Dick Allen

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 4, 2014 -> 07:47 PM) And missing the forest for the trees, I take it that means you have given up on this one. No I haven't. You are advocating knowingly taking a lesser player at #3 so there is more money available for lesser players. It is the same thing as trading Sale for prospects. Quantity over quality. If you are so concerned the Sox will draft a bust at #3 the chances only get greater they choose a bust later in the draft. As of now, the only player to appear in the major leagues for the Sox in the 2009 draft is Josh Phegley.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 4, 2014 -> 09:52 AM) Because he was picked #29, and given a slot level bonus. If an organization was willing to bet their entire draft on him, shouldn't they have probably oh, I don't know, actually drafted the guy? Serious that it makes zero sense to speculate that an organization would be willing to bet a ridiculous amount on the guy when pretty much all of baseball actually passed once on the guy. That is just dumb because the actual reality doesn't support that at all. He was picked 25.

QUOTE (JoshPR @ May 4, 2014 -> 02:49 PM) Viciedo needs to get through his thick head to stay short and quick, it will fly like it just did. If he gets that through his head he'll have good at bats I don't know if you have noticed, but he is having a pretty good year.

It will be interesting to see if Kluber comes out in the 8th. The game Hawk mentioned with Buerhle happened in 2002. The Sox were leading 3-1 and Buehrle threw 104 pitches through 7. Keith Foulke got lit up. Kluber is at 100 pitches.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 3, 2014 -> 09:04 PM) It's unbelievable that you still don't understand the difference between a 32-year old trainwreck-turned-bounceback free agent this past offseason, and a 29 year-old consistently solid free agent next offseason. We don't hate free agents, Marty, we hate s***ty players. Who is this 29 year old consistently solid free agent available next year, and who was the 32 year old train wrecked turned bounce back free agent this past offseason?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 3, 2014 -> 08:18 PM) The other question not asked is whether Mike Trout would be the player he is today if in his first spring training he'd destroyed his leg to the point it took him 2 years to recover. He missed a season. You can say Mitchell was going to be a star if that injury never occurred, but he had a lot of trouble with contact before that injury. He was a very raw player when drafted, but I don't know how that injury is the reason he doesn't make contact. He is a bust and more than likely would have been a bust had that injury never happened.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 3, 2014 -> 08:19 PM) And NO ONE thought Mike Trout was the best player. That is exactly the point. Your method would have wasted an entire draft for garbage, despite this draft creating plenty of major leaguers, and this team having both plenty of players drafted after the #3 pick and many players drafted after that point being used to generate the roster we have now. The Angels did. The Mariners picking 2nd were torn, and they were wrong.the Yankees thought he was the best player in the draft.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 3, 2014 -> 07:57 PM) Again, that is my point. Who IS better. But at that point you are trying to project who will be better down the road. And you are willing to take that projection and sacrifice every single player who would come after the #3 pick for that one player. Even though Mike Trout was picked WAY down the draft board from #3. The best player in that draft wasn't taken #1, #2, or #3. He was taken #29, and pretty no one expected it. There was no outrage on draft day that Mike Trout fell to #29. Your method misses out on Mike Trout. BTW, the #3 pick in 2009? Donovan Tate. Congrats, you got a bust, and no other player to show for it. You also missed on guys like Paul Goldschmit, Jason Kipnis, Wil Myers, and a couple dozen of other major league baseball players. The point of drafting is to pick the player you think will be the best player on the board, anything else is the old way which got you Broadway and crap like that. The 2 excuses used for the White Sox poor drafts were money allocated and draft position. What you propose would make this draft business as usual. The Sox missed on all the players you mentioned anyway.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 3, 2014 -> 07:35 PM) Probably applies most to the guy who had a 8.94 BB/9 rate at AAA Memphis last year and has a 9.00 BB/9 rate with the White Sox All things being equal, Cleto or Downs should go. Downs definitely won't . It will probably be Putnam. .

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 3, 2014 -> 07:33 PM) So you won't put your money where your mouth is and stop trolling the rest of the site? That's more important to you? Funny how that works out. I am not trolling. What is the consequence of your latest mistake?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 3, 2014 -> 07:25 PM) I'll leave if you will. Didn't you just post you expect consequences for each mistake you make? Funny how that worked out.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 3, 2014 -> 07:27 PM) Yeah, whatever. I'll be more likely to cry when we don't get anything back in return for our investment into him. Our investment? Do you own the team?

Caulfield in tears. Double for Beckham.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 3, 2014 -> 07:22 PM) Leury? Mistake. You can't post tomorrow.

Solid single for Tumbleweed.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 3, 2014 -> 07:09 PM) No, Adam Dunn thinks this is no different than Little League. He's the one who just made a little league mistake. People do make mistakes. Even you.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 3, 2014 -> 07:03 PM) The good news is Dunn will clearly be benched/punished somehow for a boneheaded baserunning msitake there. You reslly think this is no different than Little League. Or else why would you want to punish the team and leave a hot Adam Dunn on the bench for a game as punishment for a mistake he rarely makes and is fully aware should not happen.

Dunn is usually a slow but real good baserunner. That blunder was surprising.

QUOTE (Baron @ May 3, 2014 -> 07:00 PM) Robin loves giving the game completely away by putting Down out there At times this year, you could say that about every member of the bullpen.

QUOTE (flavum @ May 3, 2014 -> 06:59 PM) I agree. Not sure what they're trying to prove batting Beckham 2nd, other than he sucks. Alexei is hitting about .170 vs. Masterson.

Downs warming up in the bullpen.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 3, 2014 -> 06:35 PM) I simply said I don't think he will hit over .240. Nice attempt to spin, though. Actually, I would rather see anyone besides Beckham (wasting my time as a fan), but it's a business, and they re-signed him for one more season, so they're going to try to get some type of return back. At first you said .215-.220 but then when you wanted to bet you were a little nervous so you raised it. No one is dumb enough to think you actually want Gordon Beckham to do well.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 3, 2014 -> 06:32 PM) 2 unearned runs.............f*** Swisher in Sox uniform he could not do s***! He was awesome defensively at 1b for the Sox.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 3, 2014 -> 06:31 PM) Same exact thing you were doing with those comments about Marcus Semien. Especially considering he actually made hard contact. Tit for tat. What? I actually WANT Semien to get hits. You want Beckham to make outs.

Francona bunting.