which don't include work either way because they are Cubs fans) to go see the Cubs at Wrigley are f***ing people from Iowa!!!! Lastly, no, people are not crazy for driving a distance to see the last-out ball or any piece of memorabilia from a World Series championship, they are true fans, not crazy fans. f***er! On top of all this, while I am laughing at this guy, the 2nd cub fan calls and says the Marlins should move to Acapulco or Mexico City............................ I'll leave that one alone. :headshake :fthecubs

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 09:01 PM) No, he's in a coma. Oh my god! :headshake

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 09:11 PM) SP: Mark Buehrle SP: Jose Contreras SP: Jon Garland SP: Freddy Garcia SP: Brandon McCarthy RP: Arnie Munoz RP: Orlando Hernandez RP: Bobby Jenks RP: Cliff Politte RP: Neal Cotts RP: Dustin Hermanson C: A.J. Pierzynski 1B: Paul Konerko 2B: Tadahito Iguchi 3B: Joe Crede SS: Juan Uribe RF: Jermaine Dye CF: Brian Anderson LF: Scott Podsednik DH: Jim Thome (just starting to sink in) C: Chris Widger IF: Bill Mueller IF: Pablo Ozuna OF: Timo Perez OF: Willie Harris Sign Frank Thomas to a small money deal with plenty of bonuses. Than when Frank is ready send Harris down or trade him. Release Vizcaino and trade Marte. Munoz will be fine as a lefty specialist. He deserves a 2nd chance in the bullpen where he belongs. Absolutely wrong and never going to happen. 1.) IMO, Frank will not be back. 2.) Arnie Munoz? I would take Marte over him any day honestly. 3.) You cant just up and trade Vizcaino, Marte, and Harris.

QUOTE(timotime @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 09:02 PM) your perception is your reality, soxfan1 Thank you, oh wise one.

Is the car okay? Seriously, I'm guessing you came out alright???

QUOTE(beck72 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 08:53 PM) And the Braves got to see a lot of Pierre with both teams being in the NL East. Exactly. Honestly, I'd love Pierre on the Sox. The defense takes a step down but his range makes up for his arm. The speed of Pods and Pierre would make it the rangiest (if thats a word) LF/CF combo in the AL (Toss up with Gathright or Baldelli and Crawford in TB) and not to mention Dye who is a great defensive RFer.

Tex, I like the Lime Lucas better. I prefer sour over the spicy. I remember back in like 6th grade we would snort it and pretend it was crack. Good times..... BTW: I do not recommend snorting Lucas....burns like a motherf***er!!!!

QUOTE(drowninginflame @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 08:43 PM) garland is a douche in person Would you care to elaborate???

QUOTE(beck72 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 08:45 PM) Here's a plug for Pierre from the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Doesn't sound too bad--a workaholic: BASEBALL: Marlins' sell-off can aid Braves Terence Moore - Staff Thursday, December 1, 2005 Juan Pierre. He's exceptional. He's available. He's exactly what the Braves need to push their streak of consecutive division titles to 15. Not only that, he's capable of doing enough with his bat, glove, legs and heart to end their annoying habit of vanishing each October. We're talking about a guy who arrives at the ballpark five hours before most of his teammates. Prior to games on the road, he fires balls against the outfield walls to make sure that he knows all of the possible ricochets. He even spends time rolling balls from home plate toward first and third base, just to see how far to place his bunt attempts down the lines. Here's the biggest thing: He's the ultimate winner. In fact, it was Pierre's considerable energy that did the most to propel the Florida Marlins to a world championship for the 2003 season. In other words, if the Braves take my advice about Pierre, the choppers and the chanters needn't worry about those gathering storms. You have the suddenly potent Mets, for instance, but this is only a mirage. They are doing what they always do after imploding in a New York minute, and that is, they are throwing a bunch of pennies at folks and praying that it works. They got Carlos Delgado to smash the ball, and they got Billy Wagner to keep hitters from doing so. This isn't a mirage: Rafael Furcal is going, going, almost gone. All that he did during his six years with the Braves was provide a wonderful spark as a leadoff hitter and own a solid glove at shortstop that nearly was golden last season. I mean, didn't he? And isn't it time to wonder if the Braves will vanish earlier next season than normal? Jack McKeon chuckled over the phone on Wednesday from his home in Elon, N.C., between chomping on one of his eternal cigars. He's a baseball lifer who most recently managed the Marlins before retiring after last season. He chuckled, because the Mets and Furcal notwithstanding, he can't fathom how anybody can believe that the Braves will stop winning the National League East as long as John Schuerholz is general manager and Bobby Cox is manager. "Listen. Everybody thought we were going to walk away with the thing last year after we picked up one guy, and that one guy was Carlos Delgado," said McKeon, still chuckling, whose Marlins finished seven games behind the Braves. "You know, I like Furcal, but there is nobody who is not replaceable. Look at how the Braves brought in all of those young kids [18 rookies] last year, and they just took off. It's getting the right players, and that's the knack that Bobby and John have. They're always able to get somebody who fits in and can pick them up." Did I mention Juan Pierre? He's the Marlins' center fielder. With a phone call to those operating the latest fire sale for this sorry Florida franchise, Pierre is the Braves' left fielder (some guy named Andruw Jones already is in center). Yes, Pierre slumped to .276 last season, but that still was just eight points lower than Furcal's batting average during what was considered a superlative year for the Braves' catalyst. And Pierre's lifetime mark is .305 as the leadoff guy that the Braves would have with a Furcal departure. He steals bases, and he rarely is caught (267 out of 363 attempts). He makes contact more often than not (never more than 52 strikeouts in a season). Mostly, since the Braves are traditionally a finesse team, they need as much grit as they can get, and Pierre is the grittiest player in the game. He never wants to leave the field. Since Pierre's first full year in the majors with the Colorado Rockies in 2001, he hasn't played less than 152 games in a season. He has spent each of his three seasons with the Marlins playing every game, including every inning during the 2004 season. "In all of the decades I've been in the game, I've only had two workaholics --- Tony Gwynn and Juan Pierre," said McKeon, still employed by the Marlins. As a result, he couldn't say how he thought Pierre would fit with the Braves. Then again, he didn't have to. [email protected] Seems to contradict what most of SoxTalk thinks....

QUOTE(Felix @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 08:37 PM) If you are talking about their skill as an overall baseball player, then you are far from being right. If you are talking about their fielding, you are close to being right, although I think there are likely some worse ones (Carl Everett comes to mind). If you are talking about their personalities, then yes, both Bonds and Manny are among the league's biggest jackasses in the outfield. I do believe Bonds has some Gold-Gloves and he surely is NOT a liability in the field, even at his age.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 08:34 PM) I think you should go back to the light gray background. It's a great photoshop but that light gray background provided a much better contrast. The white is too bright. Damn you....

QUOTE(SoxPride56 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 08:32 PM) I'm sorry but for some reason i laughed so hard when i read that Same here. I am willing to bet the look ony my face was priceless. Just now did I realize what the hell he meant.

Fixededed...

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 08:23 PM) No, that would be Mueller's left shoulder. But from our perspective, it's his right shoulder. Which are you looking at? The only mistake is on HIS right shoulder...from his perspective. I think. I dunno, f*** it. If he joins the Sox, we'll see the real picture eventually lol. EDIT: OOOOOOOOOOOOOH, I see. The picture setting on my monitor is bright so I couldn't see what you were talkign about. I'm glad you didn't see the real mistake!

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 08:17 PM) Great photoshop except for the extra white space above Mueller's left shoulder. Ya, I know. I accidently erased some off the wrong layer. EDIT: And actually, it is his right shoulder.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 08:03 PM) Do you have a brain? Yes, as a matter of fact, I do as I was, like ssh said, restating what Phil Rogers said, and questioning it as if to say "Why in the flying f*** would the Sox do that trade?"

For those who requested...

Marte, Borchard, and Young/Sweeney/Owens/Anderson for Pierre???

Happy Birthday Greasy you bastage!

Oh yeah, onions too. Absolutely cant eat them. BTW, all mexican food is nasty to me except for steak/beef tacos.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 06:33 PM) I think Owens will be better than Taveras offensively but he won't play defense in center field as well. If Owens plays like Taveras did in the World Series, the Sox are in good shape in CF.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 12:39 PM) They will go after Luis Castillo and Juan Peierre and then try and sign Lugo or Florida's Alex Gonzalez. It will take a good six months for their fans to learn it is a different Gonzalez than the one that cost them the playoffs, if they even remember the guys name. Why they don't go after Preston Wilson is beyond me he and Cedano make more sense then Furcal. I really think Hendry works like fantasy baseball, get the biggest names to keep your team in the spotlight. I love asking Cubs fans what cost them a World Series appearance in 2003. The compulsive "f***ing Steve Bartman!" answer is always worth a chuckle. Then when you say "No, it was Alex Gonzalez, Dusty Baker, and Mark Priors fault" they get all defensive. I love it.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 02:36 PM) Per George Offman of the Score: "The Twins are desperately trying to acquire second baseman Alfonso Soriano from the Texas Rangers." Sound familiar?