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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 11:04 AM) Comparing Peavy to Verlander, well done. I'm not, I just said no one here says Peavy is an ace considering the surgery he had. Verlander is considered an ace, but the things pointed out that supposedly prove Peavy was never an ace seems very similar to things that could be pointed out about Verlander. So 3 runs tonight, JVINAA.

Let's preface this by saying, I don't think anyone here claims post surgery, Jake Peavy is an ace, but considering his recent starts and his career 5.57 post season ERA, if Justin Verlander gives up 3 runs tonight, its obvious using Soxtalk standards, JVINNA.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 07:37 AM) BP and doing it in game conditions against a guy with pinpoint command in Fister are two quite different things. All the hitters lay down 3-5 bunts typically at the beginning of BP. Not even sure if YOUK has been doing that or not. Plus he had a three day layoff over the weekend and has been a hurt a lot, it's highly doubtful he's taking extra bunting practice. Keep in mind a few White Sox pitchers who never bunt or even hit, successfully laid down bunts this season and past seasons. Its really not that difficult. I disagree with having him bunt, but to think he's incapable because he doesn't have sac bunts in his past is wrong. Considering the pitch he struck out on, it doesn't appear Youk had much of a chance if he was hitting away anyway. Also it was against Benoit not Fister. Also when Jim Thome was with the Sox and they had the shift on for him, I remember many complaints "why doesn't Thome bunt" to foil the shift. Funny how many of those same people change their tunes. It didn't matter anyway. Youkilis was destined to fan.

Youkilis is batting second. Moving runners is part of his job. How does everyone know he hasn't been working on bunting in BP?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 05:04 PM) Not necessarily. He's changed his eye position by squaring around from where he's used to seeing the ball to a different spot. Especially in the case of a guy who is very used to seeing a pitch from a certain, and let's say "Unique" perspective, changing the eye location will have a big impact on whether or not he thinks its a strike. Whether it's a pitch he thought he wanted to bunt at and whether it was a pitch he'd have taken/swung at normally are 2 different things. That pitch was middle in, just below the waist, which actually happens to be in one of Youk's hot zones if you believe Yahoo. Heck, if the pitcher thoguht he was swinging, he probably wouldn't have thrown that pitch. Guys not used to bunting usually expand their strikezones to get a bunt down. You can say he would have swung at it and hit a home run, I think its more likely he would have taken it for strike 2. While I disagree with Ventura having him bunt, its not like Youkilis is on a roll or anything. The pitch was borderline anyway, one Stone said could have been called either way. Chances are with the way he's been going if he swung at it, he wouldn't have hit it fair and if he did, not very hard. Youk was 3 for his last 33 coming into that AB.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 04:57 PM) He had a bunt on for strike two... Yes and he pulled away thinking it was a ball. If he were swinging, he would have taken the pitch for strike 2.

While having him bunt is most likely a mistake and a nice topic for a radio talk show to attract callers who love to complain about everything, Youkilis attempting to bunt made zero difference. He never swings at the first pitch anyway, check any scouting report, so even if he was swinging away, he would have taken it for a strike, that was strike 1. The next pitch he took for a strike which he didn't think was a strike, that's strike 2 and he swung at a ball 3 feet out of the strikezone for strike 3.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 11:32 AM) The biggest surprise from this ACC move: The U is a top 50 academic school Can't you tell by listening to Devin Hester?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 22, 2012 -> 01:55 PM) I understand the particulars of the situation and can't blame him, but there is one thing that bothered me. Thinking back to everything that Mark ever said or other people said about him, chasing the money from a mediocre team who is a 50/50 bet to trade you doesn't sound like him at all. it was always about the baseball, about his family, about being comfortable, and this decision was the complete opposite. He doesn't owe Sox fans a damn thing, just like the fans don't owe him, but I just thought it was very surprising and a bit hypocritical. He stated he was willing to play for the Sox for less. They did not make him any offer. To think it's hypocritical is confusing to me because there was nothing he turned down. They told him to leave. Also, rewinding 9 months, the bad team was supposed to be the Sox, the contender, Miami. It didn't quite work out that way. Even if Buerhle left for the money, no one should blame him. He didn't. He went where they offered him a job. Sure the Sox would have taken him back at some price point, but he was told to take Miami's money and never given an offer. If the choice is $58 million for 4 years to pitch in Miami vs. nothing, I believe everyone on this board would take the $58 million.

It doesn't look like Cooper can fix Liriano. Liriano loses money each time he steps on the mound. Its amazing how dominant he can be at times, and how AA he looks a lot of the other time.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 10:04 AM) Here's the Rays schedule... http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/rays/content..._medium=twitter 6 of their 19 off days are in August. WTF? Including the All Star break, 11 days off in the month and a half between the middle of July and end of August. They should be properly rested for the stretch run.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 09:14 AM) MLB releases the schedule at noon (ct) today. They're going back to 19 division games, so it could be 10 games at Comerica next year. I seriously hate 76 division games. Especially since the Sox can't seem to beat them. If they don't have players that can beat these teams, then they have to change the players. Sept. 12th. First place 2 game lead. I'll take it every year.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 09:26 PM) Was he really suggested to the Sox by Stone? I had no idea... Yes. He knew Veal from his Cubs days.

Unless the bases were already loaded, I don't think the Sox were going to pitch to Cabrera anyway.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 09:20 PM) Veal was a helluva find by this scouting department. Steve Stone

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 09:19 PM) He's stellar for what he gets paid. You know, that has quite an impact on one's value. Quit being intentionally dense. Is this how you deal with your Sox frustration -- by trying to pick fights with other posters over nothing? I'm not picking fights, I'm just pointing out your inconsistencies. Its funny you rate performance not on the performance but on the paycheck. Imagine how pissed you'd be at Prince Fielder right now. He just got owned by a guy making minimum.

QUOTE (Noonskadoodle @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 09:16 PM) I disagree.....You have a guy like Fielder who is a great hitter. I dont care the lefty you throw at him he is still capable to do A LOT of damage. CMON VEAL!!! I probably would have let Dirks hit, but you're right, this situation is why Prince is getting the big bucks.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 09:15 PM) Fister doesn't make 20 million, and he's Detroit's number 4 starter. For better or worse, more is expected of Peavy, and deservedly so. You just posted how stellar he's been. Andy the Clown is quite appropriate.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 09:04 PM) Does anyone else resent that Fister has turned into such a stellar pitcher since the Tigers acquired him last year? He was a number 5 type in Seattle, then boom! Different guy. How much different is his performance tonight vs. Peavy's? Seems to be its one seeing eye single before the Jackson homer. Could you imagine the s*** Peavy would get if he gave up homers to the equivalents of Wise and Beckham on any team?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 09:02 PM) Like you do, whatever. None of your financial conspiracies have ever been validated, NOT EVEN ONCE. You support Beckham but are all over Viciedo, just like Marty34. Once again, whatever you say. When have I been all over Viciedo? Never. And my financial conspiracy was validated. The only time I complained about the payroll was 2009 when they lowered the payroll but increased ticket prices when they had season ticketholders unused playoff ticket money hostage. They wound up adding Peavy and Rios. So they did have money to play with.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 09:01 PM) It's hard for me to respect the opinion of anyone who has Yoko Ono as his avatar. How dare you insult the great Geddy Lee (who will be in town on Saturday night). If I had the power, I would suspend your ass WSI-style.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 08:56 PM) Maybe if you stop complaining about White Sox financial conspiracies, because that makes everyone happy too, lol. Well you obviously don't think the Sox will score another run tonight, and you have a bunch of company. That means the slack you were giving Peavy was 1 run. He couldn't give up more for the Sox to win. Just stop with all your BS. Everyone knows you have no idea what you are talking about.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 08:50 PM) Go ahead, be happy with the pitcher we've been overpaying for 3 of the last 4 seasons if it really makes YOU happy. It's obvious, the Tigers are 1-9 in their last 10 games, not including the sweep. You breathe ANY life back into them...well, you just don't want to do that, do you? Would you rather the two teams be tied with 19 games to go just to make it more exciting? Do you want to bet $1000 on Gavin Floyd against Scherzer tomorrow? You aren't a history buff are you? The Sox breathed some life in them twice recently, both times they went into a skid. I don't like Gavin Floyd, never have, never will, so I won't bet $1000, but I will bet you $1000 the Sox make the playoffs.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 08:47 PM) Is there any particular reason to be excited about Gavin Floyd against one of the hottest pitchers in the game? No reason to be excited about anything White Sox. So, they are in first place in the middle of September. They suck. The players suck, the manager sucks, the announcers suck. The geniuses are on this board telling you exactly what should have been. They were waiting for Peavy to give up some runs just so they could pop of all the choke garbage, just like they were waiting for AJ to have a positive test to blast him. I really don't know why a lot of Sox fans choose to be miserable during a surprise season with the team in first place.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 08:41 PM) Jesus. Did I say we lost? I just said we let them back into this game and series. That's it. The White Sox bullpen needs to show up and beat the Tigers, simple. Not only did you suggest this game is over, you really questioned tomorrow night, and basically suggested the Sox forfeit on Thursday as Verlander will be pitching the game of his life. So considering he's a Cy Young and MVP, that means the Sox really have no shot at that game. You should give up baseball and find a new hobby. There has to be something that makes you happy.