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Sun Times isreporting AJP telling people he won't be back with the Sox.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 11:54 PM) The guys on fox news really dont believe that there is a fundamental issue, this was just a tactical issue and as recently as last week Romney was winning easy. Its just odd. They will never admit Nate Silver was pretty much right on.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 05:08 PM) its the same with saying its a landslide, it could drive the other sides people to go out and vote as a hail mary. Regardless, I dont think people are stupid enough to just blindly believe what people are saying on tv. Which is why it reminds me of Baghdad Bob, and why I think its a terrible strategy. There are a lot of sheep out there. I think it was Karl Rove who came up with this strategy. I think most of Romney's family doesn't really believe it is a blow out in his favor, but if it can attract some to hop on the bandwagon, it is worth a shot.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:57 PM) You dont have to say things arent looking good. I posted a better statement above that keeps it positive but also reinforces the fact that everyone still needs to vote, because my projection is based on them doing it. But saying it is close is also heard from the other side, and could, if your theory is correct, encourage the other side out to vote. Saying you are blowing them out even if you are not isn't bad strategy, and there is always a slight chance it's even correct.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:53 PM) For Romney to win, the state polls need to be seriously off. They need to be systematically biased in Obama's favor, and if that's true in Ohio, it's true in NV, PA, WI etc. That would be Romney landslide territory. I don't think optimistic projections for your candidate are really going to damage your reputation as a campaign strategist down the road. The "landslide" victory still requires winning a bunch of tight races in numerous states. I would be surprised if Romney won, but I think he has a chance. McCain had no chance.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:50 PM) That may be true, but I think their strategy is defective. Id need to see some evidence that showed that somehow telling people its going to be a landslide increased voting in their favor. That to me just goes against all common sense. For example, Obama is going to win IL. Many Obama voters are indifferent on voting because their vote doesnt matter. They dont go out and vote just to say they voted. And if he said things weren't looking so good, he woul have a hard time getting more votes. People like going with winners. Bandwagon fans isn't exclusive to sports.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:36 PM) I get that its their strategy to say that they are winning, but it comes off as Baghdad Bob. Win or lose tonight, I would think they would still want some credibility tomorrow. There is a theory that people like to vote for winners. Tell everyone your data shows you winning big, if it is bought, it gets you more votes. Pretty much every loser in the presidential race was publicly optimistic on Election Day. If Romney loses in a landslide, no one will remember or care where his people had the numbers . If he loses, he won't be running for president again.

If Romney and his people truly thought he was going to win big, he wouldn't have been out campaigning today.

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 01:30 PM) Runner on 3rd less than 2 outs Adam Dunn hit .478 with an OPS of 1.499. So ya, theres that. He also struck out 5 times. As long as we are praising Dunn, check out his numbers with 2 out and runners in scoring position. It was only a year ago this very board wanted nothing to do with Carlos Quentin and his chance to make $ 8-9 million in arb for an .850+ OPS. Now they say you can't get an .800 OPS guy for less than $15 million per......

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 10:26 AM) Strikeout totals and batting average have little to do with a hitter's value, and I'm not 100% certain you can get a free agent guaranteed to put up an .800+ OPS for much less. Next time a Sox hitter strikes out with the tying run on 3rd and one out, remind me of this position. Dunn's OBP for which you seem to be touting, wasn't all that high. Even with leading the league in walks, it was 4th among Sox regulars.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 08:50 AM) Mercy. I hope he wins it again next year. If he gets back to his 2009 numbers and V.Martinez doesn't go nuts, he has a shot.

QUOTE (VAfan @ Nov 5, 2012 -> 05:17 PM) I'll reply here as well. McCarthy is not a reliable replacement for Floyd. In 7 seasons, he's averaging less than 100 IPs per year (654 innings total since 2005). Floyd has pitched 1127 innings since 2004. Both guys are 29 (Floyd is older by 6 months.). Don't really care about 3 or 4 or 5 years ago. But the point is true, chances are Floyd will give you more innings, the question is how many less would BMac give you. Assuming they are better innings, if he works for less money, and you can get something useful for Floyd, you can live with fewer innings as long as its still a,decent nimbler.

QUOTE (VAfan @ Nov 5, 2012 -> 05:04 PM) I would not want to replace Gavin Floyd in our rotation with Brandon McCarthy. McCarthy has one season of 170 IPs. Next highest is 111. Then 102. The FEWEST innings Gavin Floyd has pitched in the last 5 years is this year's 168, which happened because of his elbow issues. Otherwise it's 193, 187, 193, 206. McCarthy is not a reliable season-long starter. Plus, McCarthy has very significant home-away split differences. At the Oakland Coliseum, his ERA is in the mid-2's. Away, in 2011 it was 3.99, in 2012 it was 3.66. Meanwhile, over the last two years, pitching at US Cellular has hurt Floyd's stats. So, if McCarthy were cheap, he might be good insurance in case: Danks' return is delayed, or Quintana/Santiago don't pitch as well out of the 5th spot as they did this year. He is no replacement for Gavin Floyd, however. At least not a reliable one. If he could give you 170 innings, he is most likely an upgrade from Floyd, but he could give you less than 100 and no one would or at least should be surprised. I guess if they do sign him, it will be Herm's big job in 2013,

Jim "Bulls" Durham, former voice of the Bulls, and perhaps the greatest basketball PBP guy I have ever heard, also a former voice of the White Sox for a couple years in the late '80s, dead at 65. RIP.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 5, 2012 -> 07:13 AM) Is he even going to be able to pitch? He supposedly is good to go. Ultimately, And I'm no fan of Gavin Floyd, I think BMac in USCF gives you about what Floyd gives you, which IMO, isn't all that much in the end. But if someone wants to give you something for Floyd, it makes sense bringing McCarthy in. But if you go back a few months, not many here thought Floyd was worth anywhere near his option. Gavin has become a much better pitcher the last month or so just by sitting on his couch. If the BMac price is reasonable and Floyd has value, bring him in. If either of those aren't true, I would imagine he will wind up with another team.

QUOTE (Springfield SoxFan @ Nov 3, 2012 -> 06:42 PM) Hahn might have been responsible for drafting him or was a major part of his development. You can never have enough pitching. Again, what a difference a year makes when talking about the off season. I think Hahn has always had a hard on for him. The guy sounded like Hawk after Buehrle's perfect game when discussing him at Soxfest prior to the 2005 season. He will obviously miss starts, but if he's relatively cheap, there are worse things he could do.

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Nov 3, 2012 -> 06:18 PM) No, but Romo took the closers role and Casilla is their RH setup man so I venture to believe he's available....Has there ever been a rule against a big beard in the past?? He will get non tendered.

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Nov 3, 2012 -> 04:52 PM) I wouldn't mind trading for Brian Wilson though. He'd bring more fans IMO and would solidify the closer spot encase Reed isn't what we thought he was. If you get Wilson you can include Reed or Jones in a deal for a 3B. Isn't he a free agent. JR would never let that beard stay as is.

Sox are trying to sign Brandon Mc Carthy. I would guess that would make Flioyd official trade bait.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 3, 2012 -> 12:36 PM) I always thought Bulls fans were generally the dumbest in Chicago. Comments like this make me think otherwise. Enjoy Dan Johnson starting DH. Why are you saying the suggestion of dumping a guy who strikes out more often than anyone who ever played MLB, has a career .181 average with the Sox and is owed over $30 million over the next 2 years means the poster who suggested it is dumb? That money could be re allocated and I'm pretty sure you could find an .800 OPS guy for less. The fact is Dunn will be a White Sox next year, and one thing that cements it is no other team would take that contract.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 01:14 PM) Then who should we blame for Adam Dunn not scoring a run after he walks? I would think it's those 2 that had the most PA's with Adam standing on first. Sometimes there is no one to blame. A slow footed guy probably doesn't score much when they walk, no matter what team they play for. I understand that sometimes a walk is as good as a hit, and a walk is not a bad thing. I think most are not understanding what I'm saying. I just think a walk is as good as a hit fewer times for Adam Dunn than some players.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 11:53 AM) Yes, a little bit, but the guy batting behind him is the only one guaranteed to have some effect on his scoring via a walk. Especially if he makes the third out or GIDP. It's his job, if nothing else, to move him up a base or 2. If that guy isn't doing his job, it makes it that much more difficult for anyone batting further back to do it. Its kind of hard to blame Konerko and Rios since each had a higher OBP and SLG pct. than Adam.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 11:49 AM) Now you're just saying stuff to be an ass. No. You praised his strikeouts because they weren't DPs then said Konerko and Rios were hitting into DPs after Dunn drew a walk. If that's the case, my point is made. How good is a walk if a DP is soon to follow? Its like having an in his prime Mariano Rivera pitching for the 2012 Astros. And if that's the case, a guy who has walks as a next best weapon other than homers, shouldn't be hitting in front of guys who ground into a lot of DPs. So you are saying in a roundabout way, the 3 hole isn't for him either.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 11:32 AM) Yes, and not only did Konerko/Rios not drive Dunn in much, they combined for 34 GIDP to eliminate him from the bases completely. As a slow guy, Dunn's style of walking and striking out a lot cuts down on those GIDP for him. So you're saying his walks set up DPs. Well, even I don't disvalue his walks that much.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 11:12 AM) If your argument is that his walks haven't translated to runs that's exactly who you should be blaming. Really? If Konerko is directly behind him, for Dunn to score he has to homer or hit a long double (I'm taking triple out of the equation). Shouldn't it shake down the line up? What's funny is if Dunn got back to his 2009 level in 2013, he legitimately could be a candidate for comeback player of the year 2 years in a row.