Dick Allen

QUOTE (ptatc @ May 3, 2011 -> 08:43 PM) It was during warm ups before the game when there weren't many people around. There were alot of team personnel around.The trainer did double over. I know the guy he wouldn't lie about it. The Giants didn't cut him after trading 4 prospects for him because they really thought he was a valuable asset. They guy who wrote the story didn't write in until AJ was released, and there has never been confirmation from another player. If AJ was as hated as you claim, that would have come out a lot sooner, and there would have been at least 24 other players, plus coaches plus trainers telling everyone they could about it.

I think they should have a Ligue Appreciation Night. No shirt or at least 25 percent of your body covered in tats gets you a $1 ticket. They could even have a beat up a coach competition. It looks like Greg Walker would probably be getting pummeled.

QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ May 3, 2011 -> 10:34 PM) So you're suggesting we bring back the Boomer? He'd shake things up. I think the hamster is spinning the wheel overtime in JRs head right now. He hates losing money and even just another week or so of this kind of play may guarantee him a loss this season. I think the perception that the organization is playing this calmly and expects everything to be fine, isn't the reality. I think there are a lot of nervous and scared non uniform and uniform employees of the White Sox. The hammer is going to come down soon if this doesn't turn around. KW is the most resposible, but I would imagine he's safe and he'll have the opportunity to cover his ass by making a sacrificial lamb out of someone.

Gene Lamont led the White Sox to an AL West crown in 1993. In 1994 he had the White Sox in first place in the newly formed AL Central when the strike hit. JR still talks about how that team would have won the World Series. In 1995. when the Sox gave away Jack McDowell, and had a done John Kruk and Chris Sabo DHing, Lamont was fired after 31 games with the Sox sporting an 11-20 record, and was replaced by Terry Bevington. The Sox current record is 11-20.

Jackson looked good tonight, and Thornton hit 99 on the USCF gun. Wasted performances. Personally, I don't blame the hitting coach, but if this continues he's probably the cheapest lamb he's going to go.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 3, 2011 -> 10:03 PM) My prediction is Walker goes sometime in May, Ozzie leaves for Florida at end of year, and KW becomes VP with Hahn taking over during offseason. I've never understood the kicking KW upstairs part. Either the Sox are happy with him as the GM, or he needs to go. Having him around meddling with his successor makes zero sense.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 3, 2011 -> 06:14 PM) I think they did this with Gary Ward. He was relieved of his duties as hitting coach (and Greg Walker was hired), and within a year or two he was the hitting coach at Charlotte. I'm not saying I agree or disagree, just that (if I am remembering correctly), there is precedent for such a move. No one has to worry. If Greg Walker isn't the hitting coach for the White Sox, he's going home to Georgia.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ May 3, 2011 -> 04:41 PM) I have a feeling that "story" is the only reason why you feel the way you do about AJ. And from what I understand, that alleged incident may not have even happened. You're right, it didn't happen at least not the way it was reported. It was reported AJ took a shot to the nuts, the trainer came rushing out to see how he was and AJ kneed him. Wouldn't there have been a ton of witnesses? If he really kneed him wouldn't the trainer have gone to the ground?

QUOTE (ptatc @ May 3, 2011 -> 10:03 AM) It isn't crap. AJ is a classic jerk and bully. Nobody likes him. They tolerate him because of how he can help a pitching staff. MB may repsect him, I don't know for sure, he tends to try to get evrone to play niceand is usually postive but I guarantee he doesn't like him. Nobody likes him? I saw him out one night with Jermaine Dye and David Ortiz. Why are they hanging out with him if they don't like him?

Michael Jordan was despised by his teammates. That really didn't play out on talk radio. Whether the AJP stuff is true or not, and I tend to doubt that it is, the only reason they are talking about it now is they are kicking a team when they are down.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 2, 2011 -> 06:40 PM) THANK YOU! While I still think it's too early to pack it in, I loved reading every word of that article. If it were Minnesota or Detroit they were 10 games behind, I may consider it a lost cause, but its Cleveland and KC. I just cannot believe they can't make 10 games up on them, and they are 2.5 behind Detroit. That's one series.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ May 2, 2011 -> 06:29 PM) White Sox season is over He wants a fire sale. I get a kick out of Rosenbloom, but you can't say everyone sucks so the Sox can trade them for useful players. Buehrle and Ohman for Rasmus? Right there that tells you how tuned in he is.

QUOTE (soxfan72 @ May 1, 2011 -> 09:18 PM) I only disagree on a few points. Don Cooper stays. Harold Baines stays. Cox stays. KW and the rest have to go. Hope for Change in 2011. Why does Cooper stay? The White Sox have given up more runs than every other AL team. Cooper went out to talk to Floyd today with the bases loaded, the next pitch, all the runners scored. Maybe he told him the Sox were all in this year, and he thought let all the runners in. There are a lot more pitchers that struggled with the Sox while being coached by Cooper who went on and were productive elsewhere, than hitters coached by Walker having success elsewhere after they had left. Its not just Soxtalk where Walker couldn't possibly a bigger idiot and Cooper is some sort of pitching coach God. Its everywhere, but if you really look closely the results suggest Walker has done more with less, if you base the entire success or failure on a hitting or pitching coach. People blame the streakiness on Walker, but that's how a lot of players, most players really, go. Although I did see a stat on the board for Mark Teahen on Friday. He has either hit 10 or 11 homers total in April, May, June, July , August and September,in his career. Not too many are like that. Could you imagine if the Sox traded Brian Anderson in 2006 and he hit like Daniel Hudson pitched for AZ in 2010? People wouldn't blame KW, it would be all be on Walker. No one ever mentions Cooper when Hudson's ERA dropped 4 or 5 runs. In all honesty I don't think Cooper should be fired, or Walker for that matter. I would just like the people who blame Walker for every bad ball the Sox swing at also blame Cooper for some of the crap the pitchers throw up there. It never happens. Be consistent. If Chris Sale gives up a homer, if its not Cooper's fault, don't blame Walker when Alex Rios grounds out weakly to SS.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 1, 2011 -> 08:23 PM) The team is hitting like .240 with an era of about 4.50 IIRC. 10th in the AL in batting average, 9th in runs scored, 12th in ERA and dead last in runs allowed. You can't blame Peavy's injury. His replacement has been nails. If Walker is so terrible, Don Cooper isn't exactly the pitching guru he's made out to be. The Sox will be awful if they allow more runs than all the other teams. If hitters swinging at bad pitches is the hitting coach's fault, then pitchers making bad pitches shoud be the pitching coach's fault.

QUOTE (Tex @ May 1, 2011 -> 07:46 PM) That's a very good point, but you can't ignore one problem because you have another. The team can work on more than one problem at a time. I just don't understand the constant pounding Walker takes not only here but just about everywhere and most years, including this one, the White Sox hitters are ranked higher than the White Sox pitchers even though on average, a lot more money is spent on the pitchers. Cooper gets no crap at all, in fact, just the opposite.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 1, 2011 -> 04:42 PM) I'm glad that people are finally getting this, but why has it taken so long? Honestly, people have been saying this same thing for years in regards to Walker. Is six years after a World Series title the exact cutoff point to be OK with firing somebody if only to make a statement? In the last 4 games the Sox would have had to have scored at least 13,11,7 and 7 to win. You can blame the hitting coach all you want, but firing Greg Walker isn't going to make the Sox record better.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 1, 2011 -> 03:48 PM) 22k today???? MERCY Disaster is upon us. I wonder last time they had that low of attendance on a weekend day with nice weather. Its about 15k more than they deserve.

QUOTE (bobryansson @ May 1, 2011 -> 03:43 PM) This is not Ozzie's fault. You're right. Losing is never Ozzie's fault. Winning is all because of Ozzie. If he gets canned he can go on tour with Charlie Sheen.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 1, 2011 -> 03:41 PM) I also love how Hawk said Rios crushed his homer last night...when it made it out by about 15 feet down the line. That was absolutely the perfect spot to use Dunn, as it's very unlikely you get another chance to tie it. Buck Showalter always makes Ozzie look like a little b**** though. Never mind it was a solo homer in the 9th in a 6-1 game. They weren't exactly trying to paint corners.

QUOTE (robinventura23 @ May 1, 2011 -> 03:38 PM) Wow, you actually want Dunn to bat? Wieters could use a fanning off I guess. Its a better option than Rios. The Sox are playing poorly as it is. Not to put your biggest guns out there when you have a shot at a tie or making the game much closer is silly. Teahen was a better option than Rios if Ozzie thinks Dunn needs a rest from playing in the field last night.

How about a pinch hitter next time Rios comes up with runners on and the Sox desperate for runs? How I wish KW got rid of him when he could.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 1, 2011 -> 02:44 PM) Is that true? Not really. Someone did a study of the ERA's from each spot and at least in 2006 the #4 spot was 5.10 but that included every game so injuries and rest and September call ups are added, so its not a #4 guy who lasts the entire season its a #4 guy that also includes starts from a #6-#15 or so guy from which the numbers are taken. If you took the regular #4 guys and just averaged out their ERA's they would be a little lower.

QUOTE (Chisoxrd5 @ May 1, 2011 -> 02:35 PM) He's just dogging it out there, he's better than that. Embarrassing. It does appear his effort is less than stellar which was the exact knock against him in Toronto. Maybe its his toe injury, or maybe its the fact that he is very graceful and those guys look like they give less effort than they do, but hopefully he didn't think he shut up his critics with his first half last year, because he's been awful ever since.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 1, 2011 -> 02:31 PM) At this point, it's pretty clear that Gavin Floyd is never going to be better than a 4th starter with occasional flashes of brilliance. Still has a lot of trade value though. For his career, his ERA in April and May is about 6.00, so this shouldn't be a surprise. He'll be Cy Young in June and most of July.

Hey look, all the runners are in. They are all in.