Dick Allen

There was a story about this the other day. Oak Park took them up on their offer and a few parents are all pissed off about it.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 04:49 PM) wat Swisher went to Ohio State, so it makes some sense. He also had messages from Matta and Meyer, so it's probably not as pathetic as when Jerry Krause greeted free agents at O'Hare with Benny the Bull, the Lovabulls and a hug.

QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 03:13 PM) Yeah he would, cuz they wouldn't have re-signed Konerko if they had Adrian Gonzalez. That's not the point anyway...the point was that no player can be ACCURATELY judged based on his first year as a starter. Mike Trout is obviously not a REAL leadoff hitter. Thanks for the knowledge.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 02:15 PM) The White Sox won't be a beneficiary of any new local TV money for a long time, their contract runs through 2019 (although the team ownership group is also a part owner of CSN, so the owners will pocket a fairly large sum). They will be in the game for the extra national TV contract revenue, but then so will every team. It actually behooves the White Sox always remain competitive because they are part owners of their station. The White Sox are actually hurt by the Blackhawks not playing, and DRose being out, as studies have shown when the teams are playing well, not only does that increase the ratings and the cost to advertise their games, but that also spills over to the station's other programming. And the additional $25 million a year beginning in 2014 will increase payrolls around the league, including the White Sox.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 12:58 PM) The great case to stay away from him that you didn't note is his contract. True but it isn't THAT crazy of a contract considering what others are being paid, and new TV money is coming. But you would have to wonder why the Dodgers would trade him.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 12:46 PM) Indications are that he isn't being shopped, but teams are asking about him. Yeah it's a longshot, but he wanted some sort of rumor, so why not?

QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 12:40 PM) As I said a couple of weeks ago, he's the guy I want. He kills right handed pitching, and he's not a one dimensional player. He gives you high average and OBP, plays good defense, and most importantly, he is that left handed bat that could be the number 3 hitter. I just can't accept Dunn in that spot. As it stands now, the 6, 7, 8 and 9 hitters are all coming of a season in which they had a sub .300 OBP vs. RHP. That is not going to cut it, and Dunn's .211 average in the middle of the order, even against RHP, doesn't help, despite all of the homers. The line up actually looks pretty good against lefties, but that is over shadowed by the lower half of the line up vs. righties, which is what you face most of the time. I wonder how much better Ethier's home run production would be at the Cell. That's all part of the positive/negative with him. He doesn't hit lefthanders at all. His defense really isn't that good, although it has improved some, and Dodgers Stadium is a pitcher's park but his career splits are far better at home than on the road. You could really make a great case to trade for him and make a great case to stay away.

Even if Gonzalez was offered for Beckham, which seems rather unlikely, Gonzalez wouldn't be a White Sox anymore anyway. He makes over $20 million a year.

QUOTE (YASNY @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 12:22 PM) Schueler sucked. Period. He actually was pretty good until he got ultra conservative after the strike. He was really aggressive his first few years.

QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 12:10 PM) All I want for Christmas is a good juicy trade rumor. I don't care if it is real or not. Anything plausible that has a uncertain source like Gavin's cousin's husband or Rich Hahn's cable guy. Anything for Soxtalk to discuss and start thinking about even if we all know it only has a small chance of happening. I miss KW already. Something big was always possible at any time with KW so the Sox could always be the mystery team in all of the rumors. Besides, this would be a good time to notice my sig. Andre Ethier is supposedly available. The problem with him is for every positive there is a negative, although he probably would be pretty productive for a few years.

QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 10:39 AM) Bourn has been a full time starter since 2007, whereas DeAza has been a full time starter since 2012. Thus, it's easier (more logical) to predict Bourn's future numbers than it is to predict DeAza's since you have a larger "sample size" with which to use. De Aza was good with the Sox for a short stint in 2011. What is the cutoff for becoming REAL?

QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 10:24 AM) I didn't mean to be condescending or disrespectful. I was trying to make the point that NOBODY can predict what a player will do in the future, especially one with such as small "sample size" like DeAza. I apologize if I offended anyone, and will be more careful in the future. Wasn't that exactly what you were doing when you called Bourn a REAL lead off hitter, and implying De Aza was not?

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 09:04 AM) Which is exactly why I picked Buehrle. Dude has thrown over 200+ innings for 12 straight seasons now, every full season he has been in the league. But at some point, that will have to end. I would think he will throw 200 innings, but you never know what may happen. Remember in Spring Training 2005 when he supposedly broke his foot?

QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 03:25 PM) He did that ONE TIME! Beckham had a damn good rookie season too, look at him now. Nice argument.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 02:50 PM) People consider accidents with guns all the time. That's why you practice gun safety. You act as though people with guns are irresponsible or something, like anyone with a gun eventually shoots someone by accident. No, but the problem is an accident usually isn't a real small problem. I bet average a law abiding gun owning citizen shoots someone or themselves by accident more often than they shoot someone invading their home. I would also bet far more people have been killed by people shooting guns that were purchased to "protect" homes and family, who were absolutely no threat to someone's home or family.

QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 01:59 PM) Assuming that AJ isn't coming back, the Sox should go hard after Michael Bourn. He would give the Sox a REAL lead off hitter, a left handed bat, 30-40 stolen bases, gold glove defense, etc., and he's only 28! He'd also give us the flexibilty to trade one of our OFs, maybe for a REAL 3B or a REAL C and/or some bullpen help. Well, the FAKE lead off hitter the Sox currently happen to be employing, actually is younger than Bourn, slugged better than Bourn and got on base the same amount as Bourn and is about $15 million a year cheaper. He also bats left handed.

If the Bears win their next 2 they most likely will be in the playoffs.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 04:27 PM) Philadelphia's offensive line is terrible and they're in the top 10 in offense this year. No offense line is j'Marcus Webb at LT terrible.

The Bears can bring in anyone they want to coach. If they don't do something about the offensive line and rhe aging defense, they won't win more games.

Each one of those teachers, who probably made peanuts, but took bullets for those kids are far bigger heroes than anyone who plays a game for a living.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Dec 15, 2012 -> 01:02 PM) I was a victim in Lincoln Park. Got roughed up a little bit and had to give up my bag to get away (luckily escaped with my wallet). I'm hardly alone, the officers I talked to about it say they've been really busy with those kinds of attacks in their precinct. For one, if you're in the midst of a home invasion you have absolutely no time to try and analyze the situation. They could be in there just looking for s*** to steal but if you startle them or get a good look at them there's no guarantee they wont severely harm you. People deserve every right in the world to defend their property and their family when they are being targeted in their home. At the very least the presence of firearms within the home serves as a deterrent to burglary and the violence that can easily ensue if a homeowner confronts burglars. And the point I was really trying to make is that gun control enthusiasts absolutely love to point out statistics about Japan, Europe, China... whatever other country they can with tight gun control and low firearm deaths. But when it comes to looking at the same statistics across our own country, they'll make any excuse they can about why cities who violate 2nd amendment rights also suffer from the most violent crime. Too many things can go wrong for the against all odds,chance you have armed people in your home while you are there. The guns used in this tragedy were purchased with the intent of protecting a home.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Dec 15, 2012 -> 11:15 AM) People break into homes in good neighborhoods in Chicago, nice suburbs, etc. Unless you live on a farm 40 miles from civilization, I'm not quite sure where you can be safe. How often do you read about people breaking into a non gang related home or non organized crime related home and killing a family? Usually when a family gets gunned down its one of the parents shooting them with a legally obtained weapon, many times after years and years of being a loving parent.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Dec 15, 2012 -> 10:14 AM) I agree with this. Here's the thing, if you actually need to defend yourself, you need quick access to that gun. I don't know how people can have quick access but also have it locked away so well that no one else can get to it. That is definitely the rub. I think if you really have a fear of someone armed breaking into your home, you really need to move. That would be the best way to protect your family.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 15, 2012 -> 09:49 AM) Oh give me a f***ing break. Unless you live in the worst areas of Chicago, you have the exact same worries as any other city in this country. And not only is this issue specific to certain areas, it's also highly highly-gang related, so making guns easier to attain would be by far the dumbest thing we could do. Do you live in one of these areas? I agree. You have about the same odds of winning the powerball as you do of people busting into your house with guns ablazing, especially if you're not in a gang or a member of organized crime. Out on the street in Chicago, you can get shot at any moment, but it is very rare someone needs to "protect" their home from armed intruders.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 15, 2012 -> 03:19 AM) So I own a gun in Chicago to protect my family from others that clearly have guns, am I wrong? IMO there is a far greater chance a loved one gets injured by your gun through an accident than its presence will actually protect your family. A night doesn't go by in Chicago where multiple people don't get shot, it's just very rare a home invasion winds up with people shot. It does happen obviously, but most residential burglars don't carry a gun with them. It seems to me more people get injured cleaning a gun or finding daddy's gun, than people using a gun to successfully defend their home, although some 80 year old guy did it a month or so ago.