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You'd rather move CLee than Maggs, Jas? I dunno. CLee is cheaper, IMO has more upside in terms of power, obviously can be a good runner on the bases, has really solidified his defense, and is younger. Maggs after 2004 is gonna walk anyways, looking for the big payday, and we certainly won't be the team to give it to him.

We'd be on the hook for Cedeno in 2005 also, and I don't think we will need him in 2004, much less 2005.

Gload is just straight mashing the ball right now. If we can trade Slownerko this Off-season, at least let Gload have his shot in ST. Its a long shot, but he at least deserves the opportunity to play in ST. AaRow, OTOH, I'm gonna assume that you all were being sarcastic about him, and leave it at that. He is due a shot at the everyday job, and shall get it in Arizona

Why, oh why do alot of you all wanna trade Koch for Roger FREAKIN Cedeno?!? Koch has had one bad year. Has Roger Cedeno had more than one GOOD one? And for the cost of $4 mill more?? WTF? i don't understand. Batting Year Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS 1995 LOS 40 42 4 10 2 0 0 3 3 10 1 0 .238 .283 .286 .568 1996 LOS 86 211 26 52 11 1 2 18 24 47 5 1 .246 .326 .336 .663 1997 LOS 80 194 31 53 10 2 3 17 25 44 9 1 .273 .362 .392 .753 1998 LOS 105 240 33 58 11 1 2 17 27 57 8 2 .242 .317 .321 .638 1999 NYM 155 453 90 142 23 4 4 36 60 100 66 17 .313 .396 .408 .804 2000 HOU 74 259 54 73 2 5 6 26 43 47 25 11 .282 .383 .398 .781 2001 DET 131 523 79 153 14 11 6 48 36 83 55 15 .293 .337 .396 .733 2002 NYM 149 511 65 133 19 2 7 41 42 92 25 4 .260 .318 .346 .664 2003 NYM 148 484 70 129 25 4 7 37 38 86 14 9 .267 .320 .378 .698 Career 968 2917 452 803 117 30 37 243 298 566 208 60 .275 .343 .374 .717 Thats Cedeno's career numbers. I see back-to-back subpar years, a career OBP of .343, only 9 points better than the once never-taking a walk Carlos Lee. I'm sorry, I just don't see this move being a positive for the team.

Think its been posted somewhere in this long-ass thread, but worth a repost anyways

Are you serious?? That first pic is an actual screenshot? Jeezus...I thought it was just a photo someone took with their digital camera.

Is that good or bad, I don't know. I agree though, and have long been a motivating force behind trading Maggs now before we start the final year that we will have him anyway. Face it, if he expects a 4yr/60 mill contract, see ya. NO WAY IN HELL do I want to see Roger Cedeno in a Sox uni next year, and really no reason to trade CLee while we still control some of his FA abilities. I'd take a Konerko-for-Odalis Perez deal if Perez' contract isn't TOO bad. Thats a lefty for the Rotation. If they could then get Ponson, I'd LOVE Buehrle, Loaiza, Ponson, Garland, Perez

Hmmm, not sure I wanna see a baseball game in a "funhouse" anyways. But good article otherwise.

Agreed YASNY, but its not too often in todays era of American League baseball that you see a pitcher not named Pedro with a sub-3.00 ERA. Great season ELoz, lets see ya do it again in 2004

For those of you familiar with the phrase, this is just the S.S.D.D for the Sox. We should be all used to it, but yet we always hold that shimmer of hope that THIS year will be the year JR says "Screw it" and goes for it. Sadly, that moment hasn't happened for us long suffering Sox fans.

Robin would be a valuable guy IF we could find a way to move Konerko. Face it, someone HAS to go. As for 2B and CF, I still don't see how you can't let AaRow get his shots to be the everyday CFer, and let second got to Willie/Miles/Robbie or whoever you want to give the shot to in ST.

Met Hawk at Picnic in the Park in 2000, Talked to him for about 15 minutes, great guy, and great ambassador for the Sox. When I told him I was from South Carolina, he talked about his minor league days in this area, and being from Woodruff, Sout Carolina. I can hear the Hawkisms over and over, and they don't bother me at all. Hell, he helped convert my best friend to a Sox fan. Haw and Wimpy, yeah they prolly were the best duo for the Sox, but DJ ain't too bad, and he's improving IMO. I really warmed up to DJ after the Toronto fiasco, as seen below in one of my former sigs.

More like "Buehrle sent to the Cardinals for Ozzie Canseco, Pete Rose Jr."

Yeah, I don't see how ANYONE can be in favor of giving Koch to NY for Roger FREAKIN Cedeno!!! We don't need his 10 million dollar albatross of a contract, I'd rather take a shot at Koch getting right. Hell, even if he doesnt, that 6+ mill is off our books after 2004. PLEASE, KW, think before you actually consider this horrid trade idea.

Agreed, YASNY, whether or not I wanna admit it, Hendry did a helluva job moving Hundley, and dealing with the CF issue.

hehe, Boz, was just gonna post to tell everyone that I hope they like their Sigs and avatars, cuz they are stuck with them for now.

I'm sorry, but this trade makes EVEN LESS sense than the $5 mill option for JosE6. Yeah, Koch had a bad year, and we signed him to a 2 year contract before we saw him collapse. But that makes you want to trade him for an EXTREMELY overrated, aextremely overpaid OFer in Cedeno that we don't even have room for? WTF Kenny, get your s*** together. If they do this, then its almost guaranteed that Gordon will be brought back, wasting another $5 mill. Jeezus, I'm completely lost right now in terms of what the hell KW is trying to do, and methinks he is confused also.

Hehe, this is off topic, but that made me remember one of my favorite quotes from Coming to America: "You know him from the 'Whats Goin' Down" episode of 'Thats My Mama", ladies and gentlemen, put your hands together for Mr. RANDY WATSON!!!"

BE Good, GREAT showing by your boys today. I thought the Dolphins annual collapse usually didn't happen until December??

Are the Cowboys playin' a bit over their heads? Yes, of course they are. But regardless of that fact, the Cowboys Defense is quite possibly the best in the NFL. Not sure you can call that overrated. Don't think Defense can win NFL games? Ask Baltimore about that. True, the "Boys offense is nothing to be ecstatic about, but they have weapons at WR, hard for any othe Defense to cover Antonio Bryant, Joey Galloway, Terry Glenn, and 2 big ass catching TE like Whitten and Campbell.

Oh yeah! I'm a certified Leisure Suit Larry veteran. Played 'em all growing up. Those, and Police Quest, and King's Quest. Ah, all those great Sierra games from the past.

hehe, a fellow KaZaa cracker i see, eh Yahtzee

I fear Beastley is slipping back into wsc425 status, and we don't want that. Come on Beastley, you know better than that.