FlaSoxxJim

Yeah, good old Terraserver will probably always be enough for my non-demanding needs (that's the one started with Gates $$ and uses USGS photos w/up to 1-m resolution. It works on my macs (Keyhole doesn't yet),it's free, and it has more complete coverage as of now. The only downside is that a lot vof the aerials (at least for Florida) are about 5 years old. A lot has changed in 5 years.

Plus, it's just water, right? I mean, it's not like it's oil or anything.

I got 8,918 gross words per minute. Wait, you mean I'm not supposed to cut and paste??

Wow. Think of the lost productivity... Here's to you 17,499 other slackers.

Yeah, Good Eats has surpassed Jamie Oliver's show on Food as one of my favorites too. I don't know if it will ever knock Iron Chef from the top spot though, for pure entertainment value.

Yes, it is indeed excellent. You only have to be careful not to dry out the turkey, pay attention to the weight and don't overcook it. I'm going to try something new and roast a turkey on the gas grill for the first time. Alton Brown and Wolfgang Puck bothhad good brine marinade recipes on their thanksgiving shows, so we're going to soak the turkey overnight in a honey and maple brine and slow roast over onions and celery and carrots with apples and aromatic spices in the body cavity. As for a fav Thanksgiving sidedish, I'm partial to that French fried onion green bean casserole that for whatever reason you only eat for thanksgiving.

Happy Happy Dear neighbor to the north!

It is not live, it's archived satellite imagery. Their site says images are an average of 18 to 24 months old, with some images as new as 2 months to others as old as 3 years old or older. The satellite weserver project started with Gates funding and now used by a lot of databases runs basically the same way. This is probably built on that database. Government and private satellite imagery is way too sensitive and ephemerally valuable for consumer level access. But, after a few months all of that is pretty uselss for a lot of high-end needs bet it's perfectly good for our use. Also, the global snapshot represented by a database like this at any one time depicts an idealized, mythical cloudless day worldwide. That's obviously not the true picture at any given moment - maybu half the earth's land masses will be obscured buy clouds and a sat image will be useless. Really I'm not this geeky - there was a good NPR piece on this stuff a year or so ago on fair use of satellite image databases by private individuals, who pays for it etc.

I do!

You noticed that too, huh? Ah, sky high rhetoric is less taxing than rational thought anyway...

That was phenomenal, Nuke. Apu presents by-the-numbers accounting of the ACLU's historic role in defending American civil liberties and constitutional protections. And rather than to notice any of that, you jump on parental notification as if it were the defining issue of this or any year. So, by your admission ("The ACLU has been on the wrong side of EVERYTHING since its sorry existence began."...) • constitutional standards should not be applied to state criminal proceedings – ACLU says the should, NUKE thinks it's a bad idea be definition because the ACLU fought for it; • barring the sale of houses to black people should be allowed - the ACLU thinks it's wrong, NUKE says it's all good; • racial segregatrion in schools should never habe been daclared unconstitutional – ACLU says bad, NUKE says no big whoop. • conscientious objector status should only be granted to wind-em-up Christians but not those who's faiths don't fit that cookie cutter image – ACLU says that's bunk, NUKE dissents. • the constitutional rights of criminal SUSPECTS should neither be explained or protected – ACLU has a problem with it, NUKE is not all that concerned with the presumption of iccocence or rights attended thereto. And that only gets ut to 1966. Yeah, f*** the ACLU. If you're looking to shred the constitution that badly, what the hell are you even fighting to defend, Brother?

Maybe it's Ashcroft incognito. Even stepping down, maybe he just can't get enough of wiping his ass with the Constitution.

OK, got it. No, I only chimed in when Jeckle suggested that actually focusing on bin Laden would be a better approach for capturing him than NOT focusing on him ala' the GWB approach. And in fact that was a difference promised by the Kerry campaign. So I thought Jeckle's response to SS' apparent suggestion that Kerry never touched on the subject (i.e., 'had no plan') was on target. It actually got to be a broken record on Kerry's part... 'pinned down...', 'mountains of Tora Bora', and whatnot. Kerry suggested it would have been prudent to maybe close on the deal, whereas GWB decided he had already spent too much fretting over the guy and it was time too not worry so much about him. I mean, it's not like he was the cause of 9-11 or anything, right?

I'm not implying anything, Yas. I'll paste this again... I'm not, nor have I ever been a Bush-Cheney campaign official or a GOP senior strategist. There's no need to imply anything, they are quite happy to lay it ouut for anybody paying attention. The whole up and down with the terror levels, based on three year old information sometomes, based on made up information at other times, based on nothing (excuse me, "redible, non-specific evidence") much of the time.... You don't think any of that falls into the category of playing the fear card? Wow.

I agree that capturing the guy would have been THE slam dunk. Short that, they had to play tthe fear card and it worked weel for tham. The truth is that when Chimpy decided to take up the family vendetta in Iraq it necissitated a shift in focus and pretty much guaranteed failure in hunting down bin Laden. But, yes, it was probably better for him to say, 'you know Osama's no big deal,' than to say, 'you know, I'm a complete f*** up and we have no idea what we're doing. On that much we agree.

Well, it seems the first step in looking for him is to actually to, you know..., be thinking about him. Or am I missing something?

Who's brainwashed? Who's brainwashed? Bush on Osama: That, of course, is a direct quote. In the third debate Kerry repeated that quote verbatim, reminding Bush and the awake 49% of the country that Bush's self-proclaimed disinterest in the former number one target of the War on Terror was, well, a little unnerving. Bush then somehow managed to say, straight-faced, that Kerry's VERBATIM QUOTE "was an exaggeration." Who's brainwashed?

Thanks. I actually have amassed a little collection of GWB giving the one-fingered salute. Most of them are pre-roll newspool, cutting room floor things, but this one with the flag in it seems to kind of sum things up attitude-wise. 'Course, we all have different opinions on whether that's a good thing or a bad thing. I kind of picture him striking that world-defying pose at the podium in front of the UN. And again, we all have different opinions on the merits of that. Still, it seems more frat boy than presidential to me.

Then again, maybe he didn't...

Happy Happy!

You can't teach an Old Roman new tricks... Knowing it was Roman, it's pretty impressive he made it almost a month before the hate bombs got launched. Must have been killing him.

Booboo? Is that like a hoo hoo? You can thank Soxy for adding that "cooterism" to my vocabulary.

But... but... Daley is a Democrat, so.... it's OK...? I lost my love for Daley when my dad got canned by him in a puely political appeasement move. He was Deputy Director at the Dept. of Health for 20 years, and was essentially the moving force behind the proactive inner city clinic reforms, mobile clinics in the 80's, very apolitical (had held the spot since Richard J.), but got axed in a political move. Oh well, now the city has to pay him wads of money as a private consultant to keep their hospital certifications current, when they used to be able to get him to do it for a public servants salary.

I'm not defending the derug companies in any way, but some of these products take as much as 20 years and $1 billion to develop and bring to market. Yeah, the FDA is a bloated, beurocratic behemoth. That said, I couldn't think of a scarier scenario than having the drug companies self-regulate the industry. in the end, there may be some legal accountability, but only after many more toxicity and side efffect related deaths. A self-regulated drug industry would see the profit potential of turning 20/$1 billion into maybe 5/$100 M, and effectively argue that sick people need their novel meds. Then we'd really see a rush to market with new drugs.

That is the way science works, Yas, you know that. Special Relativity is still "only a theory," but light indeed exhibits duality, bends in gravity, etc., A-bombs follow the rules very nicely.... It falls short of the Grand Unification Einstein sought. It needed a few fudge factors as place-holders for strong forces, Higgs Bosons and such, but the fact that some "mere theory" anticipated those entities existed remains impressive. Ditto for Chuck D's theory of evolution by means of natural selection. He had no way to know what the particles of inheritance were (unaware of Mendel's work at the time), but he understood very well that such discrete units had to exist. He coldn't use approaches like comparative proteomics and genomics, but as these tools are added to the arsenal they continue to corroborate the theory. This is a general quip directed not at you, but at the detractors of sound science in general. In about sixth grade, students learn the difference between an hypothesis and a concept that has been so rigorously tested that it is elevated to the status of a theory. Conveniently forgetting the difference is yet another shell game of the Creation "scientists." Fortunately, their relevance today is on par with that of flat earthers or geocentrists.