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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 12, 2014 -> 12:15 PM) For example, the Royals have "T-Shirt Tuesdays." Try something...anything...besides just fireworks, Picnic in the Park and Dog Day Afternoons. The Sox have a $20 lower deck ticket during Chris Sale starts which include a free t-shirt. They haven't sold that out, and it's only one section.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 12, 2014 -> 11:56 AM) Are you actually as stupid as that last question ? Damn either read everything I say or don't twist my words around. I said it's one of the many ways the Hawks show appreciation for the fans in a well run , well orchestrated marketing strategy. It all comes down to winning. The Hawks are winning. When they were not, they occassionally had tickets for FREE on ticketmaster.com, and still didn't have half the seats full. The White Sox need to win consistently. It has to be where making the playoffs is the expectation year after year, not hoping to get in once every 5 or 6 season. Then, attendance will be fine.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 12, 2014 -> 10:45 AM) I haven't seen it on Comcast and I watch just about every game. Besides , really , a congratulations commercial ? I mean, yea , it's great to say thank you Jose but why say it over and over to him in a commercial ? There's a growing disconnect between players and fans because of the huge money some of these guys make .The players don't need more accolades , the fans need accolades for spending their hard earned money to come to games or at the very least to be coddled , cajoled or convinced that it's rewarding to come see this team. Didn't they air an hour long special on Abreu's April on CSN? And have replayed it numerous times?

In 2005, when the team was never not in first place, on May 5th, they drew 15k. This team is coming off a 99 loss season, the weather has been terrible. It isn't that complicated why they aren't drawing. If they continue to play well when the weather is nice and school is out, then maybe try to make this complicated. Right now, it is not. I will say, there have been several games this season they haven't been checking tickets for getting into the 100 level, if that matters to anyone.

QUOTE (bmags @ May 11, 2014 -> 05:57 PM) Pretty sure Kiper gave the Seahawks a C- after the draft that netted Wilson, Wagner and Irvin. During the draft I can get a little pissed at picks I don't like, but then I immediately turn on the GMs side as soon as someone says " he could've gotten him in the 3rd or fourth round." frankly the info fans have available to them is shoddy at best and gets even worse after top 20 are gone. The whole problem IMO is the term "value", especially since most of the value is determined by guys like McShay and Kiper. Long wasn't considered a value pick, yet he turned out OK, and eventually might be one of their better picks when it is all said and done. His dad said he wouldn't have been on the board much longer. That could have been. Dad talking or a guy with some good info. I do like listening to Polian. He obviously knew what he was doing. But he doesn't seem to want to argue with the other guys and I think because he was one, ripping another GMs draft isn't going to be something he is comfortable with.

QUOTE (zenryan @ May 11, 2014 -> 04:03 PM) I always enjoy reading an article ripping Todd McShay ProFootballTalk I have tried to google it but all i ever come up with is how McShay and Kiper do on accuracy of their mock drafts. Does anyone know of any place that shows how accurate they are with their rankings of players overall as far as how they actually perform in the NFL?

When you don't hit much, you look dead. The Sox didn't hit much.

Why do people who don"t go to games complain about people not going to games?

QUOTE (fathom @ May 11, 2014 -> 04:20 PM) Doesn't Cooper have a big say on handling how long relievers are left in? Yes but he is a genius and Ventura an idiot so you have to ignore the facts. I thought from earlier game threads you are supposed to manage like the game is going at least 14 innings.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 10, 2014 -> 02:00 PM) I wonder if this is the quickest a reliever has ever been designated for assignment after starting the 9th with a 1-run lead. Less than a month. Maybe Mitchell Boggs with St. Louis. There has to be closers who have been DFA'd during the season.Valverde got DFA'd as the Tigers closer.

It was time. I thiought they might give him one more shot, but it doesn't chap my ass they didn't.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 10, 2014 -> 08:06 AM) I will say that I love how much our guys have been swinging 3-0 this year. I feel like we're usually a team that hasn't done that in the past and I love the aggressiveness. Ozzie had the Sox taking 3-0. Always. Used to drive Hawk nuts. Hawk had a theory it had to do with Ozzie not being guy who was given 3-0 green lights when he was playing, due to the type of hitter he was.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 9, 2014 -> 08:55 PM) Danks, Floyd and Ramirez didn't have anything to do with that? The Quentin trade was a good one, but not an all-time steal like it seemed the first season for Quentin in a Sox uniform. And let's not forget that his own temper also managed the sabotage that season, just as much as the first 5 months were MVP caliber. I would say Carlos Quentin for Chris Carter is one of KW"s best trades.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 9, 2014 -> 06:50 PM) But can't you say the same for Eaton, if you're a GM and you're concerned he can't stay healthy (see Quentin, Carlos)? Or Davidson, if you're concerned he's going to strike out too much at the upper levels of the minors/AAAA/MLB? What does Davidson have to do with Santiago? I do agree the rate he is fanning in AAA seems to imdicate they dumped him in the nick of time. But Hahn should be looking at doing time for the Eaton trade.

They got rid of Santiago just in time.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 9, 2014 -> 03:24 PM) You know, the organizations that have used the "time" rebuild really didnt come out better for it. It took the Pirates what, 25 years? The Royals still havent been in the playoffs. The Astros dont look any better for it. And you are kidding yourself if you think Theo has a lot of time. He has HAD a lot of time, and the on field results have gotten bad, and the natives are getting restless. Sveum was offered as a sacrifice, but eventually the fans and owner will turn their attention to the planners if things dont start to change. Larry Himes totally rebuilt the White Sox in 3 years (4 drafts). They had a 94 win team with the lowest payroll in baseball. And he got fired. But you are correct, most of these total dismantles wind up taking at least a decade. Although I don't see Ricketts telling Theo to hit the road any time soon.

What is the over/under for how many times Stone mentions USCF to be a "lively park" tonight?

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 6, 2014 -> 09:44 PM) Paul George slept with Roy Hibberts wife. Damn, My money was on Evan Turner. No it was Avi Garcia.

QUOTE (flavum @ May 8, 2014 -> 12:31 PM) Yankees will retire Joe Torre's number 6 on August 23, before a game with the White Sox. The New York Daily News welcomed the hiring of Torre with a huge headline that said, "CLUELESS JOE." The subhead read, "Torre Has No Idea What He's Getting Himself Into." It referenced a column written by Ian O'Connor in which O'Connor said that Torre "came across as naïve at best, desperate at worst." Wrote O'Connor, "It's always a sad occasion when man becomes muppet." I guess he was better than at least one writer thought.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 8, 2014 -> 12:19 PM) I didn't think so. Keep on trollin'! Wow.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 8, 2014 -> 12:12 PM) I skipped some of the conversation, but the key things to think about regarding "clutch" are definitional. If Abreu is a 1.000 OPS hitter in a neutral situation, is he a choker when his OPS is .850 in the clutch? What if he's at 1.000 OPS? If Leury is a .550 OPS hitter normally and .700 OPS in the clutch, is he a really clutch hitter? There's your first problem. When defining clutch, are we measuring a hitter against himself or against the league? Chances are, even if Abreu was "not clutch" insofar as he was a significantly worse hitter than he normally is in clutch situations, he'd still be the best choice in a clutch situation. The other big problem in terms of definitions is deciding what constitutes a clutch situation. Often, "late and close" is used as a surrogate for clutch spots. This means 7th or later, batting team is ahead by one run, tied, or losing by an amount such that the tying run is at least on deck. Of course, you wouldn't say an Abreu strikeout to lead off the 7th of a game when we're losing by 1 constitutes a choke. Sometimes you could argue it was productive if his presence caused the team to use a righty against Dunn. Anyways, we often see that a play becomes clutch after the fact; there was no particular pressure to succeed in this hypothetical situation, but if he hit a bomb we'd probably label it an example of his acumen in the clutch. RISP is another surrogate, but suffers from some of the same pitfalls. Do we start patting Tyler Flowers on the back for a bloop single with nobody out and the bases loaded in the second inning? So clutch! Then again, maybe that is clutch. It's more clutch than most other singles. If you narrow the definition of clutch too much, you end up making all claims about the clutch borderline unfalsifiable. PK is the most clutch hitter in history because he hits grand slams 100% of the time that he bats with the bases loaded in the World Series. You get the idea. You work with unbelievably small sample sizes and you start to fine tune your definition to prove your hypothesis rather than coming up with an idea of clutch and seeing if the data confirms your beliefs or not. That is part of the problem. Defining what is clutch and what is not is difficult, the sample size is going to be small and unlike other sports, sample size can come into play more often because many outs occur during a good AB. I am just not sold and never will be, on situations not making a difference on any hitter's performance.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 8, 2014 -> 12:01 PM) I love the ADMIT IT post. One minute you were calling me a stalker for referring to your post, but then are all too happy to point out it was wrong. So which is it? And on a related note, the only reason you are posting any of this stuff is to get a rise out of people. ADMIT IT! It is the same thing with the Gordon Beckham stuff, or any of the rest of it. ADMIT IT ADMIT IT! No, just pointing out that Gordon Beckham isn't going to hit .170. Just pointing out after 3 innings allowing 1 hit, that John Danks isn't throwing straight 88 mph fastballs to everyone. Those are facts. What you said I posted was not. This is a White Sox message board. Too bad pulling for White Sox players to do well and pointing out when they are when others are saying they are so bad is now considered trolling. Either copy and paste what you said I posted here, or just say you were wrong. It really isn't hard.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 8, 2014 -> 11:52 AM) Bernstein likes Theo's approach. That doesn't make him a Cubs fan or mean that he isn't or can't be a White Sox fan. I'd love him to explain the Edwin Jackson signing.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ May 8, 2014 -> 11:25 AM) Abreu's at-bats were pretty impressive last night. His last hit (the single) showed great adjustment to an inside pitch. Hawk kept talking about it and saying how much it reminds him of Frank Thomas. I wish, but Abreu swings at a lot more bad pitches than Frank. We will see moving forward what happens, but if he ever achieves anywhere near Frank's discipline at the plate, his numbers are going to be insane.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 8, 2014 -> 11:41 AM) . His positive comments on the Sox have been very few. Sounds like a gamethread, even sometimes during White Sox wins. I used to like Bernstein. I thought he would go national like Greenberg. I think he got too full of himself. If you don't agree with him, you are just dumb. And putting dumb callers on the air just so they can rip into them isn't really riveting radio. Maybe for a little while it was, but it gets old.