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QUOTE (daggins @ Apr 18, 2011 -> 07:18 PM) yeah not sure how many times a team can pull a 25-5 run out of their butts. I'm guessing somewhere around 1. The good news is the teams playing well right now are Cleveland and KC. Its very doubtful that can continue. They won't need a 25-5 run if they get their act together fairly soon.

When are the Sox going to properly rename the home white and road gray uniforms the alternates? And considering Hawk always says he never watches the NL how is Maddux the best he's seen at so many things?

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 04:37 PM) Well when you see other young players come up and seemingly produce right away it makes Gordon's inconsistencies stand out a little more. Andrew McCutchen came up right around the same time as Beckham and he's already probably one of the top 20 all-around players in baseball. Isn't Car Go one of your favorites? He didn't exactly start out on fire. Beckham has produced. He produced as a rookie and had a nice 2nd half last year. He also was on fire this year until about a week ago.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 04:17 PM) Well it doesn't help that a young SS on the other side of town is tearing the cover off the ball. What does that have to do with it? And how would he fare against Haren and Weaver?

QUOTE (Wanne @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 04:16 PM) What's your timeline DA? I actually tend to agree with his train of thought. I gave you a timeline. If he went 4-4 today all the naysayers would want to suck him off. I just wonder how many people on this board actually played baseball, because if you did, even at low levels, you would understand the ups and downs of a baseball season and not get so carried away with a tough game or a tough week. The disgust getting swept by the Angels is laughable. They had 2 of the hottest pitchers in baseball throwing. The last time the Angels swept the Sox in Chicago was 2005. People were contemplating slitting their wrists then as well, then 2 months later, everyone is the greatest ever.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 04:03 PM) I never thought Beckham was going to be a superstar, but it is beginning to appear that he isn't going to live up to the hype he was given. Probably wind up being an average to slightly better than average second baseman. A bad week and this crap? Beckham will be a star. Just remember when he is, and it may even be this season, a bad week made you think he would be slightly above average.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 03:53 PM) Yes it would have. Rios had a huge lead and would have been off with the pitch. How could he be off with the pitch with a runner on 3rd

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 02:25 PM) It's ironic because I always considered Thornton a great trade chip if they went into a rebuilding period. Now his value as a set-up man at for $5.5 million is pretty much just a salary dump unless he turns it around somehow....even then, only 5-7 teams, at best, would be able to afford that luxury. You have to hold on to Ramirez, Beckham, Santos and Sale...and many would argue now's the time to trade Alexei if you rebuild. I still think that new contract's favorable enough that you could go into rebuilding with the middle infield set for the next half decade. That's a good starting point. The Sox aren't going to be rebuilding any time soon.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 02:12 PM) CQ is one of the first guys I would like to see traded. Rios is the guy I would like see traded. He's had one good half for the Sox and makes a ton of money. I doubt they could get anyone to eat all the money. That's a problem.

QUOTE (since56 @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 07:51 AM) Putz and Jenks don't look so bad now. Jenks currently sports an ERA over 8.00. He'd fit right in this season.

QUOTE (YASNY @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 12:45 AM) Just call this a gut feeling, a hunch or whatever ... but if the Sox can't turn this around quickly that there will be a new manager by May 15th. They have the talent but are not playing up to their capabilities. I've always been an Ozzie supporter, but it's the manager that falls on the sword. My guess is that they'd give Cora a shot, but I think I'd prefer Buddy Bell. It will be interesting to what kind of responses I get to this post. Bring it. Cora wouldn't really be a change in philosophy. Bell quit managing because he was sick of the travel. Maybe he is interested in getting back into it, I don't know, but his track record as a manager isn't quite stellar. Of course its not all his fault he's managed rotten teams, but the teams he has managed played a little better or about the same before he came on board and after he left than when he was making out the line up card which would indicate his impact for winning's sake is minimal if anything at all. I've never been an Ozzie guy but if those two are the choices, then I say why fire him. FWIW, Oney has stated if anything ever happened to Ozzie, Cora would never take the job. I don't buy it, but you never know.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 01:53 AM) And I'm sure he'll get a quiet reprimand from Bob Grim, Director of Broadcasting. When all is said and done, no matter how frustrating things get, club employees (unless they are named Ozzie Guillen or KW) have to retain their cool under ALL circumstances. At the moment, he probably felt like venting back was a reasonable response, but he should know better. Dave Wills never would have done that. When he wakes up Sunday morning, instead of feeling victorious, I'm sure he'll wish that he had let it go. In the end, belittling a Sox fan isn't a winning move for the organization, whether it's true or not, lots of us complain when Ozzie insults the fanbase, and this is no different (although hardly on the same level as an Ozzie rant that eventually ends up as a headline at CNN). Hosting the pre and post game show is entirely different from being an O'Reilly or Beck or Limbaugh, Rachel Maddow or Olbermann. Those guys are paid for their opinions and are encouraged to express them. There are a lot worse things in baseball than being 7-7 after 14 games. God knows how people would be acting if we were playing like the Red Sox or Twins. I listened to the first 3 calls of the postgame before it got cut off at MLB audio. Yes, the same typical comments (about the price of going to a game, about Juan Pierre and one caller was especially aggravated with AJ Pierzynski for some reason), but I've heard a lot more inane/inebriated ones before, and there undoubtedly will be worse in the future. Technically, Rongey is not a White Sox employee. Wills was known for calling people drillrods. Rongey is as big of an optimist as anyone, but if the calls were anything near what I could image, and I've heard the show after losses plenty of times on my way home, he should have every right to fire back without reprimand, especially if the caller is getting personal. Ozzie fires back. JR will fire back, KW fires back at fans at Soxfest.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 16, 2011 -> 08:30 PM) Ending it with "Christ" suggests you are amazed and/or perturbed. I think a lot of us are not in panic mode, we're just kind of pissed that the team is .500 through 14 games with some horrendously long road trips coming up. As you and everybody else knows, winning six of 10 games on the road is good so until the stretch of road games is over, the Sox really are not going to have much of a record to speak of, which means a s***ty start to the season. No panic, just annoyance here. You were the one who said fans have a right to be in mild panic mode when the Sox were 7-6. Some food for thought, the Angels 8-5 start, which is exactly one game better than the 2011 White Sox at the same number of games, is their best start in 16 seasons. They have been playoff participants more often than most.

Palm Springs, LA, Chicago, Rockford and South Bend will get to see the game on Fox when it finally starts. The rest are SOL. 5:15 first pitch.

Did you get the invitation to the block party? Stacey King may be the best color man in all of sports.

The Pacers couldn't really have ask for anymore for 46 minutes and they are still going to lose. This is going to be a cakewalk.

This game is ova

Give me the hot sauce Funk. Stacey King is a classic.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 16, 2011 -> 01:32 PM) The Sox currently are one game over .500 with an easy schedule and are having a blah homestand. As far as Bobby, I don't want to go there. I do want to see our current closers actually get a save and not suck just about every time they hit the mound. Yet they are above .500. Go back to the benchmark season of 2005. How did late August early September go? You don't want to go there about Bobby for obvious reasons, but blimpie got lit up last night, so I doubt he would have been the answer. The Sox, even with some problems that probably won't be problems the entire season are still right there. Panicking before taxes are due is beyond silly. I would venture to guess there hasn't been a season in White Sox history where they didn't go 7-6 in some 13 game stretch during the season. If you are panicking now, find yourself a therapist.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 15, 2011 -> 11:39 PM) Tannerfan, the team is playing bad baseball. We have a right to be in mild panic mode. We know it's early, but we also know good and bad baseball when we see it. Chicago fans are smart fans. Yes the offense should be amazing this summer, which is a positive. Really? You were in total denial about Bobby Jenks' declining performance last year. The Sox for as how terrible they have played recently, and without Dunn for half the time and Peavy for the whole time, and dropping 5 flyballs, and having their new closer 0-4 in save opps and having their defensive specialist 3B on pace for 50 errors and the guy a lot of people thought should win a GG at SS on pace for about 40 errors, are 2 games out of first place, This team should be fine, the only thing that concerns me is the total lack of fundamentals, which if you looked at it objectively, has been a trait of Ozzie Guillen led teams more often than not. Is that Ozzie's fault? I don't know Fielding in general, throwing to the wrong base, missing cutoff men, failing to get bunts down, failing to move men over, the list goes on and on. I think KW needs to tell Ozzie to make this weekend a bunt free weekend. They were 0 for 2 yesterday. Its just a waste. Ramirez goes up to try to bunt, he has no chance getting it down, its almost like he wants to get behind in the count on purpose to increase the degree of difficulty for his AB. BTW, the Sox are currently on pace to win 87 games.

QUOTE (Felix @ Apr 15, 2011 -> 09:30 PM) OPS? Why would anyone care about that? What's his batting average now? Its very apparent you are trying to get posters to personally attack you. Hopefully the correct people will see this attempt at trying to make an ugly thread and properly take care of it.

QUOTE (Felix @ Apr 15, 2011 -> 07:44 PM) I mean, I know it's still early, but this is the type of production we're getting out of the DH spot? Sure it's better than Mark Kotsay, but that's not saying much. We simply aren't going to win with this guy getting significant at-bats. Yeah, he'll hit some dingers, but his speed and inability to put the bat on the ball is going to do more damage than good. How are we supposed to score runs with him clogging the bases and striking out with runners on? That just isn't going to do our team any good. I'll admit, I was excited when we first signed him. I thought, "Hell yeah! Another Paul Konerko!" But it's clear that Dunn is just a National League player who can't lead his team to any success. Ever wonder why he hasn't played in the playoffs? He clearly doesn't have what it takes to bring his team over the hump. I know this isn't something people want to hear right now, but the sooner we admit the truth, the better the team will be in the future. pwned

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 14, 2011 -> 08:27 AM) the guys at a god damn workplace. Do you start yelling f** at your work place? You guys all need to grow up. There's no comparing an NBA game with an average workplace. The players and coaches and referees swear all the time. $100k is nothing to Kobe, but its an NBA publicity stunt fining him.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Apr 14, 2011 -> 09:59 AM) Who did Ozzie throw under the bus yesterday? His failed relievers. He said when they win they are the heroes and sit and talk to the press, when the mess up Ozzie has to do it.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 10:15 PM) I understand that completely. I just happened to think that on these two occasions these games were pretty important to set a tone. I think Mark and Danks woulda breezed through the ninth. I'm not saying to do it all the time. I just think early games are important. I could be mistaken. Lillian I loved your theory. Somebody should do an article on that or ask Bill James his opinion. Awesome stuff. Can you send it to Bill James and ask what he thinks of it? I like your theory. Isn't Bill James a consultant for the Red Sox?