Dick Allen

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 17, 2014 -> 07:07 AM) Exactly my point. I think Caulfield said 2005 has had a negative effect on White Sox attendance and I think he has a point. Titles will pack USCF, just contending and being in first place, apparently won't anymore. At least it didn't in 2012. We heard the excuses...People just knew they would fold. I don't know why folding the last half of September keeps you from attending a game of a first place team in July or August on a beautiful night, but apparently, that is where the Sox fanbase is at right now. It's pretty sad. Unless they win some more titles, I don't think there is much they can do to get the average close to or over 30k, like other teams with the same amount of success. White Sox fans have so many excuses, and when the Sox address those excuses they come up with more. I don't blame them for not going last year, but 2008 they were a playoff team and couldn't draw what they did in 2007. In 2011, they were "all in" and couldn't sell as many tickets as 2010. In 2012 they were in first place most of the season and couldn't match the 2011 total.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 17, 2014 -> 07:13 AM) I didn't care for the over managing in the 8th. I didn't stay up after the tenth. Leury Garcia eh? I could see where at the end you can call it overmanaging, but if he didn't yank those guys after walks and they continued to pitch like they were pitching, it would have been considered dumb managing leaving them in. Ventura was screwed on White Sox message boards either way. Leury was fun to watch pitch. He hit 88 and had a lot of movement.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Apr 16, 2014 -> 10:14 AM) Possibility, definitely not probability. And his K rate is 39%, not 45% so far. K rate is K/PA not K/AB. Pretty ridiculous to make any assumptions based on his 13 games played so far this year. His career minor league K rate is about 25%. Not great, but acceptable if he's going to hit for power and walk. The problem is K-rates that high in the minors generally lead to higher K-rates in the majors. I'm not writing him off, but unless he becomes a 30-40 homer guy, I don't think he's going to have much of a career if he doesn't improve making contact. Hopefully, he is currently just going through a bad stretch and it is not a sign of where he's really at, or this arb clock everyone is worried about is moot.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Apr 16, 2014 -> 08:52 AM) It's still April, and there's no guarantee that Dunn keeps this up all season, but in the hypothetical scenario where he actually puts up a .240/.420/.500 season, then why would you not take him back on a 1-year/$14M deal? It's hard to get guys his age on 1-year deals because they're generally looking to get 3-4 years to cover their decline. Even so, I don't think if Dunn is hitting .240/.420/.500 in July that he will still be here. He will have very good trade value and despite the nice start, I still think it's unlikely the Sox are in serious contention in July. Too many bullpen issues, and too many hitters (Ramirez, Flowers) that are destined to come back to earth at some point. You wouldn't because you would be paying him to do it again next year and that is very doubtful at this point. Dunn isn't very good, but he doesn't deserve the hate and boos he has received. He seems to be a good guy, a good teammate and certainly is one of the few White Sox who has run everything out the past 3 years. It's not like he isn't trying. That said, there is no scenerio, even if he keeps this up, do I think the Sox would give him a QO, and there is no way he keeps this up. His OPS is almost 1.100. Soxtalk has removed him from the dead weight list. He is doing exactly what the best case scenerio for him would be. Hopefully, he hits like he did the middle 4 months of last year for the entire season. He'll help win more games, but I'm sure, unless he has his best season with the White Sox, and is willing to play for peanuts next year, he's done with the team at the end of this season at the latest.

Downs in to walk Bradley.

Dunn is having a nice season.

That ball was ridiculously outside. If Flowers swung, it is doubtful he would have hit it.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 15, 2014 -> 07:45 PM) There wasn't a replay that showed him safe. That one they showed from by the dugout, his foot was off the bag way after the ball was in his mitt, not sure what they were trying to show there. It's as likely that he was still on the bag when that was caught, replays didn't show anything different. Bit if you piece them together as to when he had the ball in the glove and then use that information in the shot that shows the location of the foot, he was clearly safe. I thought the idea of replays were to get the calls right. Maybe what they should do is install cameras shooting every base maybe from an overhead so you get a better angle.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Apr 15, 2014 -> 07:43 PM) Hawk saying a umpire missing 2nd call earlier in ydear goes against Sox not to make umpire look bad. I thought it was a good point. It was obvious the replay booth wasn't accurate that day.

Lovie is the Chief Executive of Challenges for the White Sox apparently.

Davidson has struggled with contact after a hot start.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Apr 15, 2014 -> 03:03 PM) They read soxtalk and saw my post about getting kicked out of the rf bleachers at old comiskey because they wanted to close it. When I was a kid, they had the RF upper deck closed against the Yankees. I was in the front row right above 1st in the upper deck with my dad. Reggie Jackson hit one into the closed sections. Almost in CF. It was a monsterous poke. I ran down and the usher let me go get it.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 15, 2014 -> 02:12 PM) It is a reactionary move. Also, who said anything about giving up on him too early? That has nothing to do with the discussion. It isn't a development thing with Beckham, or very little of that. Anything is possible, but I find it hard to believe a guy with only 71 MLB PA's coming into this year, just 32 games at AAA and less than a season at AA is going to be hurt by a couple months of AAA time. This is a development year for him either way, and he's going to spend some MLB time either way. This is going to be a really good stretch for him playing some top teams in Boston,Texas, Detroit and Tampa. If he makes it through with flying colors, make some room for him. If not, Charlotte for a couple of months isn't the worst thing in the world. At the very least he can work on his defense. It's been spotty at best.

Beckham probably won't be ready to go for a least another week or 2. Let's see where Semien is at then. Opinions can change, after all, Flowers and Dunn are no longer on the dead weight list. I'm sure 2 weeks from now either some who think Semien should remain the starting 2nd baseman or some who think he wouldn't be hurt by some time in Charlotte will change their minds.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Apr 15, 2014 -> 12:53 PM) Beckham "upping his trade value" is such a ridiculous notion. Gordon Beckham could hit .400 with 50 homers and you would say he was awful. He certainly can up his trade value and was hitting over .300 last year with a lot of warning track outs near the end of August after his wrist injury before his quad became a problem. Injured wrists zap power. It is a fact. If he is healthy, and that seems to be a problem, he still can be a really good player. You will never admit that and that is fine. You are not alone. If he can't get and stay healthy and perform, I'm sure he will be gone after this season.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 15, 2014 -> 09:47 AM) Peavy made some comments yesterday about how it was unfortunate that the fans didn't come out in 2012. Now The Mully and Hanley Show and Mac and Spiegs have been talking about it all day. Some of these f***ing idiots that call and text in make it embarrassing to be a White Sox fan. Just a bunch of f***ing excuse makers. It's too expensive. It's not fun. The team is bad. It's cold. The neighborhood is bad. It's hard to get to. All of which are bulls***. White Sox fans suck sometimes. It's not too expensive. Numerous people have mentioned how there is nowhere to go after the game. There are tons of places near the ballpark but why is it necessary to go out after? If everything is so expensive, then eat and drink in the parking lot which they allow you to do. It being cold is a valid excuse in April but I wish these callers and texters today would just drive off the road. White Sox fans are some of the biggest whiners in the league. Go read WSI and see what they complain about. It's unbelievable. Workers not smiling at them. There even is someone now saying the K-Zone for Chris Sale's starts is destined to be a "marketing disaster".

2 weeks ago the dead weight list would have been different. 2 weeks from now , it will be different again.

Is Jeff Nelson available?

2007 bullpen part 2. Who is next offseasons Linebrink? Francisco is no threat to anyone.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Apr 14, 2014 -> 02:36 PM) It's also probably fair to say that "depth" is not our problem right now. Konerkois useless on paper, sure, but his roster spot isn't keeping us from wins at this point. The "everyday" bullpen is the issue. So is Paulino, but it's typical for your 5th best starter to be in flux. We've actually been spoiled with good back-enders in recent years. Johnson has been horrid too, so that winds up making a fairly weak bullpen to begin with, weaker. Paulino and Johnson will get at least a little better, and that alone will help the bullpen, but right now, if Cleto and a rookie are the two guys you have any sense of confidence in, it is a pretty weak pen. I do think Veal is better than most think. He did give up runs Saturday but it was because he was the lamb. Normally he wouldn't have been out there that length of time.

QUOTE (Capn12 @ Apr 13, 2014 -> 06:29 PM) Such a pile of s*** that Matt f***ing Lindstrom gets a win, for being bats*** terrible. He did have to get 4 outs.

Not bad for the second worst hitter in baseball.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Apr 13, 2014 -> 03:32 PM) It was announced they'd moved from Sunday jerseys to alternates and would be worn when the players elected to Yes I know, but season tickets have the 83 theme on them so I am pretty sure you will see them on Sundays and a few other days. They wore them a couple of non Sundays last year. The players love them. I think it is pretty telling they are wearing them today after losing in them yesterday. Usually that would mean they would go to something else, but it is Sunday.

So they delayed the game 75 minutes where it didn't rain most of the time and when it did it was still playable, for this.

QUOTE (ChrisLikesBaseball @ Apr 13, 2014 -> 03:22 PM) This makes more sense now. Thank you. If they need a cash grab and want to make these permanent alternatives, I think they should use the 83 era road hat to match the helmet.