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QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 05:41 PM) No. But Nancy Grace (GAG ME!) on Headline News already labeled it the Valentines Day Campus Massacre. rucking fidiculous everything has to have "a name"...

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 05:43 PM) yea, we dont budget that way. One thing we were told in marriage prep.. "It's not your money. It's not my money. It's OUR money". I have friends who divide their money. It's nasty. I was making a funny. but, I agree...one checking account for us.

QUOTE(retro1983hat @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 11:03 AM) Just an update, I asked the new company for more money and am waiting to hear back. I am nervous, but hopeful. if you're taking a hit in the vacation department, then hell yes you should ask for more money. my play would have been to set up 6 month performance appraisal with a bump in pay and vacation. If I work out, then you win...and therfore, I'm motivated to do my best because there is a serious amount of benefits involved.

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 05:36 PM) Well, just found out I owe $1200 in taxes because my lovely wife had her tax withdrawals setup wrong at work. So, i give the government $1200 and in May get it back. So much for helping the economy. by my math, she's 600 bucks in the hole and you still have 600 bucks to spend on yourself, er, the economy.

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 04:02 PM) I could so respond to that, but my explanation wouldn't be umm.... kid friendly, nor appropriate for this discussion. lol check the mascots

QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 04:15 PM) The best way to keep the terrorists from stealing our rights is to give them up! Why can't people understand that? Innocent until proven guilty does not work, if the cops think you are guilty, you lose all rights. That's when we are really safe. maybe if we gave teh terrorists welfare checks and sponge baths they'd be happy?

QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 04:03 PM) What we need are more guns, 150 guns in that room would have stopped that gunman. Imagine 150 students pulling weapons and shooting that bastard. Pity the poor kid who shoots last, nothing left to hit or idiot seeking bullets.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 03:53 PM) And yet...there are so many people out there who want to trust the same all knowing, all wise government with the right to read every one of these posts, every one of my emails, and every one of my phone calls, without even requiring a warrant. Kinda strange isn't it? Sorry for the thread hijack. read my mail, just know that I'll shoot back when you come looking for me

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 03:12 PM) On my behalf, my wife would like to dispute that REPUBLICAN!!!!!

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 03:42 PM) Too soon? scram! skinney boy

QUOTE(Reddy @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 02:10 PM) i. hate. fox. news. lol it's getting to the point where it's just comical. i legitimately think that the Daily Show is probably now officially a better news source than Fox. I don't know if you caught it in that video, but according to a new Fox News study apparently Democrats have small weiners.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 02:37 PM) I think I've literally seen every (non-chick flick) movie that has come out in the last three months. Just throwing that out there. I go to at least one movie a week, and usually two. Considering this is the worst time to see a movie (content wise)...I'm sorry for you.

QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 01:03 PM) "I have no chance at an award" award..... sounds like a good award to me

QUOTE(Reddy @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 02:16 PM) you know what... when i was younger i always avidly fought the idea that video games led to actual violence... but now, thinking about it, you have to admit there's a correlation. lately we've seen new horror movies coming out a couple times a month glorifying all this violence. it's halloween all year round. I mean, you think about the Saw series, and the draw is "oh my god how's he gonna kill them next? what kind of f*cked up, twisted thing will he think of next!!!? and we're sucked into it. We glorify these things. All in all, our culture truly is desensitizing kids to violence and that may very well play a role... in fact, probably a big one. violence, sex, etc. People see that they don't have to try when marriages get hard, so why does is surprise us that there are so many divorces? people just don't care, don't want to try, and don't have accountability around them.

QUOTE(Reddy @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 02:06 PM) you know what, even though i've never been very religious i'd 100% agree with you on this. I think that it's exactly what you're talking about that put me off from the church to begin with. They preach one thing, this caring for others, etc. but i rarely see it in action. if they did what you suggest i think it'd be a much needed turnaround. this is odd... in one morning i've agreed with both Kap and PA... what's going on? see, we're not all bad At church I'm the rebel who doesn't stop questioning old traditions, on soxtalk I'm the fundementalist. talk about perspective

QUOTE(Reddy @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 02:01 PM) from your perspective No, from Jesus' perspective... Extremely Religious People Clutching to Traditions and Law = Pharisees and we know how most of them turned out.

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QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 01:38 PM) I agree 100%. Enforcing something like that can be a challenge though. "It is unconscionable to restrict people's civil rights because they have a medical illness," said Nada Stotland, vice president of the American Psychiatric Association (though APA says it doesn't take a position). David Shern, president of Mental Health America, denounced the measure as "an extremely ill-informed, regressive social policy that further stigmatizes people and will do nothing to reduce gun violence." The critics say the ban discriminates against people with mental illness, based on the erroneous assumption that they are more violent than other people. this person is probably right, but so far, I'm not convinced. two major shootings at two major universities by two major wackos with crazy pill problems.

I don't know if it's a God in or God out of school thing, but I think the trend for every Generation to disassociate themselves with their parents generation and the norms and traditions that they support has led us to where we are. This is all fueled by the technological advancements of the TV, the Computer, and the Internet. Each successive generation has rejected the idea of "community" and taken on the cause of the individual. This has led us to the "whatever" generation, the "my so called life" generation, etc. This pace has been quickened by the above technologies. What is interesting is that inside all of us is the longing for community. You can see it in the shows we watch Friends, Seinfeld, Cheers, Scrubs ...and throughout our culture....just not in our expectations. We have a desire and a longing to interact with community, yet we say "no way!" to the concept that sometimes it's better for the community to help shape ourselves over our own abilities to do so. In other words, the people you love and respect should have every right to call you out for the crazy things you do. a sub conversation I'd like to talk about is the role the church has played..or rather the lack of role the church has played over the past 50 years in setting the culture of community. Churches have allowed themselves to become little islands within their castle walls. What I would like to see is more churches tearing down their protective barriers and interacting with their neighbors in relevant ways and set an example of caring just to care about people; be vulnerable because that is how we learn and change....so that people can learn and change. anyway, another time.

QUOTE(Reddy @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 11:21 AM) It's not about God. Sometimes people who are brought up in insanely religious families go apesh*t as well. Personally, it's situations like this that make me wonder why so many people are against stricter firearm regulations. i fully support hunters rights, but why do we need handguns and automatic weapons? both were ONLY designed to kill PEOPLE. There is NO reason an average civilian should need or have either. that's where people don't get it. Religion = Rules The Gospel = Freedom from those rules So, even though people seem incredibly "religious" they may not be any better off than an atheist in relation to their proximity to God. So yes, it is a God issue.

I would like to say that I'm in favor of gun controls for PEOPLE WHO TAKE CRAZY PILLS.

QUOTE(Reddy @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 11:57 AM) good point. yeah i dunno. hey how bout this - require that all guns be made with grips that store your fingerprint so that you know who's used/registered to the gun. then people would think twice about committing a crime with it cuz they'd ID you in a heartbeat. i was kinda kidding at first but that'd be a pretty good idea... lol clearly you haven't seen Judge Dredd

QUOTE(Soxy @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 11:15 AM) This is not the right place for this discussion for a "god" discussion. Let's stick to worrying about the people involved and showing support and care for them in this thread please. I will start a thread in the Buster--but let's keep this one apolitical. that's why I did not proceed. Thanks for making the statement though.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 11:24 AM) I just updated on Tuesday... ok, great. Thanks.

QUOTE(Reddy @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 11:10 AM) i think it has nothing to do with God. Fair enough.